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I have a G15 but I haven't really ever used the hotkeys properly.
They're pretty superfluous in the long run.
For example making 5 drones.
Say I hot key 5 to my hatcheries.
5-s-d-d-d-d-d versus just pressing that one button. While yes, 5sddddd is much more "actions", it doesn't really make you any slower at doing everything else. Yes, it's 6 actions but those 6 actions are much simpler compared to say 6 actions of dropping.
And then look at what you lose. No control of hatchery waypoints, no control of queens with hatchery. What if you want less than 5 drones?
What if you want 3 drones and 2 zerglings? 5sdddzz is faster than pressing G12, 5szz...
A better macro would be something that automatically press 4 r 5 click hatch every 40 seconds so you don't miss a spawn larvae but then it leaves you with the problem that the computer might be taking away control at very crucial points.
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On April 20 2010 14:13 LUE.Leoj wrote:
Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol.
Not everyone that plays SC2 does it with the goal to be a progamer and play on LAN.
Has Blizzard stated anything about macro-keyboards usage on battle.net?
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I can only assume this will get a lot of backlash cause everyone on Battle.net now is super competitive.
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On April 20 2010 13:53 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Shit like this is overpowered as fuck with Zerg. They can already macro up so fast, and being able to cheat with a keyboard is absolute bullshit.
What I'm saying is that it ISN'T faster. It jams all the time and its faster to just do it manually.
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I want a vote option that says... "Your retarded for hotkeying your gas build option"
...then I will vote
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On April 20 2010 14:18 Toun wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 14:13 LUE.Leoj wrote:
Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol. Not everyone that plays SC2 does it with the goal to be a progamer and play on LAN. Has Blizzard stated anything about macro-keyboards usage on battle.net?
Blizzard can't do jack shit about what hardware you use in your own home. It isn't cheating to use something that doesn't make your game better at all.
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On April 20 2010 15:09 Darpinion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 14:18 Toun wrote:On April 20 2010 14:13 LUE.Leoj wrote:
Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol. Not everyone that plays SC2 does it with the goal to be a progamer and play on LAN. Has Blizzard stated anything about macro-keyboards usage on battle.net? Blizzard can't do jack shit about what hardware you use in your own home. It isn't cheating to use something that doesn't make your game better at all.
I'd have to agree that these macro keys probably wouldn't do much for your game unless it was in the hands of someone who already could live without them.
I honestly don't see the fun in macro keys unless it was an MMO, because I want to be active and engaged as possible. Having macro keys that executes a chain of commands also poses another excuse for me to hide behind if a macro key screws up and forgets to build gas or something.
Having that direct interaction keeps StarCraft a competitive game where everything is dictated by your actions and mind alone.
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I don't want to be rude, but I don't think a fancy keyboard with keys like that will do you much good in starcraft. Sure maybe once in a blue moon but seriously the fun of starcraft for me has always been a cheap keyboard with a cheap mouse that you can beat to death with your lightning speed but more importantly its a strategy game. I can't see how you will gain a advantage over anybody above the bronze league with that thing. I know that I could never be as fast with that thing as I am with a plain mouse and keyboard. For some reason it feels like you are trying to drive a Ferrari into a homeless shelter called starcraft, and yes homeless shelters do kick ass!
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On April 20 2010 15:18 Pape wrote:
I don't want to be rude, but I don't think a fancy keyboard with keys like that will do you much good in starcraft. Sure maybe once in a blue moon but seriously the fun of starcraft for me has always been a cheap keyboard with a cheap mouse that you can beat to death with your lightning speed but more importantly its a strategy game. I can't see how you will gain a advantage over anybody above the bronze league with that thing. I know that I could never be as fast with that thing as I am with a plain mouse and keyboard. For some reason it feels like you are trying to drive a Ferrari into a homeless shelter called starcraft, and yes homeless shelters do kick ass!
This last sentence made my night!
