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On September 02 2010 05:14 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 04:54 Lebesgue wrote:I have sent them a very polite email regarding the issue but I would be surprise if the respond. Yea... Thanks though. I think with enough voice we can make an impact. If we can't muster enough support, then it will show them how small we really are -_-; Unfortunately the impact of polite email complaints is minuscule compared to the almighty dollar.
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GG esports. Way to go blizzard.
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Its just dumb... SC2 has such a big scene in Europe. The ESL has taken SC2 as one of their games. The MLS has also added SC2 ( The US ). Anywhere else in the world plays SC1 as much as Korea? No... But the pro's are always coming from Korea. Every Blizzcon and WCG is won by the koreans in SC1. Then no one in Korea wants to play SC2... its just a very big controversy I believe. Blizzard just wants everyone to move to SC2... what a dirty way to promote... :S
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All the pro blizzard posters are failing to truly recognise what Kespa has done for the game.
Think of it as a pie, blizzard wants a slice of that pie just because they sold the fruits to kespa. Kespa is the one who baked the pie. Who the is blizzard to say how they use the fruits, by buying the game you get rights as a customer to use it.
People make billions literally billions through the internet, are we all paying a fee to the guy who invented the internet?
The guy who invented basketball in the 20th century, does NBA pay him massive fees? does he threaten to shut down the NBA (i think hes dead now tho).
Its ungrateful especially because BW only continued to sell thanks to Kespa for over 12 years.
The pro leagues, the corporate teams, none of it without kespa. They weren't thieving anything, the only reason they asked MBC and OGN to pay for broadcast rights to PL is because they spend heaps of money maintaining the teams.
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On September 01 2010 20:21 Rekrul wrote: gotta love a thread full of misinformed idiots who all think they know whats going on babbling amongst eachother! So why dont you share some light on the situation.
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On September 03 2010 09:57 kyrshiro wrote: It's about time that Blizzard is putting their foot down with the BW scene in Korea.
Blizzard put a-lot of hard work into SC2 and its natural for them to want to see the game progress in the E-Sports scene. People playing BW in tournaments now is like watching people play Halo 1, instead of Halo 3?
Why keep playing the original when the new is out, sure people can keep playing BW without any restriction. But when companies like KeSPA/MBC are benefiting through sponsorship, viewer ship and mass media coverage. Blizzard needs to make sure their company is benefiting best serves themselves and their customers even if many don't agree. I'm sure a majority of users HAVE made the switch from BW to SC2.
I know many don't agree with me, this is just my opinion, I agree with Blizzard for removing BW or taking steps to remove it from the Pro-Gaming scene not only in korea but the rest of the world too.
Times are changing folks.
how can you put so much nonsense in just one post?
I am a BW fan and I still from time to time enjoy to play it and I love all the korean leagues. These things belong to the bw scene and now some kids like you walk in with no appreciation for this beauty and claim that it all must go and be replaced by WHAT YOU LIKE. What's your problem? Why are so many people so self-centred and intrusive, when in fact sc2 could be developed in a natural way and then compete with bw for the fan base on an even footing or develop as two totally independent scenes. Not by destroying what's dear to a lot of people and then artificially fill in the created vacuum with something else and trying to force us to like it as we did the previous.
Let it die if it's old and tired, but do not try to rape and kill it.
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Blizzard was such a great company it was not even funny... And now...damn, I so regret that they werent officially accused of plagiarism by Games Workshop (warcraft case). I know that they would probably won the case, but that would make them much less arogant. Than would be a shit talk about IP...
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On September 03 2010 09:57 kyrshiro wrote: It's about time that Blizzard is putting their foot down with the BW scene in Korea.
Blizzard put a-lot of hard work into SC2 and its natural for them to want to see the game progress in the E-Sports scene. People playing BW in tournaments now is like watching people play Halo 1, instead of Halo 3?
