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On March 06 2004 18:18 badteeth wrote: Show nested quote +On March 06 2004 14:42 Excalibur_Z wrote:
If a married couple doesn't stay together the child falls into the pitfall I described before. I grew up in one of those environments and I know the score.
Bravo, bravo. You never can admit when you're wrong can you? I'm a product of a failed marriage as well. I rather live with my single mom than living with fights every day. Anecdotal evidence means nothing, just like i told you before. And I'll admit i'm wrong when i'm actually wrong.
So am I my parents divorced a few years ago, I, my brother and my sister were all happy about it.
Too bad religion forbids it, but I hope one day God will come and save us from religion.  
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Hey badteeth, you are wrong. Show me one thing I have said that is hateful or discriminatory, or false.
Discrimination is blind prejudice. The reasons for which I don't believe the homosexual act is right are based on what I consider solid logic.
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But obsolete.
The weirdest thing about being gay is that you can't have kids of your own. That's the whole point of everything IMHO.
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from a natural point of a view, 'homosexuality' is weird which makes it hard to understand and i don't know how anyone could say its easy. 'homosexuals' on the other hand are different because they are human
homosexuality has been around for a long time and everyone has heard the homosexuality in the greeks and the homosexual hercules. that homosexuality has been around so long is strange don't you think? it's odd that it persists thoughout the ages despite having very little to no reproduction chance yet it remains. has it decreased over the years? what would have made it common in the first place?
since it has been around for so long in humans has it also been present in animals? i heard some tests were done on 'gay' cows that showed they prefered same gendered cows but i never read the article myself. i would wonder how they determined they were gay and what is really meant be prefering. does prefer mean they'll still like the female when the male is not available? so would they be gay or bi?
some have used taste as an analogy but how does that work? is being gay like prefering sweets "only" and disgusted at salty/sour? is being gay like not being able to taste sourness at all? can someone explain how it relates or think of a better analogy?
if there are those who like males or females, are there those who prefer neither? if there are bi's, are there neithers? its it like being left or right handed or ambidextrous?
"We don't know for certain what percentage of people are left handed. Estimates vary from 2 to 30 percent of any human population. Most estimates hover around 10%, depending upon the criteria used to assess handedness. Males are about one and one half to two times more likely to be left-handed than are females. Some animals like cats, badgers, wolves, bears, and lobsters favor their left side. Rats and monkeys favor their right side for handling things."
http://www.handanalysis.com/lefthanded.html
blah blah i don't get it...
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On March 06 2004 22:57 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Hey badteeth, you are wrong. Show me one thing I have said that is hateful or discriminatory, or false.
Discrimination is blind prejudice. The reasons for which I don't believe the homosexual act is right are based on what I consider solid logic.
Ever heard the expression ignorance is bliss? It means you don't KNOW your ignorant. Anyone who is against gay marriage is predijuce agenst gays whether they know it or not.
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On March 06 2004 23:28 Commander[SB] wrote: Show nested quote +On March 06 2004 22:57 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Hey badteeth, you are wrong. Show me one thing I have said that is hateful or discriminatory, or false.
Discrimination is blind prejudice. The reasons for which I don't believe the homosexual act is right are based on what I consider solid logic. Ever heard the expression ignorance is bliss? It means you don't KNOW your ignorant. Anyone who is against gay marriage is predijuce agenst gays whether they know it or not.
I won't point out the incredible irony of that statement.
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On March 06 2004 22:57 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Hey badteeth, you are wrong. Show me one thing I have said that is hateful or discriminatory, or false.
Discrimination is blind prejudice. The reasons for which I don't believe the homosexual act is right are based on what I consider solid logic.
Your logic is faulty. You want to deny people basic rights that are guaranteed in your own constitution on the basis of their sexual preferences. Your words may not have outright hatred in them, but your actions speak for themselves.
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I think homosexuality is more of a disorder than a lifestyle.
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from a natural point of view, jacking off or having sex while using birth control is weird, too.
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I'm against both of those things too, Stimey. Ever read the story of Onan in the Bible? Guy got struck by lightning for spilling his seed on the ground, being wasteful.
From a purely logical point of view, homosexuality is hideously unfruitful.
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yeah but luckily the rest of the world has progressed since Onan lived.
not everything has to be fruitful, doing stuff because you enjoy doing it (without harming anyone else) is actually a good thing.
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Actually it's kinda impossible to not spill seed if you dont have frequent sex, your body dumps your old seed after a week of 2...
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yeah that's also a good point. although I've never gone that long without masturbating so I wouldn't know. I guess spilling it while receiving pleasure is worse than spilling it without getting any satisfaction.
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a story in the bible isnt exactly grounds for a logical argument. by the same logic, having sex when a woman is not ovulating, which we can know, is just as wasteful as homosexuality or masterbation. so if u are married, is it only "logical" to have sex 3 days a month?
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Oh man, I can't believe we are discussing with guys that still believe in The Bible such in a straight way.
Hello? That's a story told to the ignorant poblations so that they believed in the mighty god and some smart people could live out of that poblations fear.
Ah, it frustates me so bad. Do you REALLY believe in Onan, Noe's 5.000 years of live and that god created the world in 6 days? And i could keep on saying things... plz answer, do you believe in all that stuff? Because if you do so i'll stop discussing, since you can't discuss with a wall.
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the bible is symbolic, all "that stuff" can be beleived in when not translated so literally. there is alot to learn from the bible regardless if u are religious or not, i wouldnt bash it..
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On March 07 2004 07:50 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
the bible is symbolic, all "that stuff" can be beleived in when not translated so literally. there is alot to learn from the bible regardless if u are religious or not, i wouldnt bash it..
Ya sure there are good things in it, but the thing is people take everything so literally while its written by HUMANS in a time the people thought the world was flat.
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agreed, but my point was simply that if you can so easily identify the things in the bible that dont make sense(flat earth) , then you should also identify, or atleast recognize, the lessons that can be learned. it is not a matter of right or wrong.
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That's what i wanted to say PsylO, maybe i was a bit too radical. I studied in a religious school ( my english sucks so badly... sorry), so i've studied quite a lot the bible. But even in a school where they could try to keep us from thinking by ourselfs, they showed us the bible as something to take lessons from, not to take it as it is.
But it looks like these guys believe in the bible the way it's written, and that's something i don't understand.
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my point was also, that maybe "these people" dont necessarily beleive the bible literally, but are talking about the issues in the bible through the bibles symbolism. does it really matter if obsolete thinks onan dropped seeds and got struck by lighting? or is that just a platform to talk abuot his real point.
on the flip side, im sure there are plenty of people who just dont understand the bible, and do speak of it literally, but i woiuldnt assume that of any of my fellow forum members.
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