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I'm a random player and the hot keys are pretty lame right now, different keys for different races? eww that sucks.
Luck for me I got a Logitech g11 with 18 custom keys.
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This is my current experimental macro, I've changed it a lot and may change depending on my builds, somethings still need to be tweaked, but M1 M2 M3 will be terran zerg and protoss respectively. I'm going to try to make them as similar as possible and release the macro set to the public once I feel its been perfected.
Currently I use ctrl-1 for all hatches, I dunno how much I like that though, I may just select a lot of drone at my main and put them under 2 so I can set up build commands to just hit 2+build whatever and I'll just have to click where ever and it will only 1 will build. Currently all my build unit buttons hit 1+spawn+unit
Toss I'd have just 1 probe as 2
Terran I'm not sure yet.
Any help, feedback, or interest would be cool.
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Thats a lot of macros....i have the G15 i don't use any, but if i were to use them i wouldn't use more than maybe 2-3 or 4...but as a zerg its pretty easy to build stuff anyway, just have to hit ure hatchery hotkey, s and what eva u want...sounds long but its not that hard....
probably the overlord/drone would be the only macro i would setup
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hardly think that necessary for sc2 lol i played sc for some keys today soo hard compared to sc2 i forgot how nice sc2 is
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This is considered cheating isn't it?
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On April 20 2010 12:36 Mastermind wrote:
This is considered cheating isn't it?
I believe so
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On April 20 2010 12:41 Ursad0n wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 12:36 Mastermind wrote:
This is considered cheating isn't it? I believe so
Yes, I think it is too.
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I find it funny how you need a macro for 2 key presses...
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A great idea but if it's not allowed in tournaments I don't think I'll be using it.
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You would make better use of macros with unit compositions to actually reduce required clicks significantly. Learn the hotkeys for the most part they are laid out somewhat effectively for experienced keyboard users. I bind hatcheries to 4 so I will use this in the example just replace as needed - you said you use 1 I would use the # in macro that you use least with hand so you can use the ones that you would otherwise access and better distribute and utilize control groups. so for macro maybe bind one of 7-0 the less used and just remember to make that control group. A good example macro that would demonstrate this would be for me 4zzrhh a standard 5 larva mid game unit composition. In this way you can bind a few mid early and late compositions you like: 3 unit: rhh, zzz or late game 12 unit: zzzzrrrhhhhhccmi
I do not use macros currently but it may be something to consdier for competitive gaming depending on rules as they develope.
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On April 20 2010 12:44 Kinky wrote:
I find it funny how you need a macro for 2 key presses...
select hatch, select spawn larva, spam build unit x5 = 7 buttons
select hatch, select spawn larva, build drone = 3 button
I'm mostly setting it up because I'm random and the hot keys are completely different for each race, which is lame and stupid
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On April 20 2010 12:53 Punk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 12:44 Kinky wrote:
I find it funny how you need a macro for 2 key presses... select hatch, select spawn larva, spam build unit x5 = 7 buttons select hatch, select spawn larva, build drone = 3 button I'm mostly setting it up because I'm random and the hot keys are completely different for each race, which is lame and stupid
Yes but a ton of the ones in your picture are only 1 or 2 button presses ... eg build spawning pool, build hatchery, burrow.
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You need a macro to build an extractor? tehehe Mondays are awesome!
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On April 20 2010 12:58 789 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 12:53 Punk wrote:On April 20 2010 12:44 Kinky wrote:
I find it funny how you need a macro for 2 key presses... select hatch, select spawn larva, spam build unit x5 = 7 buttons select hatch, select spawn larva, build drone = 3 button I'm mostly setting it up because I'm random and the hot keys are completely different for each race, which is lame and stupid Yes but a ton of the ones in your picture are only 1 or 2 button presses ... eg build spawning pool, build hatchery, burrow.
i group all the drones on minerals together, so I don't have to find/click on one. So its 2+B+S or whatever
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On April 20 2010 13:00 Synwave wrote:
You need a macro to build an extractor? tehehe Mondays are awesome!
Again that is because its a different button for each race, Refinery, extractor, assimilator.
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Something tells me that it might take as much effort to get used to this as it would take just to learn to get used to pressing the normal hotkeys...
