EPTBliz warming up the pimp hand? - Page 13
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Cragfire
United States34 Posts
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
Macros are cheating. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
i have the logitech g110 good thing, i have no clue how to create macros on it! hehehe >=D i just got it because it had cool backlighting and was the cheapest of the logitech gaming keyboards. | ||
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PTZ.
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:00 SOCOMICEPICK wrote: AND I WAS JUST PROMOTED INTO PLATINUM!!! I HAD A 82-45 w/l ratio I think he is lying. User was warned for this post | ||
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cyprin
United States1105 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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Gezz
United Kingdom81 Posts
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Gourmand
Canada101 Posts
I don't mind banning for stuff like this or that ban for people hacking single players. But i really wish Blizzard made it clear to every of what can ban you. Because i wouldn't have guess that macro keyboard and hacking the single player would get your account banned. | ||
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
When Blizzard stamps their name and the logo of Starcraft II on a keyboard that promotes macros, a keyboard that even labels specific keys for race-specific macros, that only muddies the macro waters further. http://steelseries.com/products/games/starcraft-ii/steelseries-zboard-limited-edition-starcraft-ii#header I suspect that Blizzard keeps mum about what they'll specifically ban people for because they want to limit the number of legal suits against them, and by keeping the waters muddied most people will steer clear of what is otherwise perfectly legal. I would think their efforts are spent mostly on the hacks that most threaten battle.net's credibility, these being cheats that grant you vision, make units build faster, etc. A utility by Logitech/Razer/Microsoft/Steelseries that lets you record a sequence of keystrokes so one keystroke == add selected units to a control group, doubtful. However, Blizzard hasn't stated decisively one way or the other on it, have they? But when you have Razer plastering their logo alongside Blizzard's at events like GSL, I doubt using products that Blizzard has blessed, implicitly or otherwise, will get you banned. TL:DR - Blizzard is calling our bluff, betting that not enough rich kids have parent litigious enough to cost them more than they are making off branding macro-friendly game peripherals. Use common sense and limit your macros to duplicating several keys at most unless you are gunning for a legal showdown with Blizzard/Activision. If so, do up a macro that does the first 4 minutes of your build order lol. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
On October 16 2010 10:47 Mohdoo wrote: If you press 1 key, it needs to only issue 1 key worth of action. Anything more than that is downright cheating. Blizzard endorsed keyboards that let you bind certain keys to other buttons is not the same thing as sets of commands. If there's a quote saying that in any TERMS OF AGREEMENT for said product, then legally yes you are right. Otherwise failure to disclose any limitations of use of product is liable to litigation. So basically if Blizzard puts it's name on a keyboard that allows you to assign 20000 actions to a single keypress, but doesn't say doing something retarded like this will ban you from battle.net, they expose themselves to a legal liability. That's all I'm saying. Blizzard seems inclined to make $$$ off putting their name on product, while remaining purposefully obtuse about what exactly constitutes cheating. The common reference on these forums is "a 1:1 key rebind is ok" as you mentioned, but no one ever quotes a definitive Blizzard source saying so, as you also failed to do. The battle.net EULA states the following: Additional License Limitations. The license granted to you in Section 1 is subject to the limitations set forth in Sections 1 and 2 (collectively, the "License Limitations"). Any use of the Service or any Game in violation of the License Limitations will be regarded as an infringement of Blizzard's copyrights in and to the Service and/or Game. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: [a] 1. use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Service, any Game or any Game experience;[/b] Where does rebinding X number of keys to just one key fit in the above limitation? What exactly is "automation"? What are the authorized 3rd-party software? See? We're all just guessing here. Basically, enjoy the freaking game. If you want to use a G110, Blackwidow, Naga, G500, et al, to make your life in SC2 a little easier, go for it. Blizzard very likely considers you not worth their trouble. If you want to use a G110, Blackwidow, Naga or G500 to automate a build order, spam garbage to your opponent to distract him, etc, then yeah you're probably gunning for a ban. In either case Blizzard doesn't consider you a likely cause to increase their legal expense. More probable are Chinese counterfeiters pimping Blizzard/SC2 logos. | ||
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.Aar
2177 Posts
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
A macro is simply a command. You can activate the command by binding the macro to a key. The command can be an instruction, so when it's activated, several other actions are carried out. The command can also be a single action. When it's a single action, it can also be called simply a key bind or just bind, but it is less commonly used because it is very informal. So there are two macros, multiple action, and single action. Stop treating it like macros only allow multiple actions. Blizzard has stated its rule. 1 key = 1 action. It was in their F.A.Q. about macros that I cannot find. Macros do not break this rule, unless you think macros simply mean multiple actions. Players set up macros to do multiple things at once. They can easily set up a macro to do one thing. It would be useless however. Bottom line. Macros do NOT ALWAYS perform multiple actions. They can perform a single action, which is what I believe Blizzard endorses. This supports my claim, but is not the one I mentioned *Note: Any macro used to automate game play is strictly prohibited. + Show Spoiler + http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20422&pageNumber=1&searchQuery=macro | ||
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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
lmao User was warned for this post | ||
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gundream
United States229 Posts
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
On October 16 2010 11:06 .Aar wrote: Wait, so if you use their keyboard and do the exact same thing you won't get banned? Are you sure that's what they meant? I never implied such a thing. If you use "their" keyboard, I would imagine you're just as likely to get hit with the banstick as with any other keyboard that supports macros. The overall point is: "BLIZZARD IS PURPOSEFULLY VAGUE" about what constitutes a ban, because any attempt to delineate what is and isn't ban-worthy would expose Blizzard/Activision to legal action from parties that would purport not to have contravened whatever line Blizzard chose to draw in the sand. So, sensibly, Blizzard chooses to draw no such line. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Best line is: AND I WAS JUST PROMOTED INTO PLATINUM!!! I HAD A 82-45 w/l ratio User was warned for this post | ||
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