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On October 12 2010 09:08 prochobo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 08:11 Fa1nT wrote: I harbor no sympathy for people who suicide.
Remember that we are approaching 7billion people on this planet, and within a few decades, those spots won't be so free. You're fucking going to hell. Yeah, people should kill themselves just so you and I can be ever so slightly more comfortable in the future.
I can not believe he just fuckin said that.
+ Show Spoiler +god..people like those make me want to hit a baby seal in the face with a stop sign
Wtf man,
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On October 12 2010 09:05 kenwoo wrote: wow thats so stupid though.... why would he do that my life is fuking sucky as balls and sometimes i would think about killing myself but it was all joke to make me get tougher.. man everybody's life suk ppl's who suicide because they think their life is so bad is dumb because everybody life is bad and only loser kill themselves no offense just want to clear my thoughts
You don't one day just wake up and decide to kill yourself.
Don't call suicidal people weak. Nor should you call them selfish or overly dramatic. You can't possibly fathom what they are going through or their thought process. Something you don't realize is how fucking torn you must be to HONESTLY contemplate ending everything you've ever known, perceived, and done. It isn't something someone can comprehend without going through it themselves, and even then every situation is specific and different. The last thing you want to do with a suicidal person is isolate and define them. Always be willing to give people support and learn to treat others kindly, but let the psychologists/psychiatrists/hotlines do their jobs because they've been trained to do what people online can't.
This topic isn't about suicide in general, but I think the people posting here can maybe mature a little and learn that it is worth reaching out and helping people. Even if it means that for every 1,000 trolls you respond to, you get 1 legitimate person who truly needs help. Sure, everyone goes through shit in their life. You can't make comparisons. People deal with situations differently.
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On October 12 2010 09:00 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 08:50 Maynarde wrote: Definitely not "pro-suicide" Aeres. A couple of my seemingly happy friends have gone that way and it enrages me. Honestly, it's never an option there are always other ways which you've even listed yourself. Sorry for you as a sufferer of aspergers to have endured what you have but good on you for making a life for yourself. Not sorry for the chump that offed himself.
You let down yourself, your friends and your family. It's selfish, and it's such a cop out. Don't care if people disagree, that's the way it is. Hehe, there's no need to congratulate me on living a normal life, but I appreciate your sentiments. =D However. (slightly off-topic) + Show Spoiler +GOD MOTHERFUCKING DAMN, I haaaate it when people misuse the phrase "cop-out". They always assume it to mean it's an excuse or stupid reason for doing something. It doesn't mean that, it never has. A "cop-out" is an admission of guilt for some charge, in exchange for better treatment. For example, if a guy murders someone, and at the trial says "I killed him because he was an asshole", that's an excuse. If he says "Yes, I killed this man" in the hopes of a lighter sentence, that is a cop-out. The ambiguity between the phrases "excuse" and "cop-out" arises when an excuse contains some amount of self-incrminating truth. Sorry for the lecture. = /
Sorry for the misuse, it's Aussie slang I guess. A lot of people use it just in place of "weak" or "lazy" etc.
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Very disturbing and I can't sleep now because all I can do is think about it .. I have class in 6 hours..
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On October 12 2010 09:16 SCC-Faust wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 09:05 kenwoo wrote: wow thats so stupid though.... why would he do that my life is fuking sucky as balls and sometimes i would think about killing myself but it was all joke to make me get tougher.. man everybody's life suk ppl's who suicide because they think their life is so bad is dumb because everybody life is bad and only loser kill themselves no offense just want to clear my thoughts You don't one day just wake up and decide to kill yourself. Don't call suicidal people weak. Nor should you call them selfish or overly dramatic. You can't possibly fathom what they are going through or their thought process. Something you don't realize is how fucking torn you must be to HONESTLY contemplate ending everything you've ever known, perceived, and done. It isn't something someone can comprehend without going through it themselves, and even then every situation is specific and different. The last thing you want to do with a suicidal person is isolate and define them. Always be willing to give people support and learn to treat others kindly, but let the psychologists/psychiatrists/hotlines do their jobs because they've been trained to do what people online can't. This topic isn't about suicide in general, but I think the people posting here can maybe mature a little and learn that it is worth reaching out and helping people. Even if it means that for every 1,000 trolls you respond to, you get 1 legitimate person who truly needs help. Sure, everyone goes through shit in their life. You can't make comparisons. People deal with situations differently.
Of course, I totally agree that people sometimes truly need help. Certainly doesn't help when you get egged on like that guy in the Swedish thread was. I guess we'll just have to wonder whether he tried to get help or not before he did the deed ... Or just leave this sad story alone and think about lighter hearted topics.
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I've seen some horrible things on the internet, he really wanted to hang himself the poor lad. He wasn't suspended too high for his feet to reach the floor so that he didn't have a choice after 'jumping' - he had to fight to do it. If you know what I mean.
I feel sorry for the poor guy, he was obviously in a bad place.
BUT, he had a nice apartment by the looks of it, he said himself in the thread that he had a nice upbringing and a nice life living off government benefits. Walk a day in my shoes, infact fuck that walk a day in the other 3 billion people out there who have it worse than all of us you ungrateful fucker. He was also like 'hehe' and ':p' in the thread ? Maybe I'm getting too old to get young people. His poor family.
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Thats horrible, I hope it wasnt real :-(
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On October 12 2010 09:25 Sanguinarius wrote: Thats horrible, I hope it wasnt real :-(
Sadly it is real. Swedish news sites have written about it..
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I Chatted with him before he did hang himself and i tried to commit him to stay alive but he did it :p
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On October 12 2010 09:25 Sanguinarius wrote: Thats horrible, I hope it wasnt real :-(
It was real boy it was real
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Don't call suicidal people weak. Nor should you call them selfish or overly dramatic.