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I bought a G13? I'm not sure exactly what model but its the most expensive Logitech board. The reason I bought it was because I thought that the macro keys would help a lot with my probe, zealot, goon, etc. production while I keep battling; but come to find out, it isn't easier at all. The macros on the keyboard jam all the time. I think its much easier to just use binding hotkeys and the unit/building hotkeys for macro. With MBS in SC2 its 10x easier than it was in BW.
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Shit like this is overpowered as fuck with Zerg. They can already macro up so fast, and being able to cheat with a keyboard is absolute bullshit.
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What happens when you get caught with out your keyboard and your friends want to see your mad skills they saw over b.net?
Opps... I dont have my magic keyboard.
Exposed.
Just play how it's meant to be played, it's more enjoyable that way anyway,
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Poll: Do you approve?No, it's cheating (109) 59% Yes. IDGAF (42) 23% Yes, i use macro keys (25) 14% No, i can't afford a G11 (6) 3% Other, post in thread (3) 2% 185 total votes Your vote: Do you approve? (Vote): Yes, i use macro keys
(Vote): Yes. IDGAF
(Vote): No, i can't afford a G11
(Vote): No, it's cheating
(Vote): Other, post in thread
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Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol.
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I have a G15 but I haven't really ever used the hotkeys properly.
They're pretty superfluous in the long run.
For example making 5 drones.
Say I hot key 5 to my hatcheries.
5-s-d-d-d-d-d versus just pressing that one button. While yes, 5sddddd is much more "actions", it doesn't really make you any slower at doing everything else. Yes, it's 6 actions but those 6 actions are much simpler compared to say 6 actions of dropping.
And then look at what you lose. No control of hatchery waypoints, no control of queens with hatchery. What if you want less than 5 drones?
What if you want 3 drones and 2 zerglings? 5sdddzz is faster than pressing G12, 5szz...
A better macro would be something that automatically press 4 r 5 click hatch every 40 seconds so you don't miss a spawn larvae but then it leaves you with the problem that the computer might be taking away control at very crucial points.
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On April 20 2010 14:13 LUE.Leoj wrote:
Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol.
Not everyone that plays SC2 does it with the goal to be a progamer and play on LAN.
Has Blizzard stated anything about macro-keyboards usage on battle.net?
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I can only assume this will get a lot of backlash cause everyone on Battle.net now is super competitive.
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On April 20 2010 13:53 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Shit like this is overpowered as fuck with Zerg. They can already macro up so fast, and being able to cheat with a keyboard is absolute bullshit.
What I'm saying is that it ISN'T faster. It jams all the time and its faster to just do it manually.
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I want a vote option that says... "Your retarded for hotkeying your gas build option"
...then I will vote
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On April 20 2010 14:18 Toun wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 14:13 LUE.Leoj wrote:
Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol. Not everyone that plays SC2 does it with the goal to be a progamer and play on LAN. Has Blizzard stated anything about macro-keyboards usage on battle.net?
Blizzard can't do jack shit about what hardware you use in your own home. It isn't cheating to use something that doesn't make your game better at all.
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On April 20 2010 15:09 Darpinion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 14:18 Toun wrote:On April 20 2010 14:13 LUE.Leoj wrote:
Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol. Not everyone that plays SC2 does it with the goal to be a progamer and play on LAN. Has Blizzard stated anything about macro-keyboards usage on battle.net? Blizzard can't do jack shit about what hardware you use in your own home. It isn't cheating to use something that doesn't make your game better at all.
I'd have to agree that these macro keys probably wouldn't do much for your game unless it was in the hands of someone who already could live without them.
I honestly don't see the fun in macro keys unless it was an MMO, because I want to be active and engaged as possible. Having macro keys that executes a chain of commands also poses another excuse for me to hide behind if a macro key screws up and forgets to build gas or something.
Having that direct interaction keeps StarCraft a competitive game where everything is dictated by your actions and mind alone.
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I don't want to be rude, but I don't think a fancy keyboard with keys like that will do you much good in starcraft. Sure maybe once in a blue moon but seriously the fun of starcraft for me has always been a cheap keyboard with a cheap mouse that you can beat to death with your lightning speed but more importantly its a strategy game. I can't see how you will gain a advantage over anybody above the bronze league with that thing. I know that I could never be as fast with that thing as I am with a plain mouse and keyboard. For some reason it feels like you are trying to drive a Ferrari into a homeless shelter called starcraft, and yes homeless shelters do kick ass!
