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Disregard
China10252 Posts
Most importantly a decent AM3 mobo that isnt too pricey, lets say around no more than $100. Any recommendations? Gonna swap out the DDR2 RAM too, pretty much an overhaul except for my GPU and PSU(Sapphire 4770 and 650W EarthWatts). I dont really have much of a problem with cooling, during those really hot-humid days here. Ive done a few tests under-load my GPU usually maxes out at 60C(Usually goes down when I set my fan to 80% Speed, usually kept at 50%) and my CPU around 50C. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
On July 14 2010 15:04 Disregard wrote: Going to purchase Phenom X4 965 off of newegg around Fall, not sure about the X6 right now... though its $200 with free-shipping. Most importantly a decent AM3 mobo that isnt too pricey, lets say around no more than $100. Any recommendations? Gonna swap out the DDR2 RAM too, pretty much an overhaul except for my GPU and PSU(Sapphire 4770 and 650W EarthWatts). I dont really have much of a problem with cooling, during those really hot-humid days here. Ive done a few tests under-load my GPU usually maxes out at 60C(Usually goes down when I set my fan to 80% Speed, usually kept at 50%) and my CPU around 50C. I would get a 945 / 955BE, with a little overclocking they can get the clocks of a 965 with stock voltage and cooling. If you are going to use the PC to play games, no use in getting the X6. Motherboards I would get for that money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431&Tpk=gigabyte 770t http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138163 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131406&cm_re=asus_m_evo-_-13-131-406-_-Product Those are good mb's. But it depends on what you are going to plug into them or how many of their features you will use. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
On July 14 2010 15:04 Disregard wrote: Going to purchase Phenom X4 965 off of newegg around Fall, not sure about the X6 right now... though its $200 with free-shipping. Most importantly a decent AM3 mobo that isnt too pricey, lets say around no more than $100. Any recommendations? Gonna swap out the DDR2 RAM too, pretty much an overhaul except for my GPU and PSU(Sapphire 4770 and 650W EarthWatts). I dont really have much of a problem with cooling, during those really hot-humid days here. Ive done a few tests under-load my GPU usually maxes out at 60C(Usually goes down when I set my fan to 80% Speed, usually kept at 50%) and my CPU around 50C. Are you going to be doing much overclocking? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.436925 is a decent combo deal with a decent board for overclocking. Otherwise you can just get an ASRock board or something. Some people like Biostar boards though they don't have much of a reputation in the US. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.444546 Is ok too if you don't want to overclock. The Phenom II X4 965 is really a bit of a waste. It's just a 955 with a +1 multiplier and since both are black edition, there is really no reason to get a Phenom II X4 965 unless you are concerned with binning (and that is only a concern for extreme overclockers). You can get the same performance as the 965 with the 955 easily. | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
 $235 - AMD Phenom II X4 955 CPU + MSI 870A-G54 Motherboard Combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.445122 $145 - Corsair 650w PSU + Samsung 1TB 7200RPM HDD Combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.431396 $265 - Sapphire HD5770 + Windows 7 Combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.437534.14-102-898 $155 - GSkill 4GB DDR3-1600 SDRAM + Lian Li Lancool PC-K58W Case Combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.432114 $65 - LITEON Blu-ray Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106326 = $865 + tax/shipping = ~$1000 shipped | ||
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nineninja9
United States194 Posts
How necessary is a bluray drive for you? Also, it might be beneficial to wait a little while before going through with your purchase, since prices on ati graphics cards might drop some time soon. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On July 14 2010 15:26 IntoTheWow wrote: And also important, what monitor and at what resolution :p Still on Hanns-G 19" Widescreen, native 1440x900.  I should really get a 24", its becoming the standard nowadays but I'll probably need a new GPU. On July 14 2010 15:34 FragKrag wrote: Are you going to be doing much overclocking? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.436925 is a decent combo deal with a decent board for overclocking. Otherwise you can just get an ASRock board or something. Some people like Biostar boards though they don't have much of a reputation in the US. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.444546 Is ok too if you don't want to overclock. The Phenom II X4 965 is really a bit of a waste. It's just a 955 with a +1 multiplier and since both are black edition, there is really no reason to get a Phenom II X4 965 unless you are concerned with binning (and that is only a concern for extreme overclockers). You can get the same performance as the 965 with the 955 easily. I have never OC'ed before, dont have experience with it. Never seen it done... though it has become quite simple. My CPU right now is a E6420, its great for OCing but I never bothered. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On July 14 2010 15:18 R04R wrote: 4770 will be a bit of a bottleneck though. What games will you be playing? I play my fair share of games, but not Crysis tier. But I would say I need a upgrade later. The 4770 is fine for now, best to replace my ancient E6420 and the mobo that doesnt even support PCI-E 2.0. Not that it really matters, the 4770 still runs fine on just good old PCI-E. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
