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On March 05 2004 20:13 Eniram wrote:
Gay people should not be allowed to adopt children.
P.S. No, I'm not going to try and support this, because I know I am right, and if you disagree, I know you are wrong.
Now you have convinced me, how could i be so totally wrong?
I guess your religion, being from Qatar, is mulism, probably extremist, and mulism is ages back in every sexual issue. I can't understand how a religion that was CENTURIES ahead 1000 years ago can just have walked backwards since then.
First you should recognise womans rights, and, maybe in some ages, if the world hasn't been blowed up yet, you might accept gay people as they are.
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I don't mind if a closet gay adopts a kid because they would make better parents than most straight people that adopt kids for the money. But I don't think guys that wear high heel boots, lipstick, and feathery scarfs should be allowed to have childred. That's just my beliefs. If you know who Bobby Trendy is from the Anna Nicole Show, and you think he should be allowed to have a child, I will be shocked. But I could be wrong.
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On March 06 2004 07:12 Bill and Bill wrote:
I don't mind if a closet gay adopts a kid because they would make better parents than most straight people that adopt kids for the money. But I don't think guys that wear high heel boots, lipstick, and feathery scarfs should be allowed to have childred. That's just my beliefs. If you know who Bobby Trendy is from the Anna Nicole Show, and you think he should be allowed to have a child, I will be shocked. But I could be wrong.
I dont think stupid whores or misogynistic men should be parents.
You can't deny people rights because a small fraction of that group is nuts.
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On March 06 2004 07:23 badteeth wrote: Show nested quote +On March 06 2004 07:12 Bill and Bill wrote:
I don't mind if a closet gay adopts a kid because they would make better parents than most straight people that adopt kids for the money. But I don't think guys that wear high heel boots, lipstick, and feathery scarfs should be allowed to have childred. That's just my beliefs. If you know who Bobby Trendy is from the Anna Nicole Show, and you think he should be allowed to have a child, I will be shocked. But I could be wrong. I dont think stupid whores or misogynistic men should be parents. You can't deny people rights because a small fraction of that group is nuts.
whores and crackheads CAN'T adopt children.
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I didn't mean whore literally.
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You can't adopt a child if you are going to cause the child harm. Being teased, and turning out gay is harmful to a child, because even Terrou says it sucks to be gay, so why would he want to put someone else through that if he isn't selfish?
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You are arguing it all backwards. Being gay shouldn't make your life harder, it shouldn't mean you have less rights. You should try to change peoples attitudes, not give in to bigotry and hatred.
And i was arguing that a few rotten apples in the gay demographic doesn't make a gay coupleless fit to bring up people then a heterosexual couple.
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being black will bring more "harm" then having gay parents, should we stop african-american precreation as well? in fact, the only demographic that doesnt face auto-descrimination is white males. should we only allow white boys to survive birth to somehow protect all the non-white males?
You should try to change peoples attitudes, not give in to bigotry and hatred.
exactly
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On March 06 2004 07:48 badteeth wrote:
And i was arguing that a few rotten apples in the gay demographic doesn't make a gay coupleless fit to bring up people then a heterosexual couple.
Well I agree with that, so I don't know who you were arguing against T_T
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Ok then, glad we got that sorted out.
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On March 06 2004 02:43 Teroru wrote: Show nested quote +On March 06 2004 00:16 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Would it suit you, Rei, if I said he and his partner, as a couple, could never have a child? I have more than a few friends who would carry my child. I would even fuck them to do it. Although... i WOULD have to close my eyes, and i would be thinking of George Stults, Brad Pitt, and Matt Damon in a 3some :O
Did you read what I said or did it just go in your eyes and out your ears? You and your homosexual buddy will never have a child together, capesh?
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ObsoleteLogic, Why do you keep on discussing the same issue when it's obvius it takes this topic nowhere?
We all know how babys are made... and i haven't seen toruru or anyone else saying a member of a gay couple can get pregnant, that's something that can only happen in a Swartchenaguer movie (or however it's written).
But they will anyways call it *their* child, as hetero couples call the kids they adopt.
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On March 06 2004 09:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote: Show nested quote +On March 06 2004 02:43 Teroru wrote: On March 06 2004 00:16 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Would it suit you, Rei, if I said he and his partner, as a couple, could never have a child? I have more than a few friends who would carry my child. I would even fuck them to do it. Although... i WOULD have to close my eyes, and i would be thinking of George Stults, Brad Pitt, and Matt Damon in a 3some :O Did you read what I said or did it just go in your eyes and out your ears? You and your homosexual buddy will never have a child together, capesh?
It'll still be his child. They will raise the child together, and care for it, and nurture it. That would make them the child's parents. Maybe not biological parents, but but todays definition, it's parents.
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Its impossible to argue with people who can't comprehend design or intent, nor follow subtext.
