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On October 13 2010 04:03 SilverLeagueElite wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 07:46 Mrwl wrote:
For those of you who doesn't know what Flashback forum is (pretty much every non-Swede I would assume) it's a forum with some kind of sweet extreme freedom-of-speech and anonymity. Nothing is too ballsy for Flashback, it seems.
Sounds a lot like 4chan - nothing is sacred. If this event had happened on 4chan, I've no doubt someone would make a meme out of this.
4Chan is actually nicer than FB... Flashback as Ive stated before actually houses some of Swedens most dangerous and fucked up people who are actually proud of what they do.
There´s this thing called the "Anti-Afa-register" (Anti-Antifa-register) that nazis have in Sweden. They look people they dont like up and post their adresses and everything there. A lot of the info on there is actually gathered through Flashback by some Flashbackians. And yes, I am actually in that list of people they have signed. I gotta say: Having the whole Neo Nazi-movement i Sweden being able to see all the information about me sure isnt all that fun and I know that a lot of their shit actually comes from Flashback.
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Does fucked up shit actually happen on 4chan? I'm not a regular there but from what I've seen they just talk about it. Still pretty cold, but I haven't seen anything truly disturbing.
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On October 13 2010 05:38 Redmark wrote:
Does fucked up shit actually happen on 4chan? I'm not a regular there but from what I've seen they just talk about it. Still pretty cold, but I haven't seen anything truly disturbing.
They mostly DDoS websites and chase after people who are cruel to animals now a days.
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people die everyday, get over it
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Its apparent he just needed attention and care. Looking for attention in the wrong place 
R.I.P
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 13 2010 05:23 KvltMan wrote:Sorry for the double-post, but Marcus' (as his name was) mother has written a short (34 pdf-pages) summary of her life for a swedish website called http://www.livshistorier.se. The parts concerning Marcus are a bit disturbing, he couldn't speak properly until he was three years old, and hardly played or talked to his siblings. " Först vid 18 års ålder får Marcus sin diagnos: högfungerande autism.
Att diagnosen inte ställdes tidigare anser Anna till största delen har att göra med
den nära kommunikation hon redan under graviditeten upplevde med Marcus.
Hon har alltid funnits där kring honom och sett till att han fått sina behov
tillgodosedda utan att han egentligen behövt uttala dem. När andra har missförstått
Marcus har han alltid kunnat söka och få förståelse hos sin mamma. Hon har, som
hon säger, ”bäddat runt honom”." It wasn't until he was eighteen Marcus received his diagnosis: highly-functioning autism.
Anna thinks that they never considered this due to their extremely close communication they shared from when he was in her womb. She was always around him to make sure that every one of his needs were satisfied without even having to mention them. When others misunderstood him he could always search comfort and understanding from his mother. She was, as previously mentioned, "tucked around him"It's quite a hard read, the boy never did feel comfortable in himself and never understood how to socialize with other human beings. The entire read can be found here. (Obs. in swedish
I don't want to be an ass or anything, but i don't get this part "never understood how to socialize with other human beings." seems like he actually did know how to socialize with others. Maybe not just girls. Seems like that would be his Youtube account, dunno has it been here already.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On October 13 2010 06:48 Grettin wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On October 13 2010 05:23 KvltMan wrote:Sorry for the double-post, but Marcus' (as his name was) mother has written a short (34 pdf-pages) summary of her life for a swedish website called http://www.livshistorier.se. The parts concerning Marcus are a bit disturbing, he couldn't speak properly until he was three years old, and hardly played or talked to his siblings. " Först vid 18 års ålder får Marcus sin diagnos: högfungerande autism.
Att diagnosen inte ställdes tidigare anser Anna till största delen har att göra med
den nära kommunikation hon redan under graviditeten upplevde med Marcus.
Hon har alltid funnits där kring honom och sett till att han fått sina behov
tillgodosedda utan att han egentligen behövt uttala dem. När andra har missförstått
Marcus har han alltid kunnat söka och få förståelse hos sin mamma. Hon har, som
hon säger, ”bäddat runt honom”." It wasn't until he was eighteen Marcus received his diagnosis: highly-functioning autism.
Anna thinks that they never considered this due to their extremely close communication they shared from when he was in her womb. She was always around him to make sure that every one of his needs were satisfied without even having to mention them. When others misunderstood him he could always search comfort and understanding from his mother. She was, as previously mentioned, "tucked around him"It's quite a hard read, the boy never did feel comfortable in himself and never understood how to socialize with other human beings. The entire read can be found here. (Obs. in swedish I don't want to be an ass, but i don't get this part "never understood how to socialize with other human beings." seems like he actually did know how to socialize with others. Maybe not just girls. Seems like that would be his Youtube account, dunno has it been here already. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-44PrVnXOeQ
Lol, don't feel like an ass, it's good that you point out stuff that's wrong.
But idk, he himself wrote in the thread that he felt lonely, and by reading his mom's story it just seemed like he couldn't process or understand a lot of things he was asked as a kid and also felt really lonely, so I just assumed he was pretty introverted.
