[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus - Page 6

On July 05 2009 04:16 Zato-1 wrote:

Given the map, SKT can expect EffOrt to come out for the ace game, so sending out anyone other than Bisu would be folly. Then again, I'm expecting 3-0 or 3-1 for SKT so I wouldn't worry much about the ace game yet.

On July 05 2009 05:34 DreaM)XeRO wrote:

I'd make a good argument that Fantasy could beat Effort. Look at his record recently. He is currently on a 10 win streak against players such as Leta, Kal and Jangbi. His win over type-b in the OSL was impressive, and showcases his TvZ very well

On July 05 2009 05:45 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I'm tentative about Tempest because we haven't seen from him in so long. Same for July, though I'm sure he has some fight left.

On July 05 2009 07:02 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Hite also has Hogil, who's as good as Type-B at the very least.

An interesting note on the 3 good depth teams (CJ, STX, and Hite to a degree) with their six man line up, they are all 3 half zerg (CJ is Kwanro, Effort, Savior, Hite is Hogil, Yarnc, Type-B, STX is Calm, July, Hero). That means that, once best of seven hits, I think the teams with the best overall vZ line up will be able to take down the 'depth' teams that look like shoe ins.

With the exception to Khan, I think all the other teams are suspiciously good vs zerg. SKT has Bisu, Fantasy (With prep time ofc), and TheZerg (who's only reasonable match up is ZvZ, honestly). Oz? Jaedong is an autowin, Hiya fairs alright, and Lomo's specialty is Zerg -- Backho's also improved his PvZ immensely.

And let's not forget the arguable best anti zerg team (I know I know I'm biased, but hear me out): KT. KT's got Lux, formerly second best ZvZer and still capable of taking those games, Flash who has no weak match ups (he's been performing poorly lately, I'll admit, but this is all in theory and Flash is the only player who's never had an honestly weak match up), ForGG still has a sickening TvZ rate, and if he steps up he's arguably the best TvZer around. Violet, while underperforming ultra recently against the likes of Jaedong and Effort, still has shown obscenely impressive PvZs before. The only suspect players are Hoejja, who's formerly painfully bad results vZ have drastically improved, and Tempest who only seems to be able to pull out big games against good zergs (Ousting both Zero and Jaedong from GOM before).

I think if KT gets to a Bo7, and turns on even a little bit of their juice, they could absolutely trash the "depth" teams who seem to mostly rely on their Zerg line up (whereas KT's line up is 2 of each race, amusingly).

Kind of sad that their Playoff future doesn't look bright.

On July 05 2009 06:33 Mykill wrote:
those predictions are a little bias.
Hyuk over sAviOr? its SKT1 zerg!!!!

Ace match probable


CJ ENTUSS!!!!!

On July 05 2009 05:47 SuperArc wrote:
Well Tempest is doing good in Gom, so he cant be horrible.

On July 05 2009 05:42 Djabanete wrote:
In terms of Bo7 depth.... (listing only players that have a realistic shot at winning against an A-class player):

CJ: Kwanro, Effort, Savior, Much, Movie, Skyhigh, Iris.....good (6+)
STX: Calm, July, hero, Hwasin, Kal, Shuttle.......................good (6+)
OZ: Jaedong, Hiya, Backho, Lomo....................................bad (4)
KHAN: Stork, Jangbi, FBH, great.......................................bad (4)
SKT: Bisu, Best, Canata, TheZerg, fantasy.......................OK (5)
Hite: Leta, go.go, Yarnc, type-b, horang2...........................OK (5)
KTF: Flash, ForGG, Lux, Hoejja, Tempest, Violet.......good (6+)

On July 05 2009 05:42 Djabanete wrote:
In terms of Bo7 depth.... (listing only players that have a realistic shot at winning against an A-class player):
CJ: Kwanro, Effort, Savior, Much, Movie***, Skyhigh, Iris.....good (6+)

On July 05 2009 05:42 Djabanete wrote:
In terms of Bo7 depth.... (listing only players that have a realistic shot at winning against an A-class player):
KTF: Flash, ForGG, Lux, Hoejja, Tempest, Violet.......good (6+)

On July 05 2009 10:39 DreaM)XeRO wrote:


You are kidding right? As of now if you think that Much LET ALONE TEMPEST can take a game against an A class player, you are sorely mistaken.

-Movie has been demoted to B team on the CJ team so he wont be played
-Shuttle? Really?
-Thezerg is wildly inconsistant
-ForGG Lux Hoejja and Tempest are playing GODAWFUL. I dont even know the last time Tempest was played. Lux is playing like a kid with down syndrome and ForGG flat out plays like Tossgirl.

On July 05 2009 10:46 DreaM)XeRO wrote:

ForGG in last 10 = 4W 6L
Luxury in last 10 = 5W 5L
Hojja in last 10 = 3 W 7 L
Tempest in last 10 = 6 W 4 L ( suprised here )

ForGG and Lux have been slumping hard as of late, and Hoejja sucks in any matchup outside of ZvP and on the map Destination. tempest rarely gets any PL time b/c of Violet