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ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
August 24 2010 17:10 GMT
#201
blizzard already made macro easier for the noobs and u still go and do something like this lol
fuck lag
mangina
Profile Joined March 2008
United States230 Posts
August 24 2010 17:13 GMT
#202
oh damn... thats crazy
i have a gamepad that i use to macro things to
but stuff like music and all so i dont have to minimize and create lag and loading time
but damn... i kinda dont like what blizzard did here :T
SilentGem
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1 Post
August 24 2010 17:29 GMT
#203
I use a macro that hits CTRL+F1 = select all idle workers because it's far too stressing for my hand to hit CTRL+F1 on my keyboard manually.

I did not know there actually was (mentally impaired) people around that would consider this as 'cheating'. HAH! Good thing I don't give two shits. I'll continue using my macros and key re-mappings via script as I please.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
August 24 2010 17:31 GMT
#204
On August 25 2010 02:29 SilentGem wrote:
I use a macro that hits CTRL+F1 = select all idle workers because it's far too stressing for my hand to hit CTRL+F1 on my keyboard manually.

I did not know there actually was (mentally impaired) people around that would consider this as 'cheating'. HAH! Good thing I don't give two shits. I'll continue using my macros and key re-mappings via script as I please.


This is not cheating according to the current policy. One keystroke = one action.

Wish someone would put that in the OP or something... =/
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 24 2010 17:57 GMT
#205
I completely agree with Blizzard's stance on no-macros as it's an unfair advantage.

However, I think completely banning you with no warning and forcing you to buy another CD-key i sa bit much imo. They should've just warned you, gave you time to comply, and if you refused, wiped ur ladder stats. Then if you continued to use macros, then erase your key/ban you. There needs to be a process not an insta-ban imo.
pikezeppelin
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden27 Posts
August 24 2010 18:07 GMT
#206
Can someone make a list of gaming keyboards/mouses with no macro support? Whitelist or something

Ofc you could buy non gaming gear, but these don't have as good response/precision as gaming ones.
Rea
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 18:18:03
August 24 2010 18:17 GMT
#207
On August 24 2010 04:00 SOCOMICEPICK wrote:
So i was banned last friday for using " Third party hardware that creates an unfair advantage"

news next week:
"blizzards bans million of sc2 accounts for using 16: 9 monitors which gave an unfair advantage over 5:4/4:3 user"
(`.*(C=(`.´Q)
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 24 2010 18:20 GMT
#208
Damn straight! ^^'

Okay, they could've at least warn you or sth. but using Macro's IS cheating and IMHO not much better than using some kind of hack...
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 24 2010 18:23 GMT
#209
Ban everybody who does anything stupid. I'm on board with it. I hate anytime people plead ignorance on a subject. It's the same people in WoW who abuse a bug to obtain something then act surprised when their shit is taken away or account is banned. These are the same people who make stupid names that can be reported then complain because their name of Analbag has to be changed.

Rule #1: Don't do stupid shit that could bite you in the ass.
Rule #2: Repeat rule #1 until you don't forget it.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17255 Posts
August 24 2010 18:23 GMT
#210
On August 24 2010 04:04 mahnini wrote:
pretty awesome if that's true. kind of doubt blizzard would ban macros without warning though seeing as how they endorse macro keyboards for WoW and such.

You're actually completely prohibited from using the kind of macros many people are doing. Many people have had their WoW accounts banned for attempting it and that dates back years.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 18:28:24
August 24 2010 18:27 GMT
#211
On August 25 2010 03:07 pikezeppelin wrote:
Can someone make a list of gaming keyboards/mouses with no macro support? Whitelist or something

Ofc you could buy non gaming gear, but these don't have as good response/precision as gaming ones.


Merits of gaming gear aside, any keyboard or mouse with macro support is fine to use with sc2. Just don't use the functionality of your hardware/software to break the 1 keystroke = 1 action rule.

Besides, macro functionality is considered common place in gaming peripherals (and medium-to-high end computing input devices in general) so you'll be hard pressed to find a mainstream "gaming" input device that doesn't support macros either in hardware or software.