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On March 06 2004 10:53 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Its impossible to argue with people who can't comprehend design or intent, nor follow subtext.
Its impossible to argue with somebody who can't comprehend mordern terminology. Not to mention is endlessly ignorant.
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Nice typing there chief. I'm sorry, I'm afraid I wasn't aware that the world is supposed to conform to the whims of popular society. Relativists. (Yes, that includes "mordern" terminology. If you change the meaning of a word... heh)
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On March 06 2004 09:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote: Show nested quote +On March 06 2004 02:43 Teroru wrote: On March 06 2004 00:16 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Would it suit you, Rei, if I said he and his partner, as a couple, could never have a child? I have more than a few friends who would carry my child. I would even fuck them to do it. Although... i WOULD have to close my eyes, and i would be thinking of George Stults, Brad Pitt, and Matt Damon in a 3some :O Did you read what I said or did it just go in your eyes and out your ears? You and your homosexual buddy will never have a child together, capesh?
I do not believe in monogamy. I do not plan on having a long-term homosexual partner.
If one of my female friends got insemenated, it would be my intent for me and her to raise the child together. If she did not wish to have child, i would attempt to be a single parent.
However, i am only 18, and my opinions might change by the time i decide to have a child. I really don't see that happening until im 35+ years old.
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On March 06 2004 07:32 Bill and Bill wrote:
You can't adopt a child if you are going to cause the child harm. Being teased, and turning out gay is harmful to a child, because even Terrou says it sucks to be gay, so why would he want to put someone else through that if he isn't selfish?
Because my child most likely WOULDNT be gay. If he decided to disclose the information about me, that would be his choice. If it did somehow got out that i was a homosexual father, i still believe that im equipped with enough skills to get the child through it. It's not like im giving my child a disease or something. You guys make it sound like my childs life wouldnt be worth living because he might get *teased*. Ask anyone on this forum if they would have rather NOT lived because of teasing. Being that i am pretty high on that totem pole, i can tell you that my life is worth it. Sure the teasing sucked when i was young, but i don't regret living the life i have. I woulnd't trade who i am now so i could be a different straight person.
The only issue is whether a homosexual can raise kids with equal parenting skills as a heterosexual. Any hypothetical situation can be improved on or avoided. This arguement is now at rest from my perception: no one is arguing whether a homosexual can have good parenting skills, but only what kind of life that child would lead.
As for gay marriages (the original topic) it seems that most people are in agreement - except for the religious, in which case the celebration of our love they somehow find offensive. So this is also at rest.
Is God really that petty? In all of his brilliance and forgiveness, and love, why would he condemn his children for something they cannot control? Why would he condemn at all? Why would he create a hell, so that man must burn in hell for all eternity, when god is about Love and Forgiveness. I don't get it. Other than being homosexual, in the Christian eyes, im a good person. But because i don't get an erection over a female, im gonna be sent to hell? I just don't fucking get it.
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On March 06 2004 12:57 Teroru wrote: Show nested quote +On March 06 2004 09:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote: On March 06 2004 02:43 Teroru wrote: On March 06 2004 00:16 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Would it suit you, Rei, if I said he and his partner, as a couple, could never have a child? I have more than a few friends who would carry my child. I would even fuck them to do it. Although... i WOULD have to close my eyes, and i would be thinking of George Stults, Brad Pitt, and Matt Damon in a 3some :O Did you read what I said or did it just go in your eyes and out your ears? You and your homosexual buddy will never have a child together, capesh? I do not believe in monogamy. I do not plan on having a long-term homosexual partner. If one of my female friends got insemenated, it would be my intent for me and her to raise the child together. If she did not wish to have child, i would attempt to be a single parent. However, i am only 18, and my opinions might change by the time i decide to have a child. I really don't see that happening until im 35+ years old.
I would never want to be a single parent. One person, man or woman, can't do the job of both. As an aside, I've noticed there is a lot of talk on college campuses and high schools where these students have sex with multiple partners then insist he/she can raise the child him/herself. I guess they say that because it's a personal challenge. That's fine for them but it's a selfish motive. How does that benefit the child, or have the child's needs in mind? If you want what's best for the child you need to have two parents =(
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On March 06 2004 11:06 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Nice typing there chief. I'm sorry, I'm afraid I wasn't aware that the world is supposed to conform to the whims of popular society. Relativists. (Yes, that includes "mordern" terminology. If you change the meaning of a word... heh)
Shut the fuck up you ignorant hypocrite. The only thing you want is other people to conform to your narrow-minded, slightly less whimsical views of how society should be. Modern day American christianity is nothing more than a bunch of puritanical people who are so afraid of their own sins that they need a scapegoat to surpress their feelings of doubt and guilt. You fucking go cloth some homeless people like jesus intended you to do, and shut the fuck up about people who are at heart probably ten times the christian you'll ever be.
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