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BumsenDK
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark137 Posts
July 07 2010 03:01 GMT
#1461
The thing that buggers me the most is that with real names and such my future potential employers will get to read what i write in my spare time, i dont want my employers to judge me on personal stuff, but on my skills at my work.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 03:09:16
July 07 2010 03:06 GMT
#1462
One important point which I don't believe has been relayed yet is that the switch to showing RealID on the forums will only happen with the new forum systems we're launching for StarCraft II shortly before its release, and a new forum system for World of Warcraft launching shortly before the release of Cataclysm.

All posts here on the current World of Warcraft forums, or any of our classic Battle.net forums, will remain as-is. They won't (and can't) automatically switch to showing a real first and last name.

All posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name.

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374700&sid=1&pageNo=34#667
This confuses me. I get that they're going to warn you before you post with your real name, but does that mean you can choose not to have your real name posted when you post? Somehow I doubt that's what's going to happen as it undermines the whole system. It seems more like you're in or you're out. Though I'm up for clarification on this.

I'm guessing he's just referring to how the old forums will still be kept the way they are.
sysrpl
Profile Joined February 2010
United States222 Posts
July 07 2010 03:07 GMT
#1463
I don't know if this was mentioned:

Everybody Knows Your Name
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 03:10:19
July 07 2010 03:09 GMT
#1464
On July 07 2010 12:07 sysrpl wrote:
I don't know if this was mentioned:

Everybody Knows Your Name


LOL thats awesome

Hopefully the 15000 posts or so on Blizzard forums will get them to understand. Of course, this only lowers my faith in Blizzard.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
July 07 2010 03:10 GMT
#1465
On July 07 2010 12:09 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 12:07 sysrpl wrote:
I don't know if this was mentioned:

Everybody Knows Your Name


LOL thats awesome


That is priceless.
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Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
July 07 2010 03:13 GMT
#1466
From what they have said, it's optional.
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eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
July 07 2010 03:15 GMT
#1467
man, what a bad idea. creating a fear of people knowing your a troll doucheface is not a replacement for a moderating system. on that note, kickass work TL, you guys keep this forum the place to be! i hope blizzard gets their act together, cause this is just silly.

and kind of douchy what they did to Bashiok (don't shoot the messenger), but I guess it proves the point.
How's the weather down there?
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
July 07 2010 03:15 GMT
#1468
On July 07 2010 12:13 Seam wrote:
From what they have said, it's optional.


It's optional to post, yes. But if you DO post, your real name will be displayed.
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InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 03:16:59
July 07 2010 03:15 GMT
#1469
RealID is not optional. They said "posting on the forums" is optional.

Just to respond to those that don't think we read through all of these responses and threads, we do and have been. We will continue monitoring feedback as well.

We put a lot of thought into this change and have a long-term vision for the Real ID service and wanted to make sure that we communicated ahead of time and very clearly as to what will be changing and how. Keep in mind that posting is optional, and we recognize that some players will choose not to utilize the Real ID feature in game or post on the forums and support everyone's individual choice on using or not using it.

This is obviously new ground for us and for you as well, but we want to make sure we're creating a great social-gaming service that people will want to use. We just want to make sure that if people are sharing feedback, that they keep it constructive, and yes, as I said, we are reading.


I EAGERLY await the shitstorm, in light of the fact that they have 11,000 posts and still say "too fucking bad".

Seriously, fuck that response.
i keep going back to my response to chill's fake PM and laughing, then immediately getting a feeling that i assume i'd get if i had an orgasm and the girl said "hahaha guess what i have a dick" -FakeSteve
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 07 2010 03:15 GMT
#1470
On July 07 2010 12:13 Seam wrote:
From what they have said, it's optional.


Unless I read something wrong I believe they said quite the opposite.
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JHancho
Profile Joined May 2010
United States166 Posts
July 07 2010 03:15 GMT
#1471
On July 07 2010 12:01 Erock wrote:
http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/blizzards-responses-on-the-real-id-situation/


They say they are going to be reading. I bet they'll be reading after the launch happens. I mean, it's been up for less than a day, and there are already 13000 + posts. Let me say that again in plain english. Thirteen THOUSAND posts. In just 11 hours. See where it began: WoW forums

And that youtube clip cracked me up. I've always loved the hitler stuff.
Take it easy. And if it is easy, it must be cheese
Noggin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
July 07 2010 03:15 GMT
#1472
On July 07 2010 12:13 Seam wrote:
From what they have said, it's optional.

Posting on the forums is optional.

The name under which you post, however, is not.


I heard Bnet 3.0 requires your character name to be identical to your social security number.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 07 2010 03:16 GMT
#1473
So the real Id feature is only for your real friends in game, But if you want to post something online, you have to display your real name? That makes sense. As does the blatant TOS violation on their part. Battle.net is a joke, and apparently anything remotely connected to it is quickly going down hill.

