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VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
August 24 2010 06:39 GMT
#161
I used a macro for lost viking....

So long TL, it's been swell! *wink*
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
August 24 2010 06:43 GMT
#162
Any particular reason a WoW gm is emailing you about being banned from SC2?

I think someone's a little upset they got cheating, and macros are cheating. Fabricated story because he's mad.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
August 24 2010 07:51 GMT
#163
On August 24 2010 04:03 Iggyhopper wrote:
Macros are cheap. I support Blizzard's decision but only if they are overbearing and not abusive. Banning his key so he has to spend another $60 is not right. No warning either? For shame.

Why warning? It is common knowledge that macros and third party stuff is not allowed. Any warning would make the penalty too soft and a harsh penalty is the only way to deter people from cheating in a sport.

The one real problem I see is that Blizzard needs to be sure they are not making a mistake themselves. They need their evidence to be 100% foolproof. If they have sufficient proof on cheats just ban the key and thats it.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
ReactoR
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden72 Posts
August 24 2010 08:04 GMT
#164
On August 24 2010 04:04 mahnini wrote:
pretty awesome if that's true. kind of doubt blizzard would ban macros without warning though seeing as how they endorse macro keyboards for WoW and such.


WoW has built in macro-functionality so it's not entirely the same thing. I do think they should warn first tho, since many will probably crossover from WoW to SC2 and are used to macros.
SOCOMICEPICK
Profile Joined August 2010
87 Posts
August 24 2010 08:04 GMT
#165
On August 24 2010 15:43 Sinensis wrote:
Any particular reason a WoW gm is emailing you about being banned from SC2?

I think someone's a little upset they got cheating, and macros are cheating. Fabricated story because he's mad.



im not saying the dude isn't trolling people we really have no way of knowing....but why would you just make that up out of the blue?....but the emails have nothing to do with him, they are responses that were to people in this thread when they asked....totally unrelated to the guy in the link.
"Whoever said "Money can't buy happiness" never had money in the first place."
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
August 24 2010 08:07 GMT
#166
i love that they are banning macro users

now just ban hackers!

Blizzard will probably do a huge swipe like they did with D2. Can't imagine why they couldn't stop it earlier.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
August 24 2010 08:12 GMT
#167
if you were using a macro then i don't see what your problem is with blizzard. you were cheating and punished.. job well done.
rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
August 24 2010 08:13 GMT
#168
On August 24 2010 04:50 Spyridon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 04:28 Merikh wrote:
So that means I can't bind my "backspace" to my "F1" key ?

Going to make a post on the sc2 forums to verify.


That's not a macro, that's setting your button to a single key.

Blizzard considers a "macro" an "automation".


This means I'll have no problems if I set keys 7-0 to my G-Keys on my g15?
wanted to do this for easier access to the last controlgroups because I just have smaller hands than other people...
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
August 24 2010 08:24 GMT
#169
This seems good. This also gives the impression that they wont go easy on maphackers either. I love you blizzard.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Fritzkefit
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany79 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 08:29:51
August 24 2010 08:29 GMT
#170


Sando
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia5 Posts
August 24 2010 08:36 GMT
#171

This means I'll have no problems if I set keys 7-0 to my G-Keys on my g15?
wanted to do this for easier access to the last controlgroups because I just have smaller hands than other people...


Yeah you'll be fine.

Don't set them to do something like select your nexus and build probes.

It's that AND that gets you.
Anon06
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
August 24 2010 08:48 GMT
#172
heh yet map hackers run rampant.
Uriel_SVK
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia427 Posts
August 24 2010 09:16 GMT
#173
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Just kidding


I do not believe that blizzard would ban non-blizzard keyboards with macro support. If you imagine all the problems that microsoft had because using Internet Explorer as default browser in Windows. And that was just default, it was not that we could use ONLY microsoft browser for browsing internet. Companies creating keyboards with macro support could sue blizzard.
I might be wrong, but I do not believe blizzard would be so evil. I would believe (and support) if they banned ALL macro keyboard, but banning players without warning is just not right.
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
August 24 2010 09:45 GMT
#174
Anyone here actually tried the macro capabilities of the new Marauder keyboard? It would be extremely funny to find out that the macros work only in SP once the thing goes out into the market :D
Not enough energy
BillyMole
Profile Joined March 2010
United States118 Posts
August 24 2010 10:53 GMT
#175
On August 24 2010 18:16 Uriel_SVK wrote:
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Just kidding


