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lololol
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Calneon
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
 . Loved the casting, way he said SO much damage in comedy British accent all the time was pretty funny. Felt like they knew what they were talking about, kept it interesting, and a bit of humour thrown in. Great mix imo, great event all round hope to see more like it soon! | ||
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Voros
United States222 Posts
apollo should stop using "rape" asap Between "rape," exclamations of "Jesus Christ," and using "gay" pejoratively at least once, he was far from professional. Apollo has a good voice and the personality to be a caster, but he's got plenty rough edges that will need some time to be ground off. And to be fair, Day9 spoke over Apollo quite a bit as well, which may be what happens when you put two amateur play-by-play guys with big personalities in the same booth. The casting scene in general is plagued by problems that you wouldn't see even in local tv/radio broadcasts, as professional sports casters are trained and understand the expectations viewers have of them. When you take a random extrovert off the street and ask him to do the job, he's naturally going to be in over his head for a long time, particularly if he doesn't have a mentor willing to show him the ropes. I'd love to see folks who have a background in radio and/or sportscasting take a leading role in SC2 casting and maybe even offer some tutorials in what to say and when to say it. I know that Total Biscuit is a radio pro, but aside from him, is there anyone in the English-language community who could meet that need? | ||
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Redx
Netherlands77 Posts
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
would have much rather listened to day9 and jp | ||
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shawabawa
United Kingdom417 Posts
On August 23 2010 20:16 Immersion_ wrote: Bit strange about the rape hate (lol), maybe it's a UK thing but it's a pretty inoffensive word used to describe any kind of ownage .Maybe in normal conversation, I use rape all the time when talking with my friends but even I did a double take when he said it. If you're casting something to such a large audience you really need to keep your language in check. Also he said "yeah definitely" way too much. I also didn't like how he would give orders to the players ("You need to do this now, please do this or he will destroy you") Day9 was pro as always | ||
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huxs
Sweden18 Posts
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
On August 23 2010 20:16 Immersion_ wrote: Bit strange about the rape hate (lol), maybe it's a UK thing but it's a pretty inoffensive word used to describe any kind of ownage . Loved the casting, way he said SO much damage in comedy British accent all the time was pretty funny. Felt like they knew what they were talking about, kept it interesting, and a bit of humour thrown in. Great mix imo, great event all round hope to see more like it soon!There are a lot of rape victims in the world, it's a word that isn't offensive to most men but I'd imagine anyone who's been thorough something like that wouldn't like to hear that word thrown around casually. | ||
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
But maybe one thing to the organizers (and as a comfort for those who couldn't attend and watched the stream): It was very, very hard to hear the casters, as there was so much noise in the hall and for some reason they didn't turn up the volume until the 3rd place match. Quite a disadvantage of watching it live. But the three big screens which always showed the observer view and the two opponents' views made up for that =D | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
Rape is an oft-used term in gaming, it's just an aspect of the culture - deal with it. | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
Just be natural. But yea for a real professional cast saying shit like rape or gay and other offensive internet Bnet slang isn't acceptable and sponsors who care about positive PR won't like that. Just keep that in mind. | ||
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
On August 23 2010 21:53 Dgiese wrote: Lighten up... why do you feel the need to rape their commentary. Rape is an oft-used term in gaming, it's just an aspect of the culture - deal with it. the longer you think like this the longer gaming will stay away from the mainstream | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
On August 19 2010 00:08 Necrosjef wrote: Day9 got some insight into what is going on. Apollo is just repeating what Day9 is saying and then saying what he is seeing. Sorry to make this look like criticism, but this is what i have seen everytime apollo was commenting. Kinda repeating what hard counters what all over the place for many times - it does get you carried away from the game. He s a nice guy, but as was said trying that too hard. Relax dude. | ||
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
