You also forget to take society into account, We can't magically change society in one day and as I said it is what it is, So you are more fortunate to be living with good heterosexual parents than with 2 homosexual parents, because the child will not be lacking of wisdom from either sex and they won't be singled out and attacked for having grown up with gay parents, its needless suffering that no matter how hard you try you can't prevent. I mean take a look at black people today I mean conditions have certainly improved since the 1950's but I have yet to meet one black person who hasn't been victimized by racism in one form or another.

yea blacks and morons should not be allowed to adopt either.

FrEaK[S.sIR]

2373 Posts

March 05 2004 14:00 GMT

#229

On March 05 2004 17:25 Teroru wrote:

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On March 05 2004 17:03 Element)FrEaK wrote:
If his child is 'mentally abused' because he gets teased a little, that would be the fault of taylor(my guess of your name, teroru being japanese for taylor...). A good environment, which it sounds like Taylor can quite easily provide, will make the kid strong emotionally, and if you are strong emotionally, no amount of teasing will take you to the breaking point. I have endured far more than what the normal bullied child gets from bullying and what not, because I am different from alot of people, no I am not gay, but I was very different and therefor stuck out. I went through alot of abuse at school but due to my raising and the environment I grew up in, I became very strong mentally and emotionally and the insults didn't bother me, I was proud of the thing's they would make fun of(quite often the fact I was goth) and there wasn't a damn thing they could do to change that fact.

I picture Taylor's child being the exact same. If and when the children at school learn that his father is a homosexual, they will tease, it is inevitable, the world is full of assholes; however, I stongly believe that with Taylor's beliefs, love and compassion, his son will be a strong child and will go through the teasing day by day and learn to survive it as it will die down when people find no point to it. His son will be teased, just like somebody will be teased for being tall, smart, short, overweight, skinny, or different from the "norm" in any way, shape or form, it is Taylor's job to make sure that he has taught his son to be strong and learn to survive the teasing.

Taylor, I believe you are fully capable of teaching a boy such traits. Your son, if and when you decide to adopt, will be a strong individual because you are obvious a person who is capable of bestowing somebody with such a trait. Your love and compassion seems to lack any limits of any sort, and that will go farther than any female figure will. If you decide to have children, you'd have my full support to do so and any help I could provide, and my heart truly goes out to somebody such as yourself. You are a strong individual who must deal with the twisted ignorance of the world, and for that, my heart aches. You will always have the love and support of people like myself, if you have nothing else.

FrEaK

wow.

thank you, so much. You make the fight worth fighting for.

And yes, my name is Taylor.

i can't think you enough. It's truly amazing how far the truly complimentary can sink after i have built up a wall against so much hate. And boy, does it feel good.

Thanks again sir.

Aye, and I can think of few others more deserving. You defend yourself against these circle arguments with the knowledge that the blatant ignorance will most likely never stop, but you stand true to who and what you are. That, my friend, is very admirable. If these people cannot see that, know at least 1 person can.

Btw, if you wish you can add me on msn or aim, if you have either of the 2.

ElementalFrEaK@hotmail.com

GodBoyHustler69 aim

any others who had me are likely to be promptly deleted.

I hope you win this fight, I really do, though it be a foolish one, as you should not have to fight it in the first place. You are who you are, you cannot change it, and I'm sure that more than anything else, you truly wish you could. All you are trying to do is live with your god given traits, and one of those traits is that your a homosexual. Why is that so hard for people to understand? I wish I could tell you. You are no different than anybody else, you are perfectly "natural" by the DNA that constructs your being, though maybe not the normal of what is human. You are no different in my eyes and no different in the eyes of people who are void of this anti-homosexual ignroance. You are a truly magnificent human being to us, until proven otherwise.

FrEaK

L!MP

Australia2067 Posts

March 05 2004 14:14 GMT

#230

On March 05 2004 01:48 Commander[SB] wrote:

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Of course, and in an ideal world every kid would have a very loving mother and father. But in our not-so-ideal-world with kids already in orphanages, how does a gay couple adopting them hurt anyone in any way?

They still love there kid just as much. And thats really what the world needs the most right now. A little bit of love.

the que for adoption is quite large i understand. in fact it can/does take years to adopt. i have not heard of a single instance where a single parent has adopted.

as for the child, s/he would be put under many prejudices in this world; hurting them.

how they would be raised is another issue.

Vietnam_Oi

Vietnam120 Posts

March 05 2004 14:19 GMT

#231

why do you (all) accept homosexuality? what's your reason? what's your evidence? start at the root of the problem...this will bring more awareness won't it?

ObsoleteLogic

United States3676 Posts

March 05 2004 15:16 GMT

#232

Would it suit you, Rei, if I said he and his partner, as a couple, could never have a child?

Jim

Sweden1965 Posts

March 05 2004 15:22 GMT

#233

On March 05 2004 23:19 Vietnam_Oi wrote:
why do you (all) accept homosexuality? what's your reason? what's your evidence? start at the root of the problem...this will bring more awareness won't it?

I accept it because it is a reality. Do you seriously believe 7% of the population is faking? There is no problem.

Ps. I think that homosexuality will gradually decrease over the generations now that more people can be open about it. However this is a much more advanced topic and probably requieres a lot more knowledge than I have to make an accurate statement.

baal

10541 Posts

March 05 2004 16:28 GMT

#234

terorou you have very good points of view, particulary the one of the zoophilia was pretty good but i kinda felt dissapoint of your view about this issue, i know you want gay people to be equal but you need a lil spoon of something called reality, i hope you can return posting those good post you were used to post insteand of that nonsense pro-gay crap.

STIMEY d okgm fish

Canada6140 Posts

March 05 2004 16:33 GMT

#235

u dont have to accept homosexualey morally, but it does exist. some ppl do it, some ppl feel it for their own gender, and some not for the "opposite" one. why does this happen, i dunno, can/should u "cure" it? that approach has lost credibility apparently, (see references unreferenced).

u can think something is immoral without trying to stop it, or can you? if u relaly think something is immoral i guess its immoral to not try to stop it? morality... tampons

Mora

Canada5235 Posts

March 05 2004 17:43 GMT

#236

On March 06 2004 00:16 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Would it suit you, Rei, if I said he and his partner, as a couple, could never have a child?

I have more than a few friends who would carry my child. I would even fuck them to do it.

Although... i WOULD have to close my eyes, and i would be thinking of George Stults, Brad Pitt, and Matt Damon in a 3some :O

Mora

Canada5235 Posts

March 05 2004 17:44 GMT

#237

Freak, i believe you to be right. You cannot win a war against the ignorant, especially those who willingly persue ignorance.

I'm done until someone comes up with a valid arguement.