some of you people are so sad. It's a video game, who cares if people are making macros. Blizz never said anything was wrong with it and it should be illegal for them to ban an account for it

carwashguy

United States175 Posts

August 23 2010 19:59 GMT

#67

I read some of his previous posts. Four days ago he posted a topic complaining about being forced to use certain hotkeys. He stated that one of his friends got banned for using macros...

Seems kind of attention whorish. But maybe he's telling the truth. He should provide picture proof or something.

I guess Blizzard could identify a macro if a player executes a series of commands faster than a human could. Hard to believe, though.

dson

Switzerland7 Posts

August 23 2010 19:59 GMT

#68

Doubt it is because of his keyboard. I use a G15 since it has been released, programmed simple macros for WoW aswell as in SC2. Nothing like BOs etc., in SC2 I have a macro to type "gl hf

" in the beginning. I know, I'm lazy

Terrakin

United States1440 Posts

August 23 2010 20:00 GMT

#69

On August 24 2010 04:56 howerpower wrote:
some of you people are so sad. It's a video game, who cares if people are making macros. Blizz never said anything was wrong with it and it should be illegal for them to ban an account for it

Cause it breaks all competitive-ness, maybe baller can help with a good analogy but I cant.
The terms of service is huge, im sure theres something in there that says no 3rd party software/hardware

also here at TL we crave balance, since we've been so used to it from BW days, how can you play against a person who will have near perfect macro.

Maybe you lower level players don't give a shit, but once you get to the higher levels the game completely changes, and needs to be balanced. A macro keyboard vs regular keyboard is NOT balanced.

MythicalMage

1360 Posts

August 23 2010 20:03 GMT

#70

When you start the game, you agree to the TOU and so forth. He broke it, so he got banned. Simple as that.

mainerd

United States347 Posts

August 23 2010 20:06 GMT

#71

BW hack detectors like BWHF used to detect multiselect/multicommand hacks due to the speed at which the commands could be input (faster than humanly possible), perhaps blizzard's code flagged it as a multicommand-esque hack? i don't really see a difference in how they would appear to a hack detector, whether it's software or a keyboard macro.

MadLag

Poland82 Posts

August 23 2010 20:08 GMT

#72

macros are for noobs once u reach certain level of play using them is just pain in ass ... then only good ones are simple things (rocket jump, duck crouch) - but since they are easy to do there is no real reason to use them. Another "useful" macros are ones that abuse some game bug or failed game setting (making pistol shoot like machine gun) - this thing is rather game makers fault and in most cases is fixed in next patch ;D Crying for macros is like crying for cheese or draw on ladder games ...

samalie

Canada87 Posts

August 23 2010 20:11 GMT

#73

Well, as a formerly long-standing WoW player, the "official" blizzard stance has always been "You can't use a keyboard macro to accomplish anything you cannot tie to a single keypress in-game".

So, for example, with the built-in Macro functionality in WoW, I could setup so that I could go through my entire rotation spamming one single key. The "key" of it all being, one keypress still equaled one action...so to lay it out a bit....

I could either cycle through my abilities pressing 2-3-4-4-5-6
Or I could press the 2 key 6 times with a macro.

Or I could be banned for pressing 2 once to go through the whole thing on a G15

I won't comment on the other forum's post though...seems a little, well, farfetched to me.

EDIT: I'm not saying that the G15 is inherently bad...but setting it up to essentially spam keypresses for you is "bad" per Blizzard's standpoint, at least in WoW. I have a G15 keyboard, and I've never got in trouble for using it smartly in either of WoW or SC2. In SC2, for example, I have my G keys bound to the keys for 6-7-8-9-0...I find it "easier" to hit the G-keys to select building control groups than the number keys, but hitting a button does the same as a number-key...it selects that control group...it doesn't build anything for me.

GreatFall

United States1061 Posts

August 23 2010 20:16 GMT

#74

This seems difficult to believe. With all the map hackers and disc hackers on right now they ban someone using a macro on a keyboard when the SCII keyboard does the same thing???

Ohdamn

Germany765 Posts

August 23 2010 20:24 GMT

#75

seems like a big fat fake
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Ghad

Norway2551 Posts

August 23 2010 20:24 GMT

#76

Well I am using a G15 without any macros at all, so i would be kinda pissed if something happened.

Can't really see any feasible ways that macros could help me in this game anyhow.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

August 23 2010 20:28 GMT

#77

I really like the thread title

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

August 23 2010 20:33 GMT

#78

I hope this is true.
I don't like the idea of someone using macros against me that's kinda lame.
As long as they are consistent and ban people who use "sc2" keyboards when laddering too.

OhNoItsTheMunch

United States96 Posts

August 23 2010 20:35 GMT

#79

Fake story or not, I dont think anyone is questioning the ethical implications of macros: they're cheating. However I do agree that if blizz is going to adopt such a policy, a little notice then a story like this would be appreciated, and it definitely does not warrant making the individual have to buy another copy of the game; they do that enough with the exclusion of cross realm play. I try to keep faith in blizz through some of this but they're making it difficult. Activision is poison.

Ohdamn

Germany765 Posts

August 23 2010 20:38 GMT

#80

it's not about the fact that macros are bad...it's just very hard for me to believe blizzard would ban somebody without a warning or anything just because they want to
especially if you think about WoW and the razor keyboard