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[Update p.28] Gretech - KeSPA/MBC negotiations break down…

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zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
September 03 2010 02:13 GMT
#441
On September 02 2010 05:14 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 04:54 Lebesgue wrote:
On September 02 2010 04:33 Murderotica wrote:
Everyone needs to send complaint forms to Blizzard with just this link as the complaint.

https://us.blizzard.com/support/webform.xml?locale=en_US

(Link for USA people).

I am sending this one right now.


I have sent them a very polite email regarding the issue but I would be surprise if the respond.

Yea... Thanks though. I think with enough voice we can make an impact. If we can't muster enough support, then it will show them how small we really are -_-;

Unfortunately the impact of polite email complaints is minuscule compared to the almighty dollar.
St. Fu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States75 Posts
September 03 2010 04:02 GMT
#442
GG esports. Way to go blizzard.
Tristanity
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia45 Posts
September 03 2010 06:31 GMT
#443
Its just dumb... SC2 has such a big scene in Europe. The ESL has taken SC2 as one of their games. The MLS has also added SC2 ( The US ). Anywhere else in the world plays SC1 as much as Korea? No... But the pro's are always coming from Korea. Every Blizzcon and WCG is won by the koreans in SC1. Then no one in Korea wants to play SC2... its just a very big controversy I believe. Blizzard just wants everyone to move to SC2... what a dirty way to promote... :S
"I always believe in playing the macro game"
Rikstah
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia126 Posts
September 03 2010 08:22 GMT
#444
All the pro blizzard posters are failing to truly recognise what Kespa has done for the game.

Think of it as a pie, blizzard wants a slice of that pie just because they sold the fruits to kespa. Kespa is the one who baked the pie. Who the is blizzard to say how they use the fruits, by buying the game you get rights as a customer to use it.

People make billions literally billions through the internet, are we all paying a fee to the guy who invented the internet?

The guy who invented basketball in the 20th century, does NBA pay him massive fees? does he threaten to shut down the NBA (i think hes dead now tho).

Its ungrateful especially because BW only continued to sell thanks to Kespa for over 12 years.

The pro leagues, the corporate teams, none of it without kespa. They weren't thieving anything, the only reason they asked MBC and OGN to pay for broadcast rights to PL is because they spend heaps of money maintaining the teams.

Thors before Whores man
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
September 03 2010 08:25 GMT
#445
On September 01 2010 20:21 Rekrul wrote:
gotta love a thread full of misinformed idiots who all think they know whats going on babbling amongst eachother!

So why dont you share some light on the situation.
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
September 03 2010 09:09 GMT
#446
On September 03 2010 09:57 kyrshiro wrote:
It's about time that Blizzard is putting their foot down with the BW scene in Korea.

Blizzard put a-lot of hard work into SC2 and its natural for them to want to see the game progress in the E-Sports scene. People playing BW in tournaments now is like watching people play Halo 1, instead of Halo 3?

Why keep playing the original when the new is out, sure people can keep playing BW without any restriction. But when companies like KeSPA/MBC are benefiting through sponsorship, viewer ship and mass media coverage. Blizzard needs to make sure their company is benefiting best serves themselves and their customers even if many don't agree. I'm sure a majority of users HAVE made the switch from BW to SC2.

I know many don't agree with me, this is just my opinion, I agree with Blizzard for removing BW or taking steps to remove it from the Pro-Gaming scene not only in korea but the rest of the world too.

Times are changing folks.


how can you put so much nonsense in just one post?

I am a BW fan and I still from time to time enjoy to play it and I love all the korean leagues. These things belong to the bw scene and now some kids like you walk in with no appreciation for this beauty and claim that it all must go and be replaced by WHAT YOU LIKE. What's your problem? Why are so many people so self-centred and intrusive, when in fact sc2 could be developed in a natural way and then compete with bw for the fan base on an even footing or develop as two totally independent scenes. Not by destroying what's dear to a lot of people and then artificially fill in the created vacuum with something else and trying to force us to like it as we did the previous.


Let it die if it's old and tired, but do not try to rape and kill it.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 09:31:04
September 03 2010 09:29 GMT
#447
Blizzard was such a great company it was not even funny...
And now...damn, I so regret that they werent officially accused of plagiarism by Games Workshop (warcraft case). I know that they would probably won the case, but that would make them much less arogant.
Than would be a shit talk about IP...
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 03 2010 09:39 GMT
#448
On September 03 2010 09:57 kyrshiro wrote:
It's about time that Blizzard is putting their foot down with the BW scene in Korea.

Blizzard put a-lot of hard work into SC2 and its natural for them to want to see the game progress in the E-Sports scene. People playing BW in tournaments now is like watching people play Halo 1, instead of Halo 3?

