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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
August 23 2010 19:48 GMT
#61
I call bullshit.. he's probably either just a hacker or he made the whole story up.
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 19:50:08
August 23 2010 19:49 GMT
#62
On August 24 2010 04:00 SOCOMICEPICK wrote:
" Third party hardware that creates an unfair advantage"

I bet they are referring to maphack.
And forgive me nothing for I truly meant it all
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
August 23 2010 19:50 GMT
#63
On August 24 2010 04:28 Merikh wrote:
So that means I can't bind my "backspace" to my "F1" key ?

Going to make a post on the sc2 forums to verify.


That's not a macro, that's setting your button to a single key.

Blizzard considers a "macro" an "automation".
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
August 23 2010 19:53 GMT
#64
they ban a macro key user, but they dont ban map hacks. Its gotta be true. xD
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
Lafie
Profile Joined August 2005
Finland36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 19:54:12
August 23 2010 19:53 GMT
#65
Edit: Had been asweared already.
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
August 23 2010 19:56 GMT
#66
some of you people are so sad. It's a video game, who cares if people are making macros. Blizz never said anything was wrong with it and it should be illegal for them to ban an account for it
carwashguy
Profile Joined June 2009
United States175 Posts
August 23 2010 19:59 GMT
#67
I read some of his previous posts. Four days ago he posted a topic complaining about being forced to use certain hotkeys. He stated that one of his friends got banned for using macros...

Seems kind of attention whorish. But maybe he's telling the truth. He should provide picture proof or something.

I guess Blizzard could identify a macro if a player executes a series of commands faster than a human could. Hard to believe, though.
dson
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland7 Posts
August 23 2010 19:59 GMT
#68
Doubt it is because of his keyboard. I use a G15 since it has been released, programmed simple macros for WoW aswell as in SC2. Nothing like BOs etc., in SC2 I have a macro to type "gl hf " in the beginning. I know, I'm lazy
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 20:05:31
August 23 2010 20:00 GMT
#69
On August 24 2010 04:56 howerpower wrote:
some of you people are so sad. It's a video game, who cares if people are making macros. Blizz never said anything was wrong with it and it should be illegal for them to ban an account for it

Cause it breaks all competitive-ness, maybe baller can help with a good analogy but I cant.
The terms of service is huge, im sure theres something in there that says no 3rd party software/hardware

also here at TL we crave balance, since we've been so used to it from BW days, how can you play against a person who will have near perfect macro.

Maybe you lower level players don't give a shit, but once you get to the higher levels the game completely changes, and needs to be balanced. A macro keyboard vs regular keyboard is NOT balanced.
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
August 23 2010 20:03 GMT
#70
When you start the game, you agree to the TOU and so forth. He broke it, so he got banned. Simple as that.
mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
August 23 2010 20:06 GMT
#71
BW hack detectors like BWHF used to detect multiselect/multicommand hacks due to the speed at which the commands could be input (faster than humanly possible), perhaps blizzard's code flagged it as a multicommand-esque hack? i don't really see a difference in how they would appear to a hack detector, whether it's software or a keyboard macro.
"Let me tell you, in eSTRO we had some circle jerks, straight up. It wasn't pretty." -NonY
MadLag
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland82 Posts
August 23 2010 20:08 GMT
#72
macros are for noobs once u reach certain level of play using them is just pain in ass ... then only good ones are simple things (rocket jump, duck crouch) - but since they are easy to do there is no real reason to use them. Another "useful" macros are ones that abuse some game bug or failed game setting (making pistol shoot like machine gun) - this thing is rather game makers fault and in most cases is fixed in next patch ;D Crying for macros is like crying for cheese or draw on ladder games ...
samalie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada87 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 20:29:05
August 23 2010 20:11 GMT
#73
Well, as a formerly long-standing WoW player, the "official" blizzard stance has always been "You can't use a keyboard macro to accomplish anything you cannot tie to a single keypress in-game".

So, for example, with the built-in Macro functionality in WoW, I could setup so that I could go through my entire rotation spamming one single key. The "key" of it all being, one keypress still equaled one action...so to lay it out a bit....

I could either cycle through my abilities pressing 2-3-4-4-5-6
Or I could press the 2 key 6 times with a macro.

Or I could be banned for pressing 2 once to go through the whole thing on a G15

I won't comment on the other forum's post though...seems a little, well, farfetched to me.

EDIT: I'm not saying that the G15 is inherently bad...but setting it up to essentially spam keypresses for you is "bad" per Blizzard's standpoint, at least in WoW. I have a G15 keyboard, and I've never got in trouble for using it smartly in either of WoW or SC2. In SC2, for example, I have my G keys bound to the keys for 6-7-8-9-0...I find it "easier" to hit the G-keys to select building control groups than the number keys, but hitting a button does the same as a number-key...it selects that control group...it doesn't build anything for me.
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
August 23 2010 20:16 GMT
#74
This seems difficult to believe. With all the map hackers and disc hackers on right now they ban someone using a macro on a keyboard when the SCII keyboard does the same thing???
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
August 23 2010 20:24 GMT
#75
seems like a big fat fake
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"If you can chill....chill!"
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
August 23 2010 20:24 GMT
#76
Well I am using a G15 without any macros at all, so i would be kinda pissed if something happened.

Can't really see any feasible ways that macros could help me in this game anyhow.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 23 2010 20:28 GMT
#77
I really like the thread title
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
August 23 2010 20:33 GMT
#78
I hope this is true.
I don't like the idea of someone using macros against me that's kinda lame.
As long as they are consistent and ban people who use "sc2" keyboards when laddering too.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
OhNoItsTheMunch
Profile Joined June 2009
United States96 Posts
August 23 2010 20:35 GMT
#79
Fake story or not, I dont think anyone is questioning the ethical implications of macros: they're cheating. However I do agree that if blizz is going to adopt such a policy, a little notice then a story like this would be appreciated, and it definitely does not warrant making the individual have to buy another copy of the game; they do that enough with the exclusion of cross realm play. I try to keep faith in blizz through some of this but they're making it difficult. Activision is poison.
Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
August 23 2010 20:38 GMT
#80
it's not about the fact that macros are bad...it's just very hard for me to believe blizzard would ban somebody without a warning or anything just because they want to
especially if you think about WoW and the razor keyboard
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