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Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
August 20 2010 12:56 GMT
#141
I wasn't annoyed by either of them (only watched the games played during day 3)
They covered most of the stuff that was happening micro and macro wise, they both made some good insights and accurate guessing (what y should do now that x has done this).
But most importantly they made games more exiting to watch.
Phrencys
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada270 Posts
August 20 2010 12:59 GMT
#142
On August 20 2010 21:44 cyprin wrote:
Criticism:
14/14 is standard for a reason vs terran as zerg.
Stop criticizing it, what do you want Idra to do, 6 pool?

Qualifying a build as standard is a Day9 trademark. He does this for every player who doesn't pull-off something crazy.

IdrA is also well known to have one single opener and sticking to it. If he ever opened with a 6-7 pool, you'd hear Shawn yell and drool all over the place.

On August 20 2010 21:44 cyprin wrote:
Sarens did the same thing every single game
Reapers into Hellions
Yes his followups were different
Maybe his timings were different
Stop hailing him as a genius of starcraft strategy.

They don't have anything to win by saying the player is a moron for sticking for his guns.

In Day9's KotB tournament, Day9 qualified Dimaga's play as "disappointing" when he stuck with speedling/blings to break an apparently impenetrable protoss wall-in he repeatedly rammed his head against.

He got quite shocked when half the protoss base blowed up.
Nullius Vaz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 17:41:29
August 20 2010 17:39 GMT
#143
Long time reader first time poster (I feel like this common line is the equivalent to an introduction in AA or rehab: hi my names Andrew and I've been addicted to cracklings for about 3 years now, first day sober)

I have to say I'm suprised they have dappolo doing this big of a tournament. I agree with what others said: day 9 does sound condescending when he mhm's and I think for good reason. Dappolo delivers in a crackly prepubescent squeal nothing that day hasn't already said or if he does it's often wrong/misinformed. You'll hear him repeating phrases that just don't fit and it makes it sound soo contrived. Overall it feels like what you'd get from an 8 year old trying to replicate a news anchor sitting in a cardboard box "tv"

sorry if this sounds a bit harsh it's just making it tough to enjoy these vids. I daresay I might even prefer husky to dapollo O.O

day9 you're still the man
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
August 20 2010 18:00 GMT
#144
I think they have done a great job so far. It´s obvious this the first time Dapollo casts a big event and its live...so overall I like what he have done. Give the kid some time and he will be a great caster for sure. He cant learn but good things from Sean.

Sean: You have been great as allways.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
August 20 2010 18:10 GMT
#145
Really good casting by both. Nothing sticks out as annoying and they give good insights and are enthousiastic, quality.

(that GLHF.tv tho.. bluescreen crashed my windows 7 twice.. yeah wtf never going there again)
here i am
wollhandkrabbe
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany97 Posts
August 20 2010 18:30 GMT
#146
On August 20 2010 13:14 Calmwinds wrote:
German interviewer just doesn't know English well, I mean he means well, and you can tell he does, he seems like a pretty nice guy overall, and people bashing him are just misinterpreting the way he is coming off, I'm pretty sure he doesn't know much about starcraft in general, but knows that terran imbalance is quite the talk, so he's trying to get the progamer feedback on it. Cut the guy some slack, sheesh.


He means well, but actually his german interviews sound quite the same. And his SC2 casts borderline painful IMO. I was so relieved when I heard they flew in the big guns to cast this tournament instead of letting ESL staff do it.
chekthehek
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
August 20 2010 19:22 GMT
#147
i dont see anything wrong with the casters. i really enjoyed watching them, i didnt notice anything wrong, but a lot of people really do enjoy crying over everything they have a chance to cry about.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
August 20 2010 19:29 GMT
#148
I felt that the casting by day9 and apollo was superb on day 3
dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
August 20 2010 19:38 GMT
#149
I enjoyed the casting a fair bit, they are getting better together with each game they cast;o
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
August 20 2010 19:39 GMT
#150
I'm fine with everything by day 3 except d.Apollo saying "SO" really really loud into his mic before every adjective.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 20 2010 19:42 GMT
#151
I like the casting fine, it's good banter, but I'd like some more emotional response, raise your voices when awesome stuff is happening!

