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Flopgun
Profile Joined August 2005
Germany274 Posts
June 27 2008 12:21 GMT
#21
They changed the best mappool ever to this ? Oo
Jaedong fighting
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
June 27 2008 12:27 GMT
#22
GOD DAMN.
This is so retarded.
YES ADD NEW PRO MAPS THAT WERE PLAYED ABOUT 20 TIMES.
Yes ALL THE FOREIGNERS practiced for NOTHING the last 3 months.
GOOD JOB WCG THANK YOU.
Python/Blue/Tau/Gaia/Peaks was probably the BEST and most balanced map pool that WCG ever ever ever ever could have gotten... and now you do what?
Just leave thing all out to the Koreans who practice those maps 15h a day anyway?
Thats just not fair.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
June 27 2008 12:30 GMT
#23
Everyone complain on the wcg site.

They might reverse the decision.
#1 Terran hater
Excello.ChOseN
Profile Joined April 2008
United States82 Posts
June 27 2008 12:44 GMT
#24
Heres the reasoning behind why this was a horrible move. They took away the maps that some nations have already used. For instance USA is already will shortly be in their regional stage. Other nations have more, some have less done. However it is debatbale whether the nations will change the maps. So which maps should we practice for ? The new maps, or the old maps? Clearly this will probally be different for different countries. If we have to practice the old maps for our national, they are effectivly giving us 9 maps for WCG this year. Its completely stupid. The idea that we can make the koreans happy above all foreigners is a crummy PR related move.

As well as removing some maps that we have played, and have practiced for a long time, python peaks so forth, they added new pro-league maps. Troy is an example of an unbalanced map, favoriing p>z as the p can just turtle for 2 hours. If we could manage to get a thread going as a "petition thread" where all who posted in it, would have their name put into a TL.Net Email to WCG, this might cause some WCG interest. If we could have an admin open such a thread where we all put our names down, then have some1 write this email with all those names of those who posted in it I would be the first name ^^. Anyway I hope we can find some way to change WCG's mind.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
June 27 2008 12:47 GMT
#25
rofl ;D well i love those map anyway ! only andromeda suxs xD
<3 blue,troy,othello!
750/750 emotions fully stacked
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
June 27 2008 12:50 GMT
#26
*signs shawn simon*
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
June 27 2008 12:56 GMT
#27
wow...
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
June 27 2008 12:57 GMT
#28
Again, they probably did this under pressure of WCG Korea.
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
June 27 2008 13:26 GMT
#29
TROY??? Are you fucking kidding me?
Pulp can move, baby!
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 13:40:54
June 27 2008 13:40 GMT
#30
Argh I cant even stand watching replays and vods on Troy. That map is just awful. They might as well go back to the 2001 maps, atleast those maps are fun to watch games on.

EDIT:I'd rather se fastest than Troy.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
June 27 2008 13:49 GMT
#31
this really sucks..
"whats that korea? you want those maps? ok, I'm sorry rest of the world!"
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
June 27 2008 13:49 GMT
#32
WTF ? Stop whinning bitches...
As if you play like the progamers and know everything about imbalances... Jesus fucking christ. Don't make me laugh plz cauz you obviously don't know wtf you're really talking about.
It's soooo fucking nice that we got rid of this shitty map pool that is gaia paranoid baekdudaeganwhatever.

God just stop talking like sh!t without even mentionning any argument to remove theses maps.

Again stop whinning plz thanks.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 27 2008 13:50 GMT
#33
On June 27 2008 21:19 FrozenArbiter wrote:
lol troy

I haven't found WCG nearly as interesting ever since they stopped using their own maps. Way cooler that way.
what.. this year?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
June 27 2008 13:52 GMT
#34
On June 27 2008 22:49 RaiZ wrote:
WTF ? Stop whinning bitches...
As if you play like the progamers and know everything about imbalances... Jesus fucking christ. Don't make me laugh plz cauz you obviously don't know wtf you're really talking about.
It's soooo fucking nice that we got rid of this shitty map pool that is gaia paranoid baekdudaeganwhatever.

God just stop talking like sh!t without even mentionning any argument to remove theses maps.

Again stop whinning plz thanks.


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/168_Troy

It seems to me that troy just might be a little bit hard for zergs.
My personal main consern is that it is boring tho.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
June 27 2008 14:09 GMT
#35
40 games played...
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 14:14:42
June 27 2008 14:12 GMT
#36
wtf.... YOU MUST BE JOKING!!!

edit: Now I actually have to practice.... I've only played these maps a handful of times. Tau and Python are my best maps and I just know i'll suck on Troy even though it's a P map.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
June 27 2008 14:15 GMT
#37
Then let me say you that I love this map. I got SO fucking bored of all those macro boring maps where we ALWAYS do the same shit. Bring back lotem, dire strait (Yes i'm zerg and yes i lose against protoss so what ? It doesn't change the fact that this map is just INTERESTING to play) and whatever, hell even bifrost, god i love bifrost, so many cheesy strats that were just pure fun.

Fuk macro boring python, fuk gaia and its obstacles and critter everywhere that just annoy the sh!t out of me, Tau cross is OK just macro as well and it doesn't have ramps so less strategics bo, baek is just plain boring because we have to scout all over the maps in order to prevent any greedy bases, and its center is just painfull to play. And no i don't like them just because i lose everytime on them, in fact i've a positive ratio on all those maps, it's just that it's so boring to play nothing more. Hell i'll stop there because i may face so many haters now that i've mentionned all my thoughts.

I'll just say : stop whining.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
June 27 2008 14:20 GMT
#38
On June 27 2008 21:04 Excello.ChOseN wrote:
I Hate Wcg. Pure Hate, at the only tournament run with the exact opposite of professionalism. Might as well be a tournament run by 10 year olds all randomly changing things during the tournament. I Hate Wcg.

*NODS*
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
June 27 2008 14:20 GMT
#39
On June 27 2008 21:27 iNfeRnaL wrote:
GOD DAMN.
This is so retarded.
YES ADD NEW PRO MAPS THAT WERE PLAYED ABOUT 20 TIMES.
Yes ALL THE FOREIGNERS practiced for NOTHING the last 3 months.
GOOD JOB WCG THANK YOU.
Python/Blue/Tau/Gaia/Peaks was probably the BEST and most balanced map pool that WCG ever ever ever ever could have gotten... and now you do what?
Just leave thing all out to the Koreans who practice those maps 15h a day anyway?
Thats just not fair.

*NODS*
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 27 2008 14:23 GMT
#40
This seems really unfair to all of the non-Korean players, who now won't have a chance to practice the maps. If the decision came earlier it would be understandable, but even forgetting map quality/balance issues the simple act of changing the maps this late is unfair to anyone who was preparing for the old maps specifically (i.e. all non-Koreans).

The argument against the new maps from a balance perspective is more subjective than the "screwing foreigners" perspective. WCG players will probably have more luck if they talk about their practice time on the former map pool rather than just saying "WTF these maps suck".
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