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On April 20 2010 15:18 Pape wrote:
I don't want to be rude, but I don't think a fancy keyboard with keys like that will do you much good in starcraft. Sure maybe once in a blue moon but seriously the fun of starcraft for me has always been a cheap keyboard with a cheap mouse that you can beat to death with your lightning speed but more importantly its a strategy game. I can't see how you will gain a advantage over anybody above the bronze league with that thing. I know that I could never be as fast with that thing as I am with a plain mouse and keyboard. For some reason it feels like you are trying to drive a Ferrari into a homeless shelter called starcraft, and yes homeless shelters do kick ass!
This last sentence made my night!
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I think the macros wont actually help you, since you still have to memorize them. You can simply get used to the key bindings for the races and have less confusion, since you will still need your hand at the main keyboard for spellcasting and other commands. As I understand it the hotkeys for SC2 are all on the left side anyways, so you dont have to move your hand much. Using the macro keys seems counterproductive to this.
Btw. it bUrrow, not bOrrow ... if all Zerg could borrow stuff they would be IMBA ... unless you have Neural Parasite there.
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having a "build 5 hydralisk" key will most likely not win you a game against me
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On April 20 2010 15:17 shindigs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 15:09 Darpinion wrote:On April 20 2010 14:18 Toun wrote:On April 20 2010 14:13 LUE.Leoj wrote:
Good luck with all those macros at a lan lol. Not everyone that plays SC2 does it with the goal to be a progamer and play on LAN. Has Blizzard stated anything about macro-keyboards usage on battle.net? Blizzard can't do jack shit about what hardware you use in your own home. It isn't cheating to use something that doesn't make your game better at all. I'd have to agree that these macro keys probably wouldn't do much for your game unless it was in the hands of someone who already could live without them. I honestly don't see the fun in macro keys unless it was an MMO, because I want to be active and engaged as possible. Having macro keys that executes a chain of commands also poses another excuse for me to hide behind if a macro key screws up and forgets to build gas or something. Having that direct interaction keeps StarCraft a competitive game where everything is dictated by your actions and mind alone.
A macro key cannot execute the function of building gas because it's only keystrokes. In order to build gas or any building for that matter you have to use your mouse to place the building.
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The only reason the gas has a macro is because I always forget the different names when I switch races so I spend 3 or for seconds trying to think of what its called before just clicking it.
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Silver noobs with JulyZerg macro by mashing one key is bullshit. I've got about 150 games under my belt and have every hotkey for every race memorized, except maybe a few of the hotkeys for upgrades...I don't see what the issue is.
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I wonder what the point is.
You wont be allowed to do this at a lan event. Sure as stated earlier in this thread, not everyone plays competitively, but then the question will be, then why do it? It may win you some games, and so what? If you just play for fun, does it really matter if you're #30 or #50 in your league?
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You're hurting yourself by not investing the time into learning the diffrent hotkeys imo. If you're this slack I dont think you will improve very fast regardless of macroes and crap, which in a game like this is full scale cheating (1 key for multiple key clicks is cheating).
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Players like you make me sick; if you want to play an easy game; please go and play an easy game. Is it really that hard to memorize a FEW hotkeys? Its not like its a billion hotkey combinations to memorize...
Seriously thats just plain cheating, there's not even a need for discussion here, because it clearly grants an advantage over a player who has to press more keys than you. Even if I really don't care if a casual player uses macros on me; I'd really mind a player on high-level using macros.
Stuff like this makes me mad. Get the German version, all hotkeys there are QWERTZ, ASDFGH, YXCVBN; -_- for all races.
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On April 20 2010 16:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Players like you make me sick; if you want to play an easy game; please go and play an easy game. Is it really that hard to memorize a FEW hotkeys? Its not like its a billion hotkey combinations to memorize...
Seriously thats just plain cheating, there's not even a need for discussion here, because it clearly grants an advantage over a player who has to press more keys than you. Even if I really don't care if a casual player uses macros on me; I'd really mind a player on high-level using macros.
Stuff like this makes me mad. Get the German version, all hotkeys there are QWERTZ, ASDFGH, YXCVBN; -_- for all races.
Chill out dude. It's still a game and not like he will become the new "Flash" just because he has a shiny keyboard... LOL at ragers.