Why keep playing the original when the new is out, sure people can keep playing BW without any restriction. But when companies like KeSPA/MBC are benefiting through sponsorship, viewer ship and mass media coverage. Blizzard needs to make sure their company is benefiting best serves themselves and their customers even if many don't agree. I'm sure a majority of users HAVE made the switch from BW to SC2.

I know many don't agree with me, this is just my opinion, I agree with Blizzard for removing BW or taking steps to remove it from the Pro-Gaming scene not only in korea but the rest of the world too.

Times are changing folks.


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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 09:54:50
September 03 2010 09:42 GMT
#449
Post count & date of registration matters lololol
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 10:14:37
September 03 2010 10:14 GMT
#450
edit: wrong thread
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
September 03 2010 10:32 GMT
#451
Blizzard has only one interest, money. Nothing wrong with that, but I won't give them a cent. Not for SC2, not for WoW, not for anything just because I don't like the face of the company anymore. I am BW for as long as the game live because that game is awesome and if BW should die I either quit (watching) E-Sports or find something from a company I like. I dont give a shit about SC2.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
September 03 2010 10:34 GMT
#452
I can't even read these threads anymore due to the vast amount of incorrect information on both sides.

I'm just here to thank Milkis for his constant updating. Ty sir.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 03 2010 10:42 GMT
#453
On September 03 2010 09:57 kyrshiro wrote:
It's about time that Blizzard is putting their foot down with the BW scene in Korea.

Blizzard put a-lot of hard work into SC2 and its natural for them to want to see the game progress in the E-Sports scene. People playing BW in tournaments now is like watching people play Halo 1, instead of Halo 3?

Why keep playing the original when the new is out, sure people can keep playing BW without any restriction. But when companies like KeSPA/MBC are benefiting through sponsorship, viewer ship and mass media coverage. Blizzard needs to make sure their company is benefiting best serves themselves and their customers even if many don't agree. I'm sure a majority of users HAVE made the switch from BW to SC2.

I know many don't agree with me, this is just my opinion, I agree with Blizzard for removing BW or taking steps to remove it from the Pro-Gaming scene not only in korea but the rest of the world too.

Times are changing folks.

You cannot be serious. Even as someone who would benefit from SC2 replacing SC1 (as I play and like SC2), this is just ridiculous.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
shiftY803
Profile Joined April 2010
200 Posts
September 03 2010 13:04 GMT
#454
Blizzard spend alot of time and money developing a game, and now they want a slice of the pie. Quite frankly, I can't believe they let a foreign entity take control of their intellectual property for so long, without garnering any profits of their own. If KESPA and co. are too proud/greedy to negotiate a compromise, that is their own failing. Perhaps Gretech's terms are too harsh, but I doubt it. Wouldn't Gretech benefit from the continuation of the leagues if a compromise were reached?

I feel sorry for the fans, but this is the way capitalism works. There's no such thing as a free lunch, as they say.
live without appeal. ~ camus
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
September 03 2010 13:18 GMT
#455
On September 03 2010 22:04 shiftY803 wrote:
I feel sorry for the fans, but this is the way capitalism works. There's no such thing as a free lunch, as they say.

No, this is how monopolies and bullshit intellectual property laws work by creating artificial scarcity. The "lunch" is already paid for by the companies that sponsor the progaming teams; it's not costing Blizzard/Gretech anything.

Capitalism would be that Blizzard/Gretech run their SC2 leagues without interfering with the BW scene, and attract players/viewers/sponsors solely on merit of the entertainment value they provide.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
September 03 2010 13:46 GMT
#456
Blizzard spend alot of time and money developing a game, and now they want a slice of the pie.

Seeking compensation is one thing, but smashing the old pie because you baked a new one is something different.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
September 03 2010 14:00 GMT
#457
aw man, i got into bw too late and now it seems to be going south

all good things and all that. but who knows, it's not for definite OSL/MSL won't continue, right?
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
September 03 2010 14:46 GMT
#458
Nothing is definite.
Kespa seems to have things headed to court (which has sided with them in the past?)
Without proleague, sponsors will have less reason to keep their teams funded.
OSL/MSL could continue without a team structure, but it'd be several very large steps backwards.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
September 03 2010 15:17 GMT
#459
Atleast if the korean bw scene dies i can finally stop playing bw but its so awesome to wake up and watch some koreans play bw and tbh i want this for the rest of my life its never gonna get boring nothing intrested me as much as bw did.
Zionner
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland112 Posts
September 03 2010 15:28 GMT
#460
RIP Proper E-Sports

Lets all welcome the shitstorm that is SC2 "E-Sports" (The quotation marks there are important =P)
For the Swarm!
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