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gravity
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines635 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium5194 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46231 Posts
On September 09 2025 19:45 SkelA wrote: Best is the better player but he got blindsided with the tech switch. He also didn't scout early on, and got caught off guard with that simple hydra bust. Having a 2nd cannon at his natural's wall would have been extremely helpful. | ||
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barcodejester
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RowdierBob
Australia13430 Posts
I guess Best really thought True was going to go early mutas and went a hard counter with the DA. But True just made lots of drones instead and the game was all but over by the time Best could move out. Great play from True though. His counter play and defiler defence was spot on. | ||
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TMNT
3247 Posts
On September 09 2025 19:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: He also didn't scout early on, and got caught off guard with that simple hydra bust. Having a 2nd cannon at his natural's wall would have been extremely helpful. He confirmed Lair and the map is not designed in favor of a Hydra bust. What more do you want? Can't play like noob level where you can place something blindly "just in case" for extra safe measure because it doesn't matter in the long term since your opponents are bad too. Zerg doesn't make extra lings, Terran doesn't make extra Turrets blindly "just in case" like that too. | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines635 Posts
On September 09 2025 19:50 barcodejester wrote: like i said good chance we get 0 toss in ro8. Protoss is just not on the level of Z & T in overall faction strength, map balance and player ability. aiur has been the punching bag in BW and it will continue. buff scouts maybe that could make protoss stronger :^) | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
I know im a fucking nooby but i'd love to see someone good make 2 DA and leverage the mana pool aggressively. I just wanna see it one time. | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines635 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46231 Posts
On September 09 2025 19:54 TMNT wrote: He confirmed Lair and the map is not designed in favor of a Hydra bust. What more do you want? Can't play like noob level where you can place something blindly "just in case" for extra safe measure because it doesn't matter in the long term since your opponents are bad too. Zerg doesn't make extra lings, Terran doesn't make extra Turrets blindly "just in case" like that too. So the only way to hold off an early game hydra bust is to "play like noob level" and play "blindly"? Come on. I wanted Best to win, but he fell behind from the start because he didn't check/recheck for hydras. That's pretty significant. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51109 Posts
On September 09 2025 20:00 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: whats stopping toss from going mass DA, lack of gas? its not that the gas investment is too much, its part of it but really, 2 dts are always going to be more useful than a DA in most situations. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13430 Posts
On September 09 2025 19:56 RogerChillingworth wrote: Best scouted a lair with hidden probe but True canceled it after killing the probe. Then went hydras. Like it's w/e but Best got like no value out of the DA and didn't really try anything else. I know im a fucking nooby but i'd love to see someone good make 2 DA and leverage the mana pool aggressively. I just wanna see it one time. I've seen it done with great success vs mass hydra and lurker. But heavy lurker and ling builds counter DAs pretty hard. Maelstrom isn't good vs lings and DAs are a bitch to micro against defilers. They're awesome vs muta balls but I think reavers are probably a better late game investment. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On September 09 2025 20:00 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: whats stopping toss from going mass DA, lack of gas? i just think people find it suboptimal/slow/bad but i've never actually seen someone creative and good use it. Maybe 1 to counter mutas or 1 maelstrom on ground units before it gets popped then that's it. i get that it's hard to control and prolly better in my head than in practice but i still wanna see it. the cool thing is they're a lot faster than HT. IDK. w/e | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On September 09 2025 20:03 RowdierBob wrote: I've seen it done with great success vs mass hydra and lurker. But heavy lurker and ling builds counter DAs pretty hard. Maelstrom isn't good vs lings and DAs are a bitch to micro against defilers. They're awesome vs muta balls but I think reavers are probably a better late game investment. fair. i know this isn't warcraft 3 too, so you're not mega-babysitting your casters but in the midgame i feel like you can probably devote some extra APM to it. maybe just too situational and if you lose one you're more pissed than losing a HT for free. | ||
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gravity
Australia2198 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46231 Posts
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines635 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
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