My apologies.
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On October 13 2010 06:53 KvltMan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 06:48 Grettin wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On October 13 2010 05:23 KvltMan wrote:Sorry for the double-post, but Marcus' (as his name was) mother has written a short (34 pdf-pages) summary of her life for a swedish website called http://www.livshistorier.se. The parts concerning Marcus are a bit disturbing, he couldn't speak properly until he was three years old, and hardly played or talked to his siblings. " Först vid 18 års ålder får Marcus sin diagnos: högfungerande autism.
Att diagnosen inte ställdes tidigare anser Anna till största delen har att göra med
den nära kommunikation hon redan under graviditeten upplevde med Marcus.
Hon har alltid funnits där kring honom och sett till att han fått sina behov
tillgodosedda utan att han egentligen behövt uttala dem. När andra har missförstått
Marcus har han alltid kunnat söka och få förståelse hos sin mamma. Hon har, som
hon säger, ”bäddat runt honom”." It wasn't until he was eighteen Marcus received his diagnosis: highly-functioning autism.
Anna thinks that they never considered this due to their extremely close communication they shared from when he was in her womb. She was always around him to make sure that every one of his needs were satisfied without even having to mention them. When others misunderstood him he could always search comfort and understanding from his mother. She was, as previously mentioned, "tucked around him"It's quite a hard read, the boy never did feel comfortable in himself and never understood how to socialize with other human beings. The entire read can be found here. (Obs. in swedish I don't want to be an ass, but i don't get this part "never understood how to socialize with other human beings." seems like he actually did know how to socialize with others. Maybe not just girls. Seems like that would be his Youtube account, dunno has it been here already. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-44PrVnXOeQ Lol, don't feel like an ass, it's good that you point out stuff that's wrong. But idk, he himself wrote in the thread that he felt lonely, and by reading his mom's story it just seemed like he couldn't process or understand a lot of things he was asked as a kid and also felt really lonely, so I just assumed he was pretty introverted. My apologies.
No no, its just that he even said himself that he was lonely as fuck and didn't know how to socialize with people etc.
But yeah, once again, rip.
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Mate of mine told me about it as it was going on. He said some dude is threatening to hang himself on web cam. Now like a train wreck I thought it was horrible, but I wanted to see. I doubted anything would happen. My friend was giving running commentary, and then all of a sudden started screaming that it was real, so I didn't load up the page.
I think it's sad people tried to get him to do it. Even if there are lots of trolls saying they will, it's a bit messed up to assume it's a troll and egg someone on.
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see something like this as news every few months. every single time everyone eggs them on and then realizes they werent joking. every single time
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I have a bit of a morbid request.
Does anyone have pictures?
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On October 13 2010 07:35 Exclamator wrote:
I have a bit of a morbid request.
Does anyone have pictures?
Full video + Show Spoiler +
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On October 13 2010 07:40 KvltMan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 07:35 Exclamator wrote:
I have a bit of a morbid request.
Does anyone have pictures? Full video
That wasn't so much of a hanging than it was a self-induced choking. I was expecting a neck-breaking one.
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People are gonna call my cynical for this, and hell I guess I am. But I can't feel sorry about someone dieing because of a suicide, it was their decision, and they figured it was the right thing to do. I also think that people who resort to suicide instead of really confronting their problems are of a weak mental fortitude. I however do feel sorry for the people who had to see the morbidity of the video and are not able to handle it, I can completely understand that. But I will never feel sorry for someone who killed themselves, especially one who made it such a spectacle.
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On October 13 2010 02:27 emythrel wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
anyone think thinks taking your own life is EASY or and EASY WAY OUT needs to think for more than one second about what they are saying.
I suffer from Bi-Polar Disorder, i go from deepest depression to hyper mode faster than a 6pool kills me. when i was younger I couldn't deal with it, i didn't manage the disorder well and I was in a bad state alot of the time. I tried to take my life on multiple occasions, thankfully I failed via a combination of people turning up at the right time to save me and sheer luck.
I never told anyone what I was going to do, I wasn't doing it for the attention, at the time I just wanted out. I couldn't handle not knowing how i was going to feel about the world from day to day, it was horrible.I won't go in to too many details on what i did to myself, but I have a tattoo that exactly cover up some of the scars (I made a pattern with a cut-throat razor) to remind me what i almost lost.
You have no idea how much resolve and will power it takes to intentionally harm yourself to the point that you will die. I'm not talking about "self harm", thats a completely different mind set, I am talking about knowingly attempting to end your life. Billions of years of evolution have created instincts for self preservation, to override this programming which is HARD CODED in to you takes enormous courage and self control. I challenge anyone to take a cut throat razor and slice a part of your body open...... most people wouldn't be able to do it, because they would be scared of the pain, of those who could do it, most wouldn't cut deep enough to understand how hard it really is to damage your body to the point of dying. what i'm trying to say is, hurting yourself is Stupid (notice the capitol S), but not cowardly.