I got a new setup: CLICK ME Sapphire HD5850 TOXIC (still went this one since the one fragkrag suggested was only 5€ cheaper) Intel® Core™ i5-750 - cause of the comments I went from X6-> i5, apparently better for games and about 90€ cheaper. MSI P55-GD65 - dont know nothing about motherboards, this one seemed fine - Tell me if you have better suggestions XFX XPS 850W Black Edition - as recommended by FragKrag Antec Twelve Hundred - Big Tower, got excellent reviews everywhere Western Digital WD6400AADS 640 GB - are there faster/better ones than this? Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1333 Quad-Kit LG DH-16NS (=13,49€ dvd drive) +90€ for Windows 7 What do you guys think?? Thx for the help already given, appreciate it, I think I already have a better AND cheaper system than before | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
As for the hard drive, the Western Digital Caviar Blacks have the fastest access times of the HDDs available (excluding the 10k RPM Velociraptor), but the Samsung F3 1TB generally has much faster sequential read/write. It's really up to you, but they are both about the same price and the F3 offers more storage space http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Festplatte/Samsung/HD103SJ_1_TB/136219/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Festplatten&l2=SATA&l3=3,5 Zoll | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
Motherboard is fine? On July 15 2010 02:04 Disregard wrote: Im hoping I could get Windows 7 for free since Im a CS major. What bugs me is that I already have Win7 on my laptop, so I find it really stupid that I have to buy windows 7 again since it was preinstalled and I didnt get a CD with it. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
Just dl the cd from microsoft.com msdn network or something. Also it's odd for you not to get the CD usually it's there but in a skin like called Dell recovery CD or w.e. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
On July 15 2010 02:51 7mk wrote: ok thx fragkrag, I think I'm gonna get the samsung hdd then and I think my setup is pretty much complete then. Motherboard is fine? What bugs me is that I already have Win7 on my laptop, so I find it really stupid that I have to buy windows 7 again since it was preinstalled and I didnt get a CD with it. The GD65 is a fairly solid motherboard that has some good features and SLI/Crossfire support. Really can't go wrong with it. | ||
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IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
On July 15 2010 01:33 7mk wrote: OK guys I got a new setup: CLICK ME Sapphire HD5850 TOXIC (still went this one since the one fragkrag suggested was only 5€ cheaper) Intel® Core™ i5-750 - cause of the comments I went from X6-> i5, apparently better for games and about 90€ cheaper. MSI P55-GD65 - dont know nothing about motherboards, this one seemed fine - Tell me if you have better suggestions XFX XPS 850W Black Edition - as recommended by FragKrag Antec Twelve Hundred - Big Tower, got excellent reviews everywhere Western Digital WD6400AADS 640 GB - are there faster/better ones than this? Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1333 Quad-Kit LG DH-16NS (=13,49€ dvd drive) +90€ for Windows 7 What do you guys think?? Thx for the help already given, appreciate it, I think I already have a better AND cheaper system than before I don't know if you plan to have multiple graficcards in there, but i think the power supply is overkill. You don't ened 850W with that pc, 500W would be sufficient. E.g. the Cooler Master Silent Pro M500 or the Enermax Pro82+ II 525W. Those have 80Plus and 80Plus bronce instead of the 80Plus silver that the XFX has, but the difference is not that big and if you don't need 850W certainly not worth the really big price difference. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 15 2010 03:13 IPS.ZeRo wrote: I don't know if you plan to have multiple graficcards in there, but i think the power supply is overkill. You don't ened 850W with that pc, 500W would be sufficient. E.g. the Cooler Master Silent Pro M500 or the Enermax Pro82+ II 525W. Those have 80Plus and 80Plus bronce instead of the 80Plus silver that the XFX has, but the difference is not that big and if don't need 850W certainly not worth the really big price difference. yeah I plan on getting another HD5850 at some point in the future... would you still think that 850W is too much or is it ok then? | ||
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nineninja9
United States194 Posts
I think 750W, maybe even 650 is enough for two 5850s, but it's always nice to have some headroom, especially since power supplies are most efficient around 50% load. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
You can crossfire 5850's under a good 650w psu or a decient 750w psu. If i recalled correctly 5850 TDP is 160? so at max even it only does 320w so the rest of your system can deal with the rest. http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5850-review-crossfire/9 Radeon HD 5850 CrossfireX A second card requires you to add another 170 Watts. You need a 650+ Watt power supply unit if you use it in a high-end system. That power supply needs to have (in total accumulated) at least 55~60 Amps available on the +12 volts rails. And that's something that's likely only going to matter under a thing like furmark. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
TDP is the amout of power that is wasted through heat. they are completely different. Antec 1200 has like 6 fans and if he plans on adding other hard drives, the 850W will come in handy. 750W should be more than enough, but I don't think 650W will account for any overclocking/extra hdds. And in general, stay away from Enermax PSUs. They may be some of the best, but they are so overpriced that it nulls any advantage. Even the highest end Seasonic X-750 is cheaper than an Enermax 750. Corsair is cheaper too generally. | ||
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