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You know... probably your macro setup is going to make you play worst than you probably already do.
Stick into one race, learn the hotkeys, then if you want try another one and learn their hotkeys.
You cant learn all out of a hat. And sc2 macro is so simple with the multiple building selection that i hardly see why would anyone need this. Other shit is making 7 goons from 7 gateways and going 4d5d6d7d8d9d0d in a second or less... that required practice and skill, compared to that my 5sssssss is so much faster and easy...
just giving a second thought.... you know manual transmition cars are faster in every way than automatics in the right hands? i have never seen a race with automatic cars...
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On April 20 2010 16:16 papaz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 16:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Players like you make me sick; if you want to play an easy game; please go and play an easy game. Is it really that hard to memorize a FEW hotkeys? Its not like its a billion hotkey combinations to memorize...
Seriously thats just plain cheating, there's not even a need for discussion here, because it clearly grants an advantage over a player who has to press more keys than you. Even if I really don't care if a casual player uses macros on me; I'd really mind a player on high-level using macros.
Stuff like this makes me mad. Get the German version, all hotkeys there are QWERTZ, ASDFGH, YXCVBN; -_- for all races. Chill out dude. It's still a game and not like he will become the new "Flash" just because he has a shiny keyboard... LOL at ragers.
Yes, I totally rage about people cheating at a game. I don't really care (as I stated before) if casuals do that, but I'd plainly call it cheating. So.. no need to talk about it; it will never be allowed in tourneys etc. I own a Saitek Cyborg Keyboard and I'm able to work with AUTO_IT so I could probably just macro-up and let the macro play all the opening build for me.. but thats just ridiculous.
He should just learn the keys.
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Wait isn't a macro equivalent of performing a series of keystrokes? If so then how can you have one macro for build extractor that works for all three races? (since the hotkeys will differ)
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I am a passionate supporter of the 5$ keyboard (+5$ for contrast keys  ). It's a personal feeling but i dislike this and also custom key mapping. Everyone playing on a standard keyboard with the same hotkeys like with SC:BW seems sounds like the best situation for me.
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Why don't you just change the hotkeys to the qwertz layout so its the same for each race - I do think that is totally acceptable as the german version has this by default while using macros is plainly wrong. If I am not mistaken Blizzard even said in one of the interviews that macros are fine for WoW but they don't want to see them in SC2, and spotting macros will be incredibly easy once a replay analyzer exists)
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I haven't heard macros are against the rules/cheating, if blizzard says it I'll stop using it.
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On April 20 2010 17:40 Punk wrote:
I haven't heard macros are against the rules/cheating, if blizzard says it I'll stop using it.
You're gaining an unfair advantage from letting the keyboard input a few extra keystrokes for you.
It's sort of an implied rule that any sort of technical hardware advantage is considered as "cheating," but that's a really strong word so I'll just stick with unfair.
You WILL be chewed out by doing this because of how competitive TL members are. They expect that everyone will be on a level playing field on Bnet, but having macro keys is sort of giving yourself that unfair advantage.
However, I don't think it matters too much if you don't know what you're doing with it =P But I suggest if you want to enter a tournament or play seriously, you save those macro keys for WoW. You're really missing out on the fun of actually using the normal hotkeys and macroing it up like everyone else. It's just part of the game and its valued if you can macro with the standard hotkeys.
I don't think you'll find a lot of people here agreeing with you using these keys =\
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I would say not using the macros for stuff like this is common sense. Creating a control advantage which theoretically can make you faster than any other player, not by skill, but by externally modifying the control of the game is a no go and should be a no brainer. I think it's kind of strange how people can still get a feeling of accomplishment beating someone while they know that they have skewed the playing field in their favor. I guess the same can be said about people who use map hacks.
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On April 20 2010 18:03 Reptilian wrote:
I would say not using the macros for stuff like this is common sense. Creating a control advantage which theoretically can make you faster than any other player, not by skill, but by externally modifying the control of the game is a no go and should be a no brainer. I think it's kind of strange how people can still get a feeling of accomplishment beating someone while they know that they have skewed the playing field in their favor. I guess the same can be said about people who use map hacks.
Agreed. I can never understand a satisfaction in a game you "know" you can win.
However, I'm gonna have to slightly sympathize with the stance of the OP. It would be a nice standard if all the hotkeys were somehow universal for all races, at least for buildings. I have no idea how that would work for units, since no units are equivalent.