At this rate it would appear that the thing that will stop sc2 as a major esport is blizzard itself.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8750 Posts
July 07 2010 03:16 GMT
#1474
On July 07 2010 11:09 StreetHeat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
In much the same way that pasting [Bullies' Names] on their chests in school somehow decreases their bullying?

A bully will continue to be a bully, a troll will continue to be a troll. There is no way any logical train of thought can result in the assumption that an undesirable poster will decrease their undesirable activity when they are still provided a certain degree of separation from their intended target.

Arguments against providing real life names aside (which are valid) - [Cairneey] still remains as anonymous to me as [Joe Schmo] - and [Joe Schmo] knows this and will continue to act accordingly.

In short - there are no more repercussions for undesirable posters with this new system than there are now, given the above.

In fact, just as much would be accomplished if all forum posters were relegated to posting on one and only one character, with the option to show (but not post on) other characters on their account with the click of a button on their avatar.

There is no need to use real-life names, even if creating a larger social network is what is intended. If someone sees me on the forums and wishes to talk with me in game, there is already an avenue for that. If things go well and we mutually decide to ramp up our relationship to exchange personal information - including real-life names - there's already an avenue for that.

So the challenge, I guess, is explaining to everyone just how having real-life names will offer any improvement at all to the system already in place. 'Lifting the veil of anonymity' is not an argument and is hollow at best. Providing a more social environment is also not an argument, seeing as how we have the ability to do so right now - at our own pace and at our own discretion.

¸..• '¨¨)) -:¦:-
¸.•' .•'¨¨)) Frejya -:¦:-
((¸¸.•' ...•' -:¦:-


This is prob one of the most logical posts Ive seen on the subject posted by one of the wow forum MVPs


Ugh that writing is like fingernails on a blackboard. I guess we should all try to be content with paragraphs, punctuation and capitalization. Any higher standards than those will guarantee disappointment.

Lifting the veil of anonymity encourages people to behave consistently online and in person. I've never heard of anyone being mean in person but nice online. But of course there are many people who are nice in person but mean online. People are worried about their forum posts being in a public record because of job opportunities or academic opportunities or what friends/families would think of them. (Many of these people are against Blizzard's change because of this. They realize that if they continue to behave the way they do, which they like to do, they'd have negative consequences.) They would act more respectfully and politely or they wouldn't participate at all. They wouldn't automatically use a gaming forum as their outlet for being a disrespectful asshole.

It does provide a more social environment for some people because using an alias and having a default state of anonymity are childish aspects of the gaming world. They deter people from having a normal social experience. Every respectable pastime involves people using real identities with each other. It's natural that a person who doesn't care about a thing like that, such as Frejya, needs someone to explain it to them.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
July 07 2010 03:16 GMT
#1475
i think the 'option' is just parental control so you either use the forums or you don't
How's the weather down there?
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
July 07 2010 03:21 GMT
#1476
On July 07 2010 11:54 Xiphiass wrote:
Sums everything up -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiauaGbxipA


lolololol it cannot be this bad xD
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 07 2010 03:22 GMT
#1477
Bad Blizzard... really bad, worst idea ever. I will NOT be using the official forums. Though truth be told TL is much better anyway
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Potato Tree
Profile Joined June 2010
16 Posts
July 07 2010 03:22 GMT
#1478
Maybe this whole scenario is something along the lines of chocolate rations in 1984. Blizzard is going to give us something insanely bad, like the name thing, and we'll all forget about the crap from before like the lack of privacy that was inherent in battlenet originally. Then they will say something like "oh you guys are right, we'll take down the real name thing" and everybody will cheer and say how great they were when things actually got worse overall. I know a lot of people here have faith in blizzard and love them very much, but I have not known them as long and so far I am not impressed.

I felt that the emphasis of privacy was zero while playing the beta. I really don't want people that I add as friends to see who my other friends are. I also do not want to show when I played and how much I played, if I'm online or not (maybe there was an appear offline mode that I missed), and I do not want people to know my real name.

This has probably already been posted, but is there anything preventing people from making a new email account with a fake name?

I think I'll have 3 options for choosing a fake name:
1. something really epic, like Batman bin Suparman
2. name of someone I hate. maybe my boss
3. girls name
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
July 07 2010 03:23 GMT
#1479
On July 07 2010 12:13 Seam wrote:
From what they have said, it's optional.

The option is wether or not you want your character name displayed in addition to your real name, but you cannot take your real name off the forums if you post there. The option is to use the forums or not.

Judging by the poll in the OP, looks like only 15% of SC2 players will be using their forum.
Beware The Proxy Pool Rush
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
July 07 2010 03:23 GMT
#1480
I'm not saying this is the right move by blizz (it's not), but did any of you honestly use the official forums anyway? I avoided them like the plaguuu because they are full of trash. Yes this new system will stop spam and maybe bad behavior because blizz can ban their real id from posting, but it won't stop the 12 year old terds (not all 12 year olds, just the terds) from making and replying posts of nothing but trash, or bad advice.

I personally would rather stick to other better moderated forums even if blizzard does eliminate spam and abuse.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
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