Someone who kills themselves in their own house with nobody around is one thing. However, you cannot tell me that someone killing themselves by advertising it beforehand and hanging themselves on a live webcast to anyone who would want to watch isn't being dramatic. That's pretty much the definition of drama.
Such a person isn't interested in killing themselves. They aren't just ending their own life. No, they want to actively hurt the world they leave behind.
That's not me being "unkind" to him; that's an objective assessment of what he has done. He specifically did not want to die alone; he wanted to hurt everyone who saw him. He wanted to make a point of his death.
Subjectively, that is a foul thing to want to do to others. It's bad enough that his parents just lost a child, and any relations he had just lost a relative. No, he wants to make it as painful as possible for them, and some random strangers on the internet.
A mind that wants to do this is not in a healthy place. And I feel sorry for him, that his mind was in that place. That doesn't mean that I can't also say that this was a horrible thing for him to do, and it shows that simply ending his life was not his goal.
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On October 12 2010 09:24 Gridlock wrote: I've seen some horrible things on the internet, he really wanted to hang himself the poor lad. He wasn't suspended too high for his feet to reach the floor so that he didn't have a choice after 'jumping' - he had to fight to do it. If you know what I mean.
I feel sorry for the poor guy, he was obviously in a bad place.
BUT, he had a nice apartment by the looks of it, he said himself in the thread that he had a nice upbringing and a nice life living off government benefits. Walk a day in my shoes, infact fuck that walk a day in the other 3 billion people out there who have it worse than all of us you ungrateful fucker. He was also like 'hehe' and ':p' in the thread ? Maybe I'm getting too old to get young people. His poor family. Very freaky thread indeed most people responded like "yeah go hang yourself" and encouraged him to do it since they obviously thought he was lying but a few number of people told him to stop and dont do it...
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these things happen all over the world, only this time it got your attention. doesn't make it more sad then a person that actually died, while nobody noticed.
this guy finally managed to get all the attention he wanted... to bad it costed his life 
I am sorry for all the people that have to live like this. Life's a bitch
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On October 12 2010 09:26 MagisterMan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 09:25 Sanguinarius wrote: Thats horrible, I hope it wasnt real :-( Sadly it is real. Swedish news sites have written about it..
sorry to go of topic on this. What you said makes no sense at all!??!!?
because the Swedish news sites write about it, it is real? LOLOLOL, beware what you believe, Dutch media site geenstijl.nl already fucking around with fake news, and trust me. Actual highly respected news sources thought it was real. But it was just to point out how unreal they are...
sorry for off topic read the post above this one
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Condolences to his parents, hope he's having fun wherever he is.
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I dont really get why people feel sorry for his relatives. They did obviously not see the warning singns that most likely were around. They did not help him or cared enough to stop him in time. Also if he had loved them or cared for them he would not have done it. So in his mind I guess they got what they deserved. Suicide is not cowardly or selfish, I'm sure he tried and failed numerous times to fix his situation. It takes a huge amount of guts to kill yourself, it's nothing you do on impulse. And for him using smileys ect, apparently it's common for suicidial people to be happy before they take their own life, for obvious reasons. Their suffering is about to end.
Sad that it had to come to this but one can only hope that his actions puts a spotlight on people with autism and maybe get them the help they deserve. Hopefully that might save a few lives down the road.
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I don't understand suicide. You're going to die anyway, might as well enjoy your 80 years or whatever.
FFS, go see a stand-up comedian.
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On October 12 2010 08:11 Dali. wrote: Yea it was real. There were a couple threads @ you know where.
I don't feel terribly disturbed by it. The man was evidently not enjoying life and didn't see a way out. He took his life to release himself from his problems, he understood the consequences, it wasn't a tragic accident. In a strange way, having on lookers may have eased his mind, he was getting attention (albeit for the wrong reasons), something which he may have never have had before.
Sorry if this comes off as cruel or offensive, its just my take on things. IMO it is worse for a young man enjoying life to lose his life in circumstances outside of his control rather than an unhappy one making a conscious decision to end his. You can't look at this problem like a normal problem. "The guy is not enjoying his life, reasonable answer: suicide". He prob wouldent even have done it if it wasent for the audience. He even said in the thread "i'm wating for some more people before i get started". There's a big difference between thinking about doing it and actually doing it, and in this case its like the thought became an obligation once the thread was created and the people started pushing him. Not doing it after all those comments might have been to hard for this guy to handle. What im saying is that we cannot be sure his suicidal thoughts was strong enought for this kind of action, which is incredibly sad
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In high school I had a friend who ended up committing suicide. He wasn't exactly the most "normal" of people (whatever the hell that means anyway), but he wasn't a social outcast, emo, drug addict, or anything like that. He showed practically no warning signs, but after his suicide, his family learned that he kept many dark secrets from them. As it turns out, he was a heavily troubled young man, a cutter, and in his final days, he kept a journal with some seriously disturbing writing. I think he knew his time was coming.
16 fucking years old. He probably could have gotten help and this all could have been prevented if he talked to somebody about how he was feeling. Unfortunately for him, society discourages "weak" behavior in males, and suicidal thoughts are most certainly considered weak behavior. You don't even need to look any farther than this thread to see just how stupid people can be when it comes to talking about suicide. That is precisely the reason why he did not reach out, why he did not talk to me about it, and why his loving parents didn't take him to a counselor.
I'll say this now: every single one of you is capable of killing yourself. It doesn't take some special kind of disorder, excessive sensitivity, or selfishness. It can happen to anybody when they're backed into a corner and feel that they have no way out.
This is yet another tragedy, and trying to explain it in other words is idiotic.
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