But like everyone says, its best to know the diff hotkeys manually. I'm sure an option to universalize at least all the buildings commands will be the same once the game is released.
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Usually my macromanagement fails because miss a round of production, so speeding up the keypresses isn't really the way to solve it. Pressing 2 or 3 keys rather than 1 is slower but it doesn't make that much of a difference as long as you remember to do it when you need to. Usually I just think "build more zealots" and my fingers do it anyways, brain macros if you will.
+ Show Spoiler +macro it to do hold position micro or something instead
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On April 20 2010 18:07 shindigs wrote:
Agreed. I can never understand a satisfaction in a game you "know" you can win.
However, I'm gonna have to slightly sympathize with the stance of the OP. It would be a nice standard if all the hotkeys were somehow universal for all races, at least for buildings. I have no idea how that would work for units, since no units are equivalent.
That would make it alot easier.
On the other hand, having different keys for the different races does add to the different feel of said races. It makes ther game a lttle more difficult to learn, but I don't think we play Starcraft because it's easy. We want a challenge!  Otherwise we could just pick up our button bashing Console controllers and have at it. (Been there, done that  )
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I dont see how a macro keyboard can help much in in sc2. Macro for making more stuff for zerg is basicly 1,r,click,click,click + 1,tab(since I group queens and hatchiers),s, d,d,d,d,d(for example). This is repeated over and over all through the game and youll have full control of how much you want to build.
The hard part about macro is to actually remember to hit those keys. If there was a cycling macro that build drones from hatcheries without deselecting your currently selected units, that would be different. Is it possible to do?
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in wc3 the entire community used macro keys to help operate the numpad. blizzard never had a problem with it. there is a history of this sort of thing .. ultimately my opinion is it will improve your game a tad but not the real important parts
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On April 20 2010 13:02 Punk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 13:00 Synwave wrote:
You need a macro to build an extractor? tehehe Mondays are awesome! Again that is because its a different button for each race, Refinery, extractor, assimilator.
i assume you didnt play sc:bw because sc2 hotkeys are easier then they were in sc1.
and also, its not that freakin hard to remember unless you have a learning disability
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On April 20 2010 13:00 Synwave wrote:
You need a macro to build an extractor? tehehe Mondays are awesome!
@OP even its a good idea... dont!
just learn the different keys and practice its not so hard.
i had no competive RTS exp before the sc2 beta at all (only played some sc on LAN with friends about 8 or more years ago..) and started with first optin wave: slow, unefficent and max 40apm average, bronze.
now after not even 2 month i know all hotkeys blind and my apm is about 100 average, top of gold.
just take your time and learn, its not hard and the outcome will be far better! sc2 learning curve is steep if you have some talent.
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I wouldn't really recommend it. I don't think it will improve your game much. If the macro keys really did, then the Korean progamers would have used it ages ago. So seeing that they aren't using macro keys at all and decided to use the manual hotkeys, I would say maybe stay off it.
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I guess it would be better if it was a macro for researches or upgrades. Anyway, I don't support this stuff since it's like a third-party program.
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How is this cheating... anyone can buy the keyboards, anyone can make macros, the game is still played by the person, the advantage, if any, is that you have to press one button instead of a couple to build units. The person still has to select the appropriate units to build anything (afaik no button allows you to select a drone that is active and even if there is, youll have to select an appropriate one). If you voted no, then you definately don't have an idea how it works.
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On April 20 2010 19:18 cognizantfire wrote:
I wouldn't really recommend it. I don't think it will improve your game much. If the macro keys really did, then the Korean progamers would have used it ages ago. So seeing that they aren't using macro keys at all and decided to use the manual hotkeys, I would say maybe stay off it.
They undoubtedly would if it weren't forbidden to externally modify the game or how it's played. Improving efficiency and comfort while removing required dexterity would be a very large advantage at their level of play. Maybe the playing field would be even if everyone were allowed, but KESPA had to draw the line somewhere and "no modifications" is a very obvious place to draw it. For example, you could use AutoHotkey to change the keys, but there's also an AutoHotkey script for Brood War that automates macroing similarly to MBS, cloning, smart-casting, and hotkey commands.
