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Nfinite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States25 Posts
May 06 2010 18:06 GMT
#1
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24702391825&sid=5000

We are going to be making some changes in the next patch to Phoenix to make him a little easier to use and a little more powerful.

Nony will be happy
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
May 06 2010 18:07 GMT
#2
Yea this was posted in the other thread...
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 06 2010 18:08 GMT
#3
Are they basing unit buffs on the survey rather than analyzing them rationally?
Intropy
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada92 Posts
May 06 2010 18:09 GMT
#4
I see there are Hellion changes coming as well, hopefully they are addressing the micro issues outlined by LaLush http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121769
Intropy.469
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 06 2010 18:09 GMT
#5
On May 07 2010 03:08 lolaloc wrote:
Are they basing unit buffs on the survey rather than analyzing them rationally?

Seems to be the case. I wonder if they even know who nony is.
( ・´ー・`)
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
May 06 2010 18:10 GMT
#6
gogo phoenix
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 18:14:08
May 06 2010 18:10 GMT
#7
lol hellion gg same with phonix and well overseer isnt really supposed to be a cool unit i guess xd tnx for link OP!

im really excited to see what they plan to change, changing units is what blizzard does best

oh god i <3 every single comment browder is making here
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 06 2010 18:11 GMT
#8
They really love their mothership and don't like addressing how people despise it lol :|
Hates Fun🤔
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
May 06 2010 18:11 GMT
#9
No doubt Nony is just licking his chops.
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
Beardfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States525 Posts
May 06 2010 18:12 GMT
#10
Holy crap... the survey results at the battle.net forums are godawful. These casuals are hurting our game. Marauders favorite terran unit? Roach favorite zerg unit? Colossus/Immortal favorite toss units? I wish they used the teamliquid poll instead.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
May 06 2010 18:12 GMT
#11
finally they make the units easier to use. micro is too demanding anyways -_-
This is my truth, tell me yours!
RiOrius
Profile Joined June 2008
United States29 Posts
May 06 2010 18:12 GMT
#12
On May 07 2010 03:08 lolaloc wrote:
Are they basing unit buffs on the survey rather than analyzing them rationally?


Yeah, how dare they try to make the game, as a whole, more fun? Don't they know that pro-level balance is the only thing that matters?
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 18:13:10
May 06 2010 18:12 GMT
#13
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 06 2010 18:13 GMT
#14
The mothership would be awesome if it was a lot faster, and a bit less beefy. And not unique.

You know... kind of like an Arbiter.
[image loading]
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
May 06 2010 18:13 GMT
#15
On May 07 2010 03:11 paper wrote:
They really love their mothership and don't like addressing how people despise it lol :|


sigh so true, mother ship is pretty terrible
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Windmonk
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada93 Posts
May 06 2010 18:13 GMT
#16
1- Thor size reduced.
2- Hellions now shoot a constant fire beam while moving like the void rays, so you cannot escape!
~Watch and Learn~
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
May 06 2010 18:14 GMT
#17
I raged a little seeing the roach and the marauder so high in the list. >.<

Good to see protoss air being buffed a bit though, and I can't wait for the overseers new ability :D.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 06 2010 18:14 GMT
#18
On May 07 2010 03:12 RiOrius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 03:08 lolaloc wrote:
Are they basing unit buffs on the survey rather than analyzing them rationally?


Yeah, how dare they try to make the game, as a whole, more fun? Don't they know that pro-level balance is the only thing that matters?

I seriously hope that was sarcasm.
( ・´ー・`)
phexac
Profile Joined March 2004
United States186 Posts
May 06 2010 18:15 GMT
#19
lol if they make phoenix a little "more powerful and easier to use" it will seriously dominate everything.

While I do think that late game brood lords give toss problems, phoenix is really good at what it does. If they are made stronger still, it may help deal with brood lords, but things it already does well, it might become completely abusive at...
University
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States263 Posts
May 06 2010 18:15 GMT
#20
The pheonix is really powerful right now. I don't understand why they are trying to fix this unit when it is already an incredible tool for harass and reaches an effective critical mass in the mid-late game which can put the hurt on armies across all three races.
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