Why keep playing the original when the new is out, sure people can keep playing BW without any restriction. But when companies like KeSPA/MBC are benefiting through sponsorship, viewer ship and mass media coverage. Blizzard needs to make sure their company is benefiting best serves themselves and their customers even if many don't agree. I'm sure a majority of users HAVE made the switch from BW to SC2.
I know many don't agree with me, this is just my opinion, I agree with Blizzard for removing BW or taking steps to remove it from the Pro-Gaming scene not only in korea but the rest of the world too.
Times are changing folks.
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Post count & date of registration matters lololol
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Fenrax
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Blizzard has only one interest, money. Nothing wrong with that, but I won't give them a cent. Not for SC2, not for WoW, not for anything just because I don't like the face of the company anymore. I am BW for as long as the game live because that game is awesome and if BW should die I either quit (watching) E-Sports or find something from a company I like. I dont give a shit about SC2.
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I can't even read these threads anymore due to the vast amount of incorrect information on both sides.
I'm just here to thank Milkis for his constant updating. Ty sir.
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On September 03 2010 09:57 kyrshiro wrote: It's about time that Blizzard is putting their foot down with the BW scene in Korea.
Blizzard put a-lot of hard work into SC2 and its natural for them to want to see the game progress in the E-Sports scene. People playing BW in tournaments now is like watching people play Halo 1, instead of Halo 3?
Why keep playing the original when the new is out, sure people can keep playing BW without any restriction. But when companies like KeSPA/MBC are benefiting through sponsorship, viewer ship and mass media coverage. Blizzard needs to make sure their company is benefiting best serves themselves and their customers even if many don't agree. I'm sure a majority of users HAVE made the switch from BW to SC2.
I know many don't agree with me, this is just my opinion, I agree with Blizzard for removing BW or taking steps to remove it from the Pro-Gaming scene not only in korea but the rest of the world too.
Times are changing folks.
You cannot be serious. Even as someone who would benefit from SC2 replacing SC1 (as I play and like SC2), this is just ridiculous.
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Blizzard spend alot of time and money developing a game, and now they want a slice of the pie. Quite frankly, I can't believe they let a foreign entity take control of their intellectual property for so long, without garnering any profits of their own. If KESPA and co. are too proud/greedy to negotiate a compromise, that is their own failing. Perhaps Gretech's terms are too harsh, but I doubt it. Wouldn't Gretech benefit from the continuation of the leagues if a compromise were reached?
I feel sorry for the fans, but this is the way capitalism works. There's no such thing as a free lunch, as they say.
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On September 03 2010 22:04 shiftY803 wrote: I feel sorry for the fans, but this is the way capitalism works. There's no such thing as a free lunch, as they say. No, this is how monopolies and bullshit intellectual property laws work by creating artificial scarcity. The "lunch" is already paid for by the companies that sponsor the progaming teams; it's not costing Blizzard/Gretech anything.
Capitalism would be that Blizzard/Gretech run their SC2 leagues without interfering with the BW scene, and attract players/viewers/sponsors solely on merit of the entertainment value they provide.
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Blizzard spend alot of time and money developing a game, and now they want a slice of the pie. Seeking compensation is one thing, but smashing the old pie because you baked a new one is something different.
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aw man, i got into bw too late and now it seems to be going south 
all good things and all that. but who knows, it's not for definite OSL/MSL won't continue, right?
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Nothing is definite. Kespa seems to have things headed to court (which has sided with them in the past?) Without proleague, sponsors will have less reason to keep their teams funded. OSL/MSL could continue without a team structure, but it'd be several very large steps backwards.
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Atleast if the korean bw scene dies i can finally stop playing bw but its so awesome to wake up and watch some koreans play bw and tbh i want this for the rest of my life its never gonna get boring nothing intrested me as much as bw did.
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RIP Proper E-Sports
Lets all welcome the shitstorm that is SC2 "E-Sports" (The quotation marks there are important =P)
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