EPTGuy hangs himself, streams it via webcam - Page 3
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whiteLotus
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
On October 12 2010 07:48 Coagulation wrote: that sucks if its real. just curious how can you tell if this wasnt just a very well staged hoax.. This attitude could've instigated the event more, like everyone thinking it's fake and antagonizing him about it. If everyone had been telling him not to do it, that may have stopped him OR if someone believed it was going to really happen and called the police sooner, the death could've been prevented and he could've gotten the help that he needed, even if it was maybe unwanted by him. It's sad that even with the internet, people are still this lonely. Such a sad story/situation. | ||
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Mrwl
Sweden339 Posts
On October 12 2010 08:11 johnlee wrote:  How're you doing??? Are you okay? I'm feeling deeply disturbed.. couldn't really eat that much today. Just feels so close, the fact that I actually talked to the man only minutes before he hanged himself is really terrifying for me but still, can't even mention it in the same sentence as what his family, relatives and friends must be feeling right now. | ||
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pewzzri
23 Posts
I do not understand people feeling bad about it, i mean in sweden around 1200 people kill themself every year that's ~3 people everyday you can "feel" bad about then? would it had been better if he didn't stream it since you wouldn't had known about it? Also he wrote on facebook just a few days ago that he needed a rope to hang himself and one of his friends told him to use the networkcord instead, and he seemed very calm while writing so i don't think if some random anonymous people would had told him to not do it instead of pushing for it he wouldn't had done it. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
this is so sad. | ||
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skYfiVe
United States382 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On October 12 2010 08:15 whiteLotus wrote: erm could i posibly see that video somewhere? Don't ask for it here. | ||
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Mrwl
Sweden339 Posts
On October 12 2010 08:15 pewzzri wrote: I saw this and thought it was kinda exciting, i've never seen a suicide live. if you feel so bad about watching it why did you even watch it or read it? Wasn't my intention of actually following this, I just stumbled across the "troll"thread and decided to check it. Kinda grew into it... I do not understand people feeling bad about it, i mean in sweden around 1200 people kill themself every year that's ~3 people everyday you can "feel" bad about then? would it had been better if he didn't stream it since you wouldn't had known about it? Of course it feels thousands of times worse when you actually get to know a little bit about the person, what he feels, who he is and then actually get to witness when he commits suicide. I can't comment on the other people commiting suicide since I don't know who they are, when they do it, why they do it etc. This one just felt so close. | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
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baikor
Bulgaria28 Posts
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
Support to you Mrwl. Do somethin fun and try to get it out of your mind. | ||
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kammeyer
United States275 Posts
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On the other hand, the reasons that he used are kinda bullshit. I have Asperger's Syndrome too, and while I did indeed suffer a bit of bullying and alienation in my childhood, I can confidently say that the kind of torment I went through is reserved pretty much for pre-college life (granted, some teasing by siblings still happens, but that's more of a family issue). After the shittiness of high school, people tend to be a lot more lenient and compassionate. I don't know how old this fellow was or if the Swedish educational system is similar to that of America's, but if he was still a minor, waiting it out until he hits 18 would have opened up a lot of freedom for him. If he was 18+, then it's probably the environment he was living in that drove him over the edge, and not just some villainous bullies with a grudge. In that case, I would suggest some kind of psychotherapy session, or consoling, or a new place to live, or anti-depression medicines (I take these, they DRASTICALLY curb the quirks of Asperger's), or... anything, really. Killing yourself isn't very high on my treatment list. And as for being lonely? It's not that hard to socialize, even if you DO have Asperger's (which limits social interaction). Go outside, hang out with some people at school or your job, make new friends! Being clouded by your misconception of "I have no friends, the world hates me" can only lead to a further descent into despair. I would know, I've been there. So, I guess I'm more disappointed with this man, rather than sad for him. He had so many other choices, and he threw them away in favor of not having to make choices ever again. It's pitiable, really. By the way, I don't mean to be unnecessarily harsh, or incite any flames. These are simply my views on the matter, and if you disagree, don't say that I'm pro-suicide or some nonsense. That hurts my feelings. =( | ||
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kammeyer
United States275 Posts
On October 12 2010 08:34 Aeres wrote: I'm torn on this. On the one hand, I share his opinion on living for yourself and not others. I'm not particularly upset that he ignored pleas to stop and killed himself. (Note that I'm not saying I don't care if he dies, just that the choice was his to make, and if he was really focused on this, then I feel I have no right to stop him). On the other hand, the reasons that he used are kinda bullshit. I have Asperger's Syndrome too, and while I did indeed suffer a bit of bullying and alienation in my childhood, I can confidently say that the kind of torment I went through is reserved pretty much for pre-college life (granted, some teasing by siblings still happens, but that's more of a family issue). After the shittiness of high school, people tend to be a lot more lenient and compassionate. I don't know how old this fellow was or if the Swedish educational system is similar to that of America's, but if he was still a minor, waiting it out until he hits 18 would have opened up a lot of freedom for him. If he was 18+, then it's probably the environment he was living in that drove him over the edge, and not just some villainous bullies with a grudge. In that case, I would suggest some kind of psychotherapy session, or consoling, or a new place to live, or anti-depression medicines (I take these, they DRASTICALLY curb the quirks of Asperger's), or... anything, really. Killing yourself isn't very high on my treatment list. And as for being lonely? It's not that hard to socialize, even if you DO have Asperger's (which limits social interaction). Go outside, hang out with some people at school or your job, make new friends! Being clouded by your misconception of "I have no friends, the world hates me" can only lead to a further descent into despair. I would know, I've been there. So, I guess I'm more disappointed with this man, rather than sad for him. He had so many other choices, and he threw them away in favor of not having to make choices ever again. It's pitiable, really. By the way, I don't mean to be unnecessarily harsh, or incite any flames. These are simply my views on the matter, and if you disagree, don't say that I'm pro-suicide or some nonsense. That hurts my feelings. =( There are certainly different levels of severity of aspergers' syndrome. I'm glad that you successfully got over your quirks and learned to socialize, but it certainly isn't as easily overcome for some others due to the different severity of cases there are with the disease, know what I'm saying? ;P | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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Eloquent
United States475 Posts
It's like everybody is trying to prove that he is a troll, then got owned by the guy in return that he is not. This. Sickens. Me. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On October 12 2010 08:11 Dali. wrote: Yea it was real. There were a couple threads @ you know where. I don't feel terribly disturbed by it. The man was evidently not enjoying life and didn't see a way out. He took his life to release himself from his problems, he understood the consequences, it wasn't a tragic accident. In a strange way, having on lookers may have eased his mind, he was getting attention (albeit for the wrong reasons), something which he may have never have had before. Sorry if this comes off as cruel or offensive, its just my take on things. IMO it is worse for a young man enjoying life to lose his life in circumstances outside of his control rather than an unhappy one making a conscious decision to end his. I don't think it's disturbing (haven't looked at the video though) but I find it incredibly sad. He probably could have turned things around with the right mindset and some help from the right people. He may have been aware of the consequences but that doesn't mean he was aware of the alternatives. | ||
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