Since most of those are covered already in Starcraft 2, it would convey less of an advantage, obviously, but I can easily see how people would frown upon any sort of modifications in competitions with varying levels of vehemence.
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On April 20 2010 20:10 Koffiegast wrote:
How is this cheating... anyone can buy the keyboards, anyone can make macros, the game is still played by the person, the advantage, if any, is that you have to press one button instead of a couple to build units. The person still has to select the appropriate units to build anything (afaik no button allows you to select a drone that is active and even if there is, youll have to select an appropriate one). If you voted no, then you definately don't have an idea how it works.
By the same logic you employ anyone can download a maphack, therefor a maphack is not a cheat. It's actually a significant advantage if you've ever played at a high level. You can even go so far to remap your own registry to achieve some of effects on keys, and I don't think blizzard is ever going to be inspecting your registry.. So the real question is, where is the line? Blizzard seems to think it's any application which actually directly interacts with starcraft
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I don't agree with this either, but lets be realistic. Is this player doing this to gain a advantage to compete in a tournament? I don't think that is the goal, but this is only a assumption.
I do feel this will make you have to memorize additional keys, thus providing more harm then good. Unless you look at your keyboard often, which then is already causing you to lose time in game - which could be the difference in a W/L.
If blizzard says it is ok - Does it really matter? Does this provide *that* much of a macro advantage? I am unsure as I have never needed keyboard macros.
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silver player buys fancy keyboard, gaming community in outrage
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Macros are not cheating, just like wide screen is not cheating.
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lim yo hwan would laugh about you
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the sad part is that you cant remember the hotkeys for 3 races ......
if you think you have to do it, do it. but dont think you can do this at a LAN.
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macros is cheating, changing hotkeys is cheating
good thing is that only bad players get helped by this while good players laff at how easy the game already is (when it comes to speed on keyboard and mouse)
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On April 20 2010 12:53 Punk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 12:44 Kinky wrote:
I find it funny how you need a macro for 2 key presses... select hatch, select spawn larva, spam build unit x5 = 7 buttons select hatch, select spawn larva, build drone = 3 button I'm mostly setting it up because I'm random and the hot keys are completely different for each race, which is lame and stupid
man, if u find learning the hotkeys for all 3 races to be difficult, i don't think you play enough to ever have to worry about being competitive.
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I can understand the players that want to change some hotkeys around, but binding several keypresses to one key using 3rd party programs is never cool imo.
Take the time to learn to play without the crutch.
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On April 20 2010 20:25 PSGMud wrote:
Macros are not cheating, just like wide screen is not cheating.
Ya totally I use multiselection hack in SC1 all the time, its not cheating at all!!!!
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Sounds more difficult to remember G# then the actual shortcut key for an action. Just waiting on what Razer's keyboard is going to be as I want to switch from my natural ergonomic keyboard to a straight flat keyboard as I don't use 7->0 keys easily.
I don't think changing the hotkey itself is cheating but using a macro to do a queue of actions is cheating.
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On April 20 2010 20:25 PSGMud wrote:
Macros are not cheating, just like wide screen is not cheating.
^That's my thoughts, its a slight hardware advantage, its not modifying or changing the game files or anything.
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It is unfair... but i doubt that this will be allowed on a professional level. I don't even think professionals would want to use something like this.
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On April 20 2010 20:25 PSGMud wrote:
Macros are not cheating, just like wide screen is not cheating.
Well, that not a staight comparison. First of all, you are comparing output with input. Secondly, viewing in 4:3, 16: 9 or 16:10 is still how the game was designed by the devolpers. There are differences between these, yes, but there is no real way around that other than giving people with a 4:3 resolution the black bars if you know what I mean. (Yes, or the sidebars for 16: 9 and 16:10. But these resolutions have become standard for newer screens/models).
What you are doing with Marcos, would compare to playing Starcraft on 2 screens or having an arftificially modified zoomlevel. Still don't get how that would be unfair/cheating?
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The final game will have the ability to remap all hotkeys to any keyboard button (well almost any button). The german version of sc2 beta already has the qwert hotkey setup (the 15 action slots of the gui are mapped to qwert asdfg yxcvb respectively) and i think you can edit the hotkeys already in the beta.
btw ... war3 introduced custom hotkeys somewhere shortly after releasing tft i think.
i cant see the drastic differnce between custom hotkeys and logitec function key macros.
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