At times, dApollo would get excited about something, which was good because it added to the enjoyability of the games, creating tension. But then, Day9 would cut in with like "...uhu. Yeah, and you can see here.. blah blah" in a way too calm voice. Breaking the tension. But generally I think they were pretty good, not sure what everyone is complaining about besides the above. | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On August 24 2010 02:59 benjammin wrote: the longer you think like this the longer gaming will stay away from the mainstream at what point did you ever stop to imagine esport and gaming to be an attractive medium towards the average teen and his mom? AT WHAT POINT did you ever think that people would view sc2 with the same eyes as baseball? soccer? american football? UFC? At what point did you ever think jocks and nerds would gather around grab a beer, watch the IEM championships together and then discuss the outcome? because at that point you fucking fooled yourself. Gaming and all other sports have its own language and its own culture. The day any sport tries to be something its not, is not only a sad day but also a day where it cuts away from its hardcore community. Sure you might gain, but the sacrifice is too costly. hmm, heres an example. Soccer for chicks. You dont watch it for the commentators or the strategical aspect of soccer, or because you enjoy soccer. heres another word for you: political correct, i dunno about you but the second someone mentions those two words i already hate the guy / girl. OP: I liked both casters, but i think their personalities are so similar that they clashed more often than not. They should discuss it with each others, give a sign for when you want the other to carry your momentum rather than stumble over each others over and over again. | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
On August 24 2010 03:33 Madkipz wrote: at what point did you ever stop to imagine esport and gaming to be an attractive medium towards the average teen and his mom? AT WHAT POINT did you ever think that people would view sc2 with the same eyes as baseball? soccer? american football? UFC? At what point did you ever think jocks and nerds would gather around grab a beer, watch the IEM championships together and then discuss the outcome? because at that point you fucking fooled yourself. Gaming and all other sports have its own language and its own culture. The day any sport tries to be something its not, is not only a sad day but also a day where it cuts away from its hardcore community. Sure you might gain, but the sacrifice is too costly. No one is trying to take away gaming culture. The point is that, in any sport, the commentators aren't going to be using the same language as players use amongst themselves in the locker room, that's pretty much a given. hmm, heres an example. Soccer for chicks. You dont watch it for the commentators or the strategical aspect of soccer, or because you enjoy soccer. Well there are plenty of women who enjoy soccer and other sports, just as there are girls that enjoy gaming. It seems like a fairly irrellevent point anyway. heres another word for you: political correct, i dunno about you but the second someone mentions those two words i already hate the guy / girl. You're the first person to mention those two words in this thread, so you must hate yourself? ... edited for clarity | ||
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tokalon
United States11 Posts
On August 23 2010 21:53 Dgiese wrote: Gaming and all other sports have its own language and its own culture. The day any sport tries to be something its not, is not only a sad day but also a day where it cuts away from its hardcore community. Sure you might gain, but the sacrifice is too costly. Seriously, that's your justification for co-opting a term that defines one of the most deplorable acts of humanity? I have a hard time believing that refraining from the use of "rape" in an e-sports commentary is detrimental to anyone. There are numerous aspects of e-sports worth championing then fighting for the right to marginalize rape survivors. In Weapon of Choice, I found Chill's comments about Day9's dominating co-casting tendencies to be interesting. I can definitely see a part of Day9's personality having a hard time sharing the spotlight. He probably really loves being the center of attention and it must be hard to take a backseat in a field that he is arguably the best and most successful at. To have to share last weekend with a caster no one has even heard of must have been doubly frustrating. Regardless, the IEM was such a great series. All that casting must have been exhausting and everyone did an amazing job coping and staying fresh considering. | ||
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alexanderzero
United States659 Posts
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
On August 23 2010 20:09 Calneon wrote: I think both casters did a great job, though I think Apollo needs to learn what alliteration means. I remember him twice saying, "I can't alliterate that enough", when he meant "emphasize". I noticed this too, but overall I think both guys are still more literate than most sports commentators out there. One thing they do need to work on is overuse of certain terms, Day9 describing every kind of harassment as 'obnoxious' and every mistake, whether large or small as a 'blunder' kind of dilutes those terms and sucks the meaning out of them. | ||
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