Having been in a place where i thought the world would be better without me, and now in a place where i would do anything to save my own life has been a massive transition and one that took many friends supporting me to achieve. there was a time when i honestly believed my lfie was worthless, and even then the thought of taking my own life made me feel sick, but i mastered myself and did what at the time i felt was the right thing to do.
I am eternally thankful for those who came to my rescue and for the fact that my body was so used to taking drugs (both medicinal and recreational) that my tolerance saved me on more than one occasion..... it seemed i simply wasn't meant to die at times, even tho i am not religious, it felt like somehow it always went wrong.
Its always a sad day when someone takes their own life, but sometimes, though it may seem selfish to those who do not know true depression, in your mind while you are doing it..... you honestly think no one will miss you, no one will care, and even those who do are better off without you around bringing them down. Many people who commit suicide say in their notes things like "I couldn't bare seeing how miserable i was making you, hopefully now you can be happy" - aimed at thier loved ones - and in their altered state they honestly think they are doing the right thing.
To put into context the sort of person i was when i attempted to take my own life.....
I was 14 (first time, 17 last time), captain of my school soccer, rugby and basketball teams, sponsored for Skateboarding and Snowboarding. In a band (i am now a professional Singer and sound technician), had a gorgeous girlfriend and lots of friends.
I was by no means the "usual" suicide case. However, I have a disorder that completely messes with my head.
You may ask what changed things for me, and the answer is simple. I began to talk to people about my disorder, and about my feelings. I let my friends in and they helped an immense amount, I was lucky I had friends. Alot of people who take their lives don't have anyone to lean on, and I really needed people to lean on.... until I was 22 and my son was born. From that day on, the thought of taking my own life has never once entered my head.
I am one of the lucky ones, able to tell the world about my experiences, I had friends who aren't here anymore because they succeeded in taking their lives, I miss them very much and wish they had been lucky like me and somehow managed to find their way back from the darkness. I take great offense to people sullying their memory by saying they took the easy way out..... they are gone, never to return, never to love, never to live all because of a plethora of reasons. Whether they were born different, or mistreated by parents/piers or had a mental disorder that went unnoticed or a host of other causes.
No one is born wanting to kill themselves, it is a tragedy and we should do everything we can to find out why people do it, and then to attempt to remove those things from the world.
Great post man, everyone in this thread should read it.
Glad you're still here :D
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People are gonna call my cynical for this, and hell I guess I am. But I can't feel sorry about someone dieing because of a suicide, it was their decision, and they figured it was the right thing to do. I also think that people who resort to suicide instead of really confronting their problems are of a weak mental fortitude.
I'm going to have to agree here. I feel more empathy for animals being abused than I do about these type of people. And I won't pretend like many others either like I am mortified or think it's sad. Because frankly, these kinds of things happen a lot.
I didn't think it was graphic either but I suppose I'm too desensitized to watching gory movies to consider this graphic.
It is a little disturbing though.
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On October 13 2010 08:13 Pandonetho wrote:Show nested quote +People are gonna call my cynical for this, and hell I guess I am. But I can't feel sorry about someone dieing because of a suicide, it was their decision, and they figured it was the right thing to do. I also think that people who resort to suicide instead of really confronting their problems are of a weak mental fortitude. I'm going to have to agree here. I feel more empathy for animals being abused than I do about these type of people. And I won't pretend like many others either like I am mortified or think it's sad. Because frankly, these kinds of things happen a lot. I didn't think it was graphic either but I suppose I'm too desensitized to watching gory movies to consider this graphic. It is a little disturbing though.
I don't want to argue here and I'm not saying suicide is the right way out in any situation, but when if you study psychology you would know that a lot of shunning out and loneliness can make people not see any other options. There's no way to really explain why someone commits suicide even if there's evidence to back it up, but the idea is that when someone sees no reason to live, suicide seems like the best thing to do, in their mind.
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On October 12 2010 17:42 TallMax wrote:
To the author of the OP, and anyone else who has watched this, I hope you're doing OK, but don't beat yourself up over it. There's large events in history that change the way we will perceive the world, even things that happen before we were born; and, there's small, tragic events that not everyone is directly a part of that help shape us differently than everyone else. Posts like this always bring up arguments about suicide, but the real point here is how it happened and how to help people who've seen this. Don't get caught up in the opinions that aren't related to your experience, particularly from people who don't even know you.
My main point is, you're still alive, decide what you want to take from having seen this. You don't have to make a sunny day out of it, but try to take something from this situation. Don't let this be another meaningless death. Oh, and go have some ice cream, or hot chocolate.
Can I get an amen
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On October 13 2010 06:29 TehForce wrote:
people die everyday, get over it
I think how he was referring to how he was personally involved with the event. If someone you met died, people wouldn't say what you just said.
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That's saddening. Though people mention the numerous deaths occurring each and everyday, it still doesn't diminish the fact that society has failed yet another person. What's even worse is that we've all become desensitized to these kinds of tragedies and even come to call many attempted ones fake. It's sad really, that society has fallen so low that people would even make troll posts about these kinds of events. And that is what saddens me more.
I hoped the internet was moving us forward. It is but it seems just toward another kind darkness.
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