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[MSL] Jaedong vs. Flash Ro8 - GomTV S4 Feb 14 - Page 20

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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 14 2008 10:46 GMT
#381
On February 14 2008 19:45 G.s)NarutO wrote:
by the way

GAME 2 PREDICTION, JAEDONG BS SKILLS WINS THE GAME [X]CORRECT []WRONG

:D:D sorry I'm hyped

I feel with you, as you cannot watch the game
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
February 14 2008 10:47 GMT
#382
valks take so much time to make. u need to gather quite a few (like 5-6 minimum) before using them (or they go down in a snap and which makes them unusable in a situation like this one where flash needed antiair immediately. maybe they're viable with a very well timed build but it would be a very specific "anti-mass muta" build and would suck vs other stuff I suppose
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
February 14 2008 10:47 GMT
#383
Seriously, how many turrets does it take these days to defend your mineral line? Muta control is so sexy it seems like 5 isn't enough anymore.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
February 14 2008 10:47 GMT
#384
On February 14 2008 19:46 disciple wrote:
offtopic : when will we see Bisu in the red uniform ?


Tomorow in the OSL against Much probably.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 14 2008 10:47 GMT
#385
On February 14 2008 19:46 disciple wrote:
offtopic : when will we see Bisu in the red uniform ?

I was wondering as well - maybe tomorrow if today was goodbye ceremony? Besides, it is not decided that he is going to be red, there is also a white outfit iirc.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
buddhabeads
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia14 Posts
February 14 2008 10:47 GMT
#386
On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote:
flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts
once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out
MM cant back up his wraiths


i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing


The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy,

Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
February 14 2008 10:48 GMT
#387
On February 14 2008 19:45 G.s)NarutO wrote:
by the way

GAME 2 PREDICTION, JAEDONG BS SKILLS WINS THE GAME [X]CORRECT []WRONG

:D:D sorry I'm hyped

I don't blame you. Amazing first 2 games. Mistakes or not, both players are playing brilliantly, so amazing to watch.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
February 14 2008 10:48 GMT
#388
On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote:
flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts
once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out
MM cant back up his wraiths


i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing


The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy,

Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.


what else can you do?
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 14 2008 10:50 GMT
#389
^^ thanks guys for not blaming me.. I'm sitting here enjoying your live reports haha... :D! I need coke, brb!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
February 14 2008 10:50 GMT
#390
On February 14 2008 19:48 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote:
flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts
once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out
MM cant back up his wraiths


i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing


The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy,

Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.


what else can you do?


Seriously, what is with all of these monday morning quarterbacks. Going mech was not going to work.
Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
February 14 2008 10:50 GMT
#391
On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote:
flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts
once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out
MM cant back up his wraiths


i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing


The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy,

Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.


Gollies are weak against Mutas due to their damage type
Even with less range, rines are better.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
February 14 2008 10:50 GMT
#392
On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote:
flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts
once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out
MM cant back up his wraiths


i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing


The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy,

Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.


i think he had 1 group in his main and 1 group in his expo , not waiting to get out but waiting for muta to arrive so he could attack them directly.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
February 14 2008 10:50 GMT
#393
On February 14 2008 19:48 Sunyveil wrote:
what else can you do?


you gunna do nuthin, you gunna die?

/hit with bricks by all the other posters in this thread
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
February 14 2008 10:50 GMT
#394
so he was preparing for the MU with Much in the MBC training camp? dunno...think Bisu will lose tomorrow because of the emotional ceremony today. Go Bisu !
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
February 14 2008 10:51 GMT
#395
On February 14 2008 19:48 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote:
flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts
once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out
MM cant back up his wraiths


i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing


The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy,

Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.


what else can you do?


He seems to think you go goliaths vs mass mutas, even though they deal 9 damage to +1 mutas, cost 100/50 instead of 50/0, can't be healed quickly, are slow, and get owned by a mix of mutas and lings.
I <3 서지훈
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
February 14 2008 10:52 GMT
#396
On February 14 2008 19:51 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2008 19:48 Sunyveil wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:47 buddhabeads wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:41 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 14 2008 19:38 buddhabeads wrote:
flash went for the wrong tactic there MM force no chance against mass muts
once JD started producing muts flash shouldv switched to goliath and pushed out
MM cant back up his wraiths


i dont think its a good idea to mech against 2 hatch muta... first you must have rines to protect the turrets, and if u start making goliaths it means u have a moment when your unit count is low, (u stop producing marines) and then he would be destroyed. flash did the right thing


The problem with MMs is that they get picked off way too easy. Each marine cost 50 minerals and they often die to one stacked mut attack without dealing any dmgs. Same goes with turrets, they get taken out too easy,

Flash only used one group of marines to defend against the mut harass he had another group waiting to push ou. I think he produced too many marines, once JD's muts reached a critical mass, marines become utterly useless.


what else can you do?


He seems to think you go goliaths vs mass mutas, even though they deal 9 damage to +1 mutas, cost 100/50 instead of 50/0, can't be healed quickly, are slow, and get owned by a mix of mutas and lings.


ic

I withdraw my statements in that case
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
February 14 2008 10:53 GMT
#397
Is anyone else getting a loud ringin noise with their stream?
Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
February 14 2008 10:53 GMT
#398
Loki II
Flash White@1
Jaedong Blue@7
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-14 10:53:57
February 14 2008 10:53 GMT
#399
Loki Twoooooooooooo,

White Flash, right, Blue Jaedong, left.
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kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
February 14 2008 10:55 GMT
#400
hero scouting scv taking out jaedong egg
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