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On July 06 2009 13:56 Roffles wrote:
After thinking and contemplating it over, I just don't see how Savior's gonna get a chance to play.
Monster lineup from T1, each of them getting a favorable matchup to play in as well. 3-0 incoming unless Best finds a way to screw up.
Well, Iris did play an impressive game vs Bisu the last time they met; I wouldn't be too fast to write him off.
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On July 06 2009 13:56 Roffles wrote:
After thinking and contemplating it over, I just don't see how Savior's gonna get a chance to play.
Monster lineup from T1, each of them getting a favorable matchup to play in as well. 3-0 incoming unless Best finds a way to screw up.
I wouldn't count CJ out of this, Iris isn't likely to lose to two base arbiters and Skyhigh is capable of beating Fantasy in TvT.
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savior is going to get hyuked
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On July 06 2009 14:22 Undisputed- wrote:
savior is going to get hyuked
+1
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On July 06 2009 11:35 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 11:22 Djabanete wrote:On July 05 2009 11:12 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On July 05 2009 11:09 FragKrag wrote:On July 05 2009 05:42 Djabanete wrote:
In terms of Bo7 depth.... (listing only players that have a realistic shot at winning against an A-class player):
CJ: Kwanro, Effort, Savior, Much, Movie, Skyhigh, Iris.....good (6+)
STX: Calm, July, hero, Hwasin, Kal, Shuttle.......................good (6+)
OZ: Jaedong, Hiya, Backho, Lomo....................................bad (4)
KHAN: Stork, Jangbi, FBH, great.......................................bad (4)
SKT: Bisu, Best, Canata, TheZerg, fantasy.......................OK (5)
Hite: Leta, go.go, Yarnc, type-b, horang2...........................OK (5)
KTF: Flash, ForGG, Lux, Hoejja, Tempest, Violet.......good (6+)
STX: Shuttle really can't do much :< OZ: Lomo? Really? He really isn't that great. Khan: Jangbi in his current condition really can't take anybody. SKT: TheZerg kinda sucks atm, not sure about him. Hite: type-b? Where did that come from? I guess he can take down stork and BeSt, though that's all. KT: forGG, sure, but he's wildly inconsistent, Lux is inconsistent, Hoejja is just bad, Tempest is bad when he doesn't cheese, and that makes him passable. read Djabanete's reply On July 05 2009 11:03 Djabanete wrote:On July 05 2009 10:46 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On July 05 2009 05:42 Djabanete wrote:
In terms of Bo7 depth.... (listing only players that have a realistic shot at winning against an A-class player):
KTF: Flash, ForGG, Lux, Hoejja, Tempest, Violet.......good (6+)
ForGG in last 10 = 4W 6L Luxury in last 10 = 5W 5L Hojja in last 10 = 3 W 7 L Tempest in last 10 = 6 W 4 L ( suprised here ) ForGG and Lux have been slumping hard as of late, and Hoejja sucks in any matchup outside of ZvP and on the map Destination. tempest rarely gets any PL time b/c of Violet I'm talking about players who "have a realistic shot", not who would be favored against, an A-class gamer. More to the point, I think I was fairly even-handed in my estimation of the various teams; although I included some weak players on KTF (nothing gets past you), I was generous to the other teams as well. For example, I gave SKT Best and TheZerg, who are both struggling to break even in recent games. Really, unless you think I'm being biased I don't know what you're trying to say. NOT WHO WILL WIN vs an A class but.. who has the 10% outside chance. The dark horse. The Hoejja > Bisu. Exactly what I mean; Bisu is the better player by far, but if a team can field a six-man line-up whose weakest link is Hoejja, they are setting themselves up to get lucky. which is great, but really blurs the line between teams with real depth, and those who kind of have depth. For example CJ vs KT Effort/Flash, sKyHigh/Violet <- At this point its pretty even with perhaps a slight edge to KT much/forgg, iris/luxury <- here it starts to break down kwanro/hoejja, savior/tempest <- here it really really breaks down. While both teams have 6 players who have a chance of winning vs A class players, CJ has a much stronger 6 man roster. As an addendum, I would almost certainly pick hite as a deeper team than KT even with one less player listed on your chart
You're right, I agree than CJ has a stronger 6-person front than KT, hands down --- unless Lux and ForGG were to (miraculously) return to form. I'd call things even then.
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Russian Federation134 Posts
im wish cj would win but i think im seeing a 3:0 skt1
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On July 06 2009 15:13 JitNik wrote:
im wish cj would win but i think im seeing a 3:0 skt1
YOU CAN SEE THE FUTURE?!?!?
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He thinks he can see the future.
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without effort, cj's chances here are slim :\
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
CJ is hwaiting and will win.
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fantasy
iris
bisu
savior
ace match =).
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United States13896 Posts
Great OP guys, love the effect. Pretty excited to see the VOD's of this tomorrow, this match doesn't really mean much to CJ, but it has the potential for some exciting games.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
sAviOr losing will make me pretty happy :D Anyway, go T1 for 3:0.
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konadora
Singapore66145 Posts
On July 06 2009 17:11 crucifix wrote:
sAviOr losing will make me pretty happy :D Anyway, go T1 for 3:0.
=___________=
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
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why does SKT T1 even put up with Hyuk?
he's absolutely horrible
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konadora
Singapore66145 Posts
On July 06 2009 17:46 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote:
why does SKT T1 even put up with their zergs?
they're absolutely horrible
Fixed
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it will go to ACE match definitely.
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EPT