I do not believe that blizzard would ban non-blizzard keyboards with macro support. If you imagine all the problems that microsoft had because using Internet Explorer as default browser in Windows. And that was just default, it was not that we could use ONLY microsoft browser for browsing internet. Companies creating keyboards with macro support could sue blizzard.
I might be wrong, but I do not believe blizzard would be so evil. I would believe (and support) if they banned ALL macro keyboard, but banning players without warning is just not right.


Again, they are not banning people with macro keyboards, I have one myself. They are banning people who USE the macro keyboards to cheat ingame. It is clearly, CLEARLY spelled out in multiple places that using macros is cheating, and Warden can tell the difference between you just having a macro-capable keyboard and you actually using the macros.

I really don't know why this is even a discussion, macros give you a cheater's edge that can be every bit as potent as a maphack. No, they should not, and should never, issue warnings to cheaters, they should key-ban them immediately, as long as they have proof that they cheated. Make them spend $60 every time they get caught, that'll thin out the cheaters really quick.

I've seen posts from people claiming that they let a "friend" play, the friend cheated, and they got banned. Even if that's true (and I think it's often a lie), then you:

1) Violated the EULA by sharing your account, so you'll get no sympathy from anyone
2) Apparently weren't paying attention to what your "friend" was doing, and let him install cheat software
but more importantly 3) Rather than taking your $60 out of the person responsible, which would be your "friend," you choose to whine that Blizzard is being unfair.

Grow up. If there was a friend and he got you banned, he owes you 60 bucks. Make him pay up or kick him to the curb. It's the equivalent of you letting him borrow your car only to find he scratched the door while he used it.
Uriel_SVK
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia427 Posts
August 24 2010 11:11 GMT
#176
On August 24 2010 19:53 BillyMole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 18:16 Uriel_SVK wrote:
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding


I do not believe that blizzard would ban non-blizzard keyboards with macro support. If you imagine all the problems that microsoft had because using Internet Explorer as default browser in Windows. And that was just default, it was not that we could use ONLY microsoft browser for browsing internet. Companies creating keyboards with macro support could sue blizzard.
I might be wrong, but I do not believe blizzard would be so evil. I would believe (and support) if they banned ALL macro keyboard, but banning players without warning is just not right.


Again, they are not banning people with macro keyboards, I have one myself. They are banning people who USE the macro keyboards to cheat ingame. It is clearly, CLEARLY spelled out in multiple places that using macros is cheating, and Warden can tell the difference between you just having a macro-capable keyboard and you actually using the macros.



So Razer an SteelSeries Keyboards are just BanBaits? They are made especially for Starcraft 2, and they have programable macro keys.

Can you put a source where is said that it is forbidden? Tried to find it, but could not...
Darkybald
Profile Joined April 2010
46 Posts
August 24 2010 11:50 GMT
#177
well im using a macro to autospawn lava since the beta and did not get banned, the guy is talking bs. I think warden isn't even running and they just ban people getting reported...
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
August 24 2010 11:52 GMT
#178
Wow players got banned for using g keyboard macros to produce optimal DPS cycles in 2007. Over the years Blizzard has said a billion times binding 1 function to 1 key is okay. Nothing new here.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Orange Goblin
Profile Joined May 2010
218 Posts
August 24 2010 12:41 GMT
#179
On August 24 2010 04:17 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I hope they keep banning (or wiping accounts) of people who use macros, it's just cheating plain and simple. You want to have better macro, do it yourself!


I agree.

People defending macros are ridiculous. It's cheating. Get over it.
seikei
Profile Joined August 2010
United States5 Posts
August 24 2010 14:14 GMT
#180
Maybe this guy was clocking an insane 500 APM or something using his macros? I'm pretty sure not only would that be a pretty big advantage on any level of play, it'd also send up a red flag pretty quickly.
It's important to remember that about half of the average people you meet are below average.
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