(There are exceptions to this, of course, notably the steelseries 7g/6gv2 and other mechanical keyboards sold by elitekeyboards, deck, das, etc., but don't let macro functionality keep you from buying a product.)
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
August 26 2010 08:46 GMT
#212
**

I am pretty sure they way blizz detect macros is when they detect a keystroke from you and see that 2 actions are going on with millisecond delay. Even the highest apms have milliseconds between hitting their macro button and their units. When blizz sees a game where someones gateways and zealots are being built with near 0 delay between keystroke they get suspicious.

So if you are using "fishy" hardware, i'm sure you have nothing to worry about.
Coaching for 1v1 and Team games at Gosucoaching.com
Tone_
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom554 Posts
August 26 2010 09:03 GMT
#213
On August 24 2010 04:03 Iggyhopper wrote:
Banning his key so he has to spend another $60 is not right. No warning either? For shame.


If I was using a macro keyboard and got an insta-ban I'd shit a brick.
Hasta La Victoria Siempre | 톤
Orange Goblin
Profile Joined May 2010
218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 13:43:30
August 26 2010 13:41 GMT
#214
On August 25 2010 02:04 -zoom- wrote:
You deserve a punishment put a ban is by far too harsh. Maybe a suspension for like a day with a warning would be fine but that it a bit over the top.


For cheating? Are you kidding me?

Cheating should result in a permanent ban the instant it's found out. Nobody cheats without knowing what they're doing is detrimental to the game, and that it's a complete dick move overall. You always know it's an unfair advantage.
wacksteven
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States139 Posts
August 26 2010 13:44 GMT
#215
I wonder, does this apply to mapping a key to one of your mouse buttons, too? I have alt mapped to my thumb button on my mouse to see health bars. O_o
Former War3/BW/ET/UT2k4 Shoutcaster and now: an all-around, super-huggable old guy. Co-King of Tin with @djWHEAT, available on twitter @wacksteven @KingsOfTin
Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
August 26 2010 14:50 GMT
#216
On August 26 2010 22:44 wacksteven wrote:
I wonder, does this apply to mapping a key to one of your mouse buttons, too? I have alt mapped to my thumb button on my mouse to see health bars. O_o


according to the pic in the op: no

as long as you press 1 button and get 1 action it should be fine, at least i hope so, binded the key next to the "1"-key to backspace (Town Camera) today ...
rezzor
Profile Joined August 2010
El Salvador64 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 15:38:26
August 26 2010 15:37 GMT
#217
Blizzard should at least warn before they ban (concerning macros), I mean it's not a hard decision to make: keep using macros or getting your account banned. Though it is cheating it isn't cheating in the same kinda way like map hacking.
Viva la Revolución!
Jimb0v
Profile Joined September 2010
11 Posts
September 15 2010 18:50 GMT
#218
How about a macro that 1) turns your keyboard green when the inject larvae is on cooldown, 2) blinks your keyboard different colors when it is about to be up, and 3) turns you keyboard red when the coolodwn is available. Would that be permissible?
Orion_2kTC
Profile Joined May 2010
United States80 Posts
September 15 2010 20:45 GMT
#219
I wonder if you can setup next action keys. So for instance each press allows another action to complete.

Example:

First hit selects your grouped engineer bays.
Second hit types 'A' for the armor upgrade.
Third hit types 'E' For weapon upgrade.

You still have to hit the key 3 times but you only have to worry about one key instead of 3. *shrug* Just a thought.
EvilAlien
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1 Post
September 15 2010 22:38 GMT
#220
Okay, this thread was linked from the EU forums on starcraft2.com. I was also wondering about macros does and don'ts in Sc2 so I asked the tech support about the razer and steelseries keyboards/mouses (please note: not the keyboard mentioned by OP) and I thought other people in this thread could benefit from the answer I received so here it goes.

(Please note: I did this research for the sake of the debate, I do not use macros myself.)

[image loading]

Even if it doesn't the mention the keyboard of the OP I still hope this information could be useful, just passing it along.

As long as it puts money in blizzards pocket, huh?
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