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what does "cookie-cutter" mean

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SpartiK1S
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States145 Posts
August 30 2010 20:52 GMT
#1
what does cookie-cutter mean in relation to BO's? I searched in TL, found some threads but they never explained. I've heard this used a lot to refer to...something. What does it mean?
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WCH
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada239 Posts
August 30 2010 20:52 GMT
#2
Another word for "Standard"
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 30 2010 20:53 GMT
#3
cookie cutter means bland and uninteresting .

a cookie cutter mold produces the exact same shape of cookie . if you do a cookie cutter build you're just copying something and its boring.
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Shadowed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States679 Posts
August 30 2010 20:54 GMT
#4
Cookie cutter basically means it's a standard. It would depend on the exact context, but usually it means if you're deviating from it you're doing something stupid.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 20:56:40
August 30 2010 20:55 GMT
#5
It really shouldn't mean anything in this game, its terminology that means standard, but in a very negative way, mainly brought over here by MMO players where standard often meant less skill due to a crappily balanced PvP game.

Example: "Lol you scrubs have no skill all you can do is run fotm cookie cutter builds".

If anything, in SC2, running standard builds is a sign of strong play, not weak play.
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Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
August 30 2010 20:57 GMT
#6
On August 31 2010 05:55 Half wrote:
It really shouldn't mean anything in this game, its terminology that means standard, but in a very negative way, mainly brought over here by MMO players where standard often meant less skill due to a crappily balanced PvP game.


You're so wrong it's unbelievable. I don't think the term "cookie-cutter" is even exclusive to videogames. It's just a generic term.
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baconbits
Profile Joined April 2010
United States419 Posts
August 30 2010 20:57 GMT
#7
derived from copying off a popular build from someone else. The terminology started out from wow/mmos "cookie cutter assassin build" etc

really doesnt fit the context of a RTS game, the closest thing would be standard play, which starts to vary anyway after a few minutes.
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
August 30 2010 20:57 GMT
#8
boring has negative connotation while cookie-cutter does not xeris.
standard would be better fit, and it comes from literally cookie-cutter, pieces of metal/plastic that lets you cut cookies into shapes like for x-mas cookies. and the idea is that cookie-cutter makes cookies that are identical.
hofodomo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
August 30 2010 20:59 GMT
#9
Don't forgot about "bread-and-butter" either, OP--it's also standard.
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blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
August 30 2010 21:02 GMT
#10
cookie cutters are the standard builds typically because they are the best builds.
Shadowed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States679 Posts
August 30 2010 21:03 GMT
#11
On August 31 2010 05:57 baconbits wrote:
derived from copying off a popular build from someone else. The terminology started out from wow/mmos "cookie cutter assassin build" etc

really doesnt fit the context of a RTS game, the closest thing would be standard play, which starts to vary anyway after a few minutes.


Close, the term cookie cutter build in the context of MMOs are accepted builds that are the best you can do. It's not really copying other peoples builds as much as not trying to do something like tri spec (in the WoW context), which basically is the equivalent to 2 pooling in SC2.
OhJesusWOW
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom127 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 21:07:19
August 30 2010 21:04 GMT
#12
Cookie Cutter means often emulated or imitated. I live in a "cookie cutter" community because of all of the houses have 1 of 3 different layouts to meet the standards of the HOA. EVERY house looks the same. The same is applied to Starcraft builds.
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cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
August 30 2010 21:05 GMT
#13
On August 31 2010 05:59 hofodomo wrote:
Don't forgot about "bread-and-butter" either, OP--it's also standard.


I thought bread-and-butter means the core of something.

"Food 120 timing is the bread-and-butter of this build" or
"The reaper harassment is the bread and butter of this build"
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The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
August 30 2010 21:09 GMT
#14
"Cookie cutter builds," "bread and butter," etc. are not phrases that are unique to SC2. They're just everyday phrases that can be applied to starcraft. Just use the general google meaning of the phrase and think about how it can apply to builds.

I blame casters. Just because HD says phrases like "bread and butter" several times in one game doesn't mean that they have unique meanings to SC2. It's just the limited vocabulary of casters and constant reuse that make people assume they have special hidden meanings and origins, grouping them with phrases like "cheese" and "timing push."
Snippa-
Profile Joined August 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 21:12:05
August 30 2010 21:10 GMT
#15
On August 31 2010 05:57 Kashll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 05:55 Half wrote:
It really shouldn't mean anything in this game, its terminology that means standard, but in a very negative way, mainly brought over here by MMO players where standard often meant less skill due to a crappily balanced PvP game.


You're so wrong it's unbelievable. I don't think the term "cookie-cutter" is even exclusive to videogames. It's just a generic term.

It may not be exclusive to video games, BUT in games like Ultima Online (an MMORPG if you're unaware) the term was used quite heavily. It became pretty popular to use that term.
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
August 30 2010 21:11 GMT
#16
no i think most WoW nerds think they created the word themselves.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 30 2010 21:16 GMT
#17
On August 31 2010 06:05 cive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 05:59 hofodomo wrote:
Don't forgot about "bread-and-butter" either, OP--it's also standard.


I thought bread-and-butter means the core of something.

"Food 120 timing is the bread-and-butter of this build" or
"The reaper harassment is the bread and butter of this build"


"Bread and butter" refers more towards what makes the build.
"The reaper is the bread and butter of the 5rax play against zerg."

"Cookie cutter" refers towards the exact spec of the build.
"The cookie cutter build of the 5rax is 9scv, 12rax, 14rax, blah blah (I actually dunno what the build order is, but just wanted to mention it for illustration purposes)"
Yargh
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
August 30 2010 21:20 GMT
#18
It means standard. Don't open a thread to ask a simple question.
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