This doesn't just apply to the casters though. I wish the players and the audience would be a little more animated as well. If you win a tough game, advancing to the semi finals, how about a shout and some fist pumping, and audience, let them hear it!
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
August 20 2010 20:57 GMT
#152
hopefully they've made an agreement on eye-dra or id-dra
Jagwolf
Profile Joined June 2010
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 23:23:09
August 20 2010 23:22 GMT
#153
So far the casting is pretty great. They've seem to become a lot more comfortable with each others casting styles.

The only thing I really heard that caught me kind of off guard from such a big tourny was appolo's use of the words "gay" and "rape". Now I understand hes a gamer and all of us for the most part say these words when referring to some kind of cheesy play or when talking about counters and what not. But I just felt like it was a little inappropriate for such a big event.

edit: apollo says "straight away" too much XD
Siffer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States467 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 23:43:37
August 20 2010 23:42 GMT
#154
I find Apollo to be extremely redundant and annoying to listen to.

He is either repeating things that Day9 says or is extremely vague. I also don't think he has a good casting voice. He stutters a lot and is too squeely. DJWheat/Day9 make a much better pair imo. Not only do they have great casting voices, but they fill proper roles. Wheat isn't an extremely analytical caster. He is basically the caster for the casual who will sometimes ask day questions. Day is the grizzled gamer vet who goes in depth and explains things. Apollo tries too hard to be analytical, when Day does 100x better job.
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
August 20 2010 23:42 GMT
#155
dapollo - over enthusiastic, chill a bit and you'll be better for it.

day9 - great as always? I may be a little bias, as I am a huge day9 fanboy.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 20 2010 23:43 GMT
#156
loved how apollo pointed out the little things like in that desert oasis map idra while being attacked still was making drones confident that he could hold off sarens attack. and then later the ultralisk and made sarens push out early. sick insight throughout. day 9 always good but why the hate on idra? so what if he does relatively the same build every time. zerg doesnt have 12 different openings...
Therapist..
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
August 21 2010 01:05 GMT
#157
Apollo is still a kid man, too nervous and awkward and keeps making assumptions during the games that turn out to be wrong. he's really weird to listen to. They should've hired another good caster along with Day9 such as JP or DJWheat. Day[9] is just tolerating Apollo right now.
orion27
Profile Joined June 2010
United States44 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 01:59:32
August 21 2010 01:59 GMT
#158
If my advice counts for anything, (which it probably doesn't ) I would tell apollo and day9 to have a conversation with each other rather than describing every single thing that is happening. If it was radio I would want a play by play, but I can see what's happening on the screen since I do believe day9 is controlling the screen movement and he's great at that.

Other than that little detail, I think both day and apollo are doing a awesome job together. It just keeps getting better.

On August 21 2010 05:57 Qwerty. wrote:
hopefully they've made an agreement on eye-dra or id-dra

I also hope they can decide on just one pronunciation of idra's name. At the same time though, it makes me chuckle. And I like to chuckle.
Streets Ahead
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 03:00:38
August 21 2010 02:59 GMT
#159
The OP has it down pat. Day9 is talking too much at times and doesn't leave enough room for Apollo to ease in. There is a lot of talking over here. For example, Apollo might be talking about something and when something exciting happens on screen, Day9 will yell, "OHHHH", cut Apollo off mid-sentence and insert his own thought.

I think you guys should make some sort of system to remedy this. Apollo talks for 30 seconds straight no matter what and then Day9 talks right after for 30 seconds straight no matter what. When something exciting happens whoever is not speaking at the moment of course can "OHHH!!!!!!" out of excitement but he ought to let the other person finish his 30 seconds.

The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:14:29
August 21 2010 16:28 GMT
#160
It's a bit disappointing that Day9 and Apollo haven't seen the games they didn't cast. Surely spending five minutes to discuss how untypical Idra's strategy vs Tarson on Blistering Sands was is unjustified, considering that he did exactly the same thing vs another Terran player two days ago - and it was on the same map as well.
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