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I think the macros wont actually help you, since you still have to memorize them. You can simply get used to the key bindings for the races and have less confusion, since you will still need your hand at the main keyboard for spellcasting and other commands. As I understand it the hotkeys for SC2 are all on the left side anyways, so you dont have to move your hand much. Using the macro keys seems counterproductive to this.
Btw. it bUrrow, not bOrrow ... if all Zerg could borrow stuff they would be IMBA ... unless you have Neural Parasite there.
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having a "build 5 hydralisk" key will most likely not win you a game against me
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On April 20 2010 15:17 shindigs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 15:09 Darpinion wrote:On April 20 2010 14:18 Toun wrote:On April 20 2010 14:13 LUE.Leoj wrote:
Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol. Not everyone that plays SC2 does it with the goal to be a progamer and play on LAN. Has Blizzard stated anything about macro-keyboards usage on battle.net? Blizzard can't do jack shit about what hardware you use in your own home. It isn't cheating to use something that doesn't make your game better at all. I'd have to agree that these macro keys probably wouldn't do much for your game unless it was in the hands of someone who already could live without them. I honestly don't see the fun in macro keys unless it was an MMO, because I want to be active and engaged as possible. Having macro keys that executes a chain of commands also poses another excuse for me to hide behind if a macro key screws up and forgets to build gas or something. Having that direct interaction keeps StarCraft a competitive game where everything is dictated by your actions and mind alone.
A macro key cannot execute the function of building gas because it's only keystrokes. In order to build gas or any building for that matter you have to use your mouse to place the building.
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The only reason the gas has a macro is because I always forget the different names when I switch races so I spend 3 or for seconds trying to think of what its called before just clicking it.
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Silver noobs with JulyZerg macro by mashing one key is bullshit. I've got about 150 games under my belt and have every hotkey for every race memorized, except maybe a few of the hotkeys for upgrades...I don't see what the issue is.
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I wonder what the point is.
You wont be allowed to do this at a lan event. Sure as stated earlier in this thread, not everyone plays competitively, but then the question will be, then why do it? It may win you some games, and so what? If you just play for fun, does it really matter if you're #30 or #50 in your league?
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You're hurting yourself by not investing the time into learning the diffrent hotkeys imo. If you're this slack I dont think you will improve very fast regardless of macroes and crap, which in a game like this is full scale cheating (1 key for multiple key clicks is cheating).
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Players like you make me sick; if you want to play an easy game; please go and play an easy game. Is it really that hard to memorize a FEW hotkeys? Its not like its a billion hotkey combinations to memorize...
Seriously thats just plain cheating, there's not even a need for discussion here, because it clearly grants an advantage over a player who has to press more keys than you. Even if I really don't care if a casual player uses macros on me; I'd really mind a player on high-level using macros.
Stuff like this makes me mad. Get the German version, all hotkeys there are QWERTZ, ASDFGH, YXCVBN; -_- for all races.
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On April 20 2010 16:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Players like you make me sick; if you want to play an easy game; please go and play an easy game. Is it really that hard to memorize a FEW hotkeys? Its not like its a billion hotkey combinations to memorize...
Seriously thats just plain cheating, there's not even a need for discussion here, because it clearly grants an advantage over a player who has to press more keys than you. Even if I really don't care if a casual player uses macros on me; I'd really mind a player on high-level using macros.
Stuff like this makes me mad. Get the German version, all hotkeys there are QWERTZ, ASDFGH, YXCVBN; -_- for all races.
Chill out dude. It's still a game and not like he will become the new "Flash" just because he has a shiny keyboard... LOL at ragers.
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You know... probably your macro setup is going to make you play worst than you probably already do.
Stick into one race, learn the hotkeys, then if you want try another one and learn their hotkeys.
You cant learn all out of a hat. And sc2 macro is so simple with the multiple building selection that i hardly see why would anyone need this. Other shit is making 7 goons from 7 gateways and going 4d5d6d7d8d9d0d in a second or less... that required practice and skill, compared to that my 5sssssss is so much faster and easy...
just giving a second thought.... you know manual transmition cars are faster in every way than automatics in the right hands? i have never seen a race with automatic cars...
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