First marine upgrade ! - Page 2

On March 17 2004 04:54 SoMuchBetter wrote:
goons deal 40 damage to marines? so armor gives them +200 hp?
if you have no confidence in your marine vs lurker micro then get armor, otherwise attack.

On March 26 2005 18:09 FiGhtAsBlind wrote:


Goons do explosive damage so if they did 40 damage, it'd still take two hits.

On March 17 2004 06:39 exalted wrote:
A lot of people support getting the Armor upgrade vs Lurker, and there are a lot of reasons why its not a good idea:

The main reason is that when you stim your marines, your medics usually cannot heal them all before you run in and battle, and if you waited that long without a high medic/marine ratio, you would lose your stim anyways. Further, if you DID have a high medic/marine ratio, you woulnd't be dealing that much damage, and I'm pretty sure that elky (one that does use high m to marine ratio) goes attack first.

Further, its not nearly as good vs mutalisk and zergling, and ultralisk (hopefully you dont need to get that far in the game), and by the time you deal with guradian, you should have +1 armor anyways. (preferably 2/1 or 3/2)

Even I, the micro warrior that cannot kill a lurker with 5 marines believe that marine +attack is better. Just fan out your marines when you deal with lurker and you won't take as many casualties.

Edit: I'm not sure of the value of Marines vs Protoss -> a FAST armor upgrade might be good, I don't do that much Marine stuff that is non-Gundam vs Protoss (I like to do unconventional stuff, like fast wraith, so I might test this out more), but attack seems to be mainly better, because even though it would take 5 hits by dragoon and 2 hits by Dark Templar (Dragoon does 20 damage which is halved because a marine is a small unit, therefore it does 10 damage, and it means it would do 9/9/9/9/9 in order to kill a 40 hp +1 armor marine [previous poster wrote this but i'm just clarifying]). But, this becomes quickly obsolete when the protoss gets +1 attack, so it would have to be a build order of like rax rax bay acad or something --. But marimedic is very weak vs protoss anyways because of the fact that Dragoon w/range outrange Marines and they are absolutely ass vs High Templar and Reaver.

On March 30 2005 17:01 wasted wrote:
isn't +1 defense = 1 hit more vs sunken? seems better to me than attack

On April 25 2005 21:17 striker wrote:
yes i triedmany different possibilities and attack i s definitly the best against lurker ( i mean 1-0 is better to start than 0-1) and u can make moremedicif u want somemore amor.

On July 11 2005 09:33 iNsaNe- wrote:


Bumping old threads is thx.