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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines479 Posts
September 09 2025 11:24 GMT
#81
bisu showed up today
Yuru Yuri best anime
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13358 Posts
September 09 2025 11:24 GMT
#82
On September 09 2025 20:21 Velr wrote:
Who cairs?


Sorry... Cairs is absolutely horrible, you should feel very bad

I will fight you all.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
September 09 2025 11:25 GMT
#83
On September 09 2025 20:19 RowdierBob wrote:
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On September 09 2025 20:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On September 09 2025 20:15 RowdierBob wrote:
On September 09 2025 20:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On September 09 2025 20:07 RowdierBob wrote:
I hope Bisu keeps making cairs. A muta ball is coming soon.


you know its bothering me for a while how you spell corsairs or sairs.

then again its better than c-sairs.

It'll always be cairs to me you American heathen.


since when did I become american?

About 2 mins ago it seems.


but I don't wanna be american.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3131 Posts
September 09 2025 11:26 GMT
#84
On September 09 2025 20:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On September 09 2025 19:54 TMNT wrote:
On September 09 2025 19:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 09 2025 19:45 SkelA wrote:
Best is the better player but he got blindsided with the tech switch.


He also didn't scout early on, and got caught off guard with that simple hydra bust. Having a 2nd cannon at his natural's wall would have been extremely helpful.

He confirmed Lair and the map is not designed in favor of a Hydra bust. What more do you want? Can't play like noob level where you can place something blindly "just in case" for extra safe measure because it doesn't matter in the long term since your opponents are bad too. Zerg doesn't make extra lings, Terran doesn't make extra Turrets blindly "just in case" like that too.


So the only way to hold off an early game hydra bust is to "play like noob level" and play "blindly"? Come on. I wanted Best to win, but he fell behind from the start because he didn't check/recheck for hydras. That's pretty significant.

The only sure way, actually yes, as in "if you do this you're completely fine against that specific play, regardless of what your opponent does".

But that's not how BW is played and certainly not how the game is played at pro level. You get scouting information and react according to the information you have, and you gain advantage by building what's useful and skipping what's not useful for you according to that information.

Best was not holding off a hydra bust, according to the scouting information he had, plus the map and spawn conditions. In BW unless you have map hack you rarely confirm something at 100% and you only make your decisions based on the 70-80% you obtain from scouting and meta. The information Best had dictates a normal game where your first Corsair is supposed to get the first Overlord and return home to avoid Scourges. By the way I doubt that if that Corsair headed towards BTS's main, the second Cannon would be on time anyway.

Also Best did try to recheck by sending 1 Zealot out but it got caught by Lings).

This kind of games (where Zerg cancel Lair and go for a Hydra bust) always happens from time to time and there's no real counter other than luck. Bisu died like that twice against Soulkey in recent seasons.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3131 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-09 11:26:22
September 09 2025 11:26 GMT
#85
Bisu shoulda paused the game after killing that drone.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13358 Posts
September 09 2025 11:29 GMT
#86
Bleh True should show more faith in himself for game 1. He just took down a top Protoss in a macro game. All in isn’t the play there.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1247 Posts
September 09 2025 11:31 GMT
#87
This is a phenomenal group for Bisu. Auto-win in Bo3 PvP + 2 zergs that don't like to use their brain too much.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3131 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-09 11:32:37
September 09 2025 11:31 GMT
#88
On September 09 2025 20:29 RowdierBob wrote:
Bleh True should show more faith in himself for game 1. He just took down a top Protoss in a macro game. All in isn’t the play there.

He gets to play Bisu in the winner of Ro16 by doing all-ins and tricks all along the way and got lucky with them. Gross.

I blame you Hero.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
September 09 2025 11:33 GMT
#89
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

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14%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

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(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1256 Posts
September 09 2025 11:36 GMT
#90
On September 09 2025 20:24 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 20:21 Velr wrote:
Who cairs?


Sorry... Cairs is absolutely horrible, you should feel very bad

I will fight you all.


Sorry mate I'm with them, "Cairs" is gross hahah
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3131 Posts
September 09 2025 11:37 GMT
#91
True with that ill 100 DPI game. Looks like he's playing air hockey.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2041 Posts
September 09 2025 11:38 GMT
#92
Guess Bisu wasn't expecting Hydras after that early Muta play.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2041 Posts
September 09 2025 11:39 GMT
#93
He went really hard on sairs.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3131 Posts
September 09 2025 11:39 GMT
#94
Another game full of tricks from BTS. What a bullshit player.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
September 09 2025 11:39 GMT
#95
shshshshshshshshsh
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
September 09 2025 11:40 GMT
#96
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

No (7)
 
58%

Yes (3)
 
25%

If you have time (2)
 
17%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines479 Posts
September 09 2025 11:40 GMT
#97
do we prepare the bucket
Yuru Yuri best anime
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13358 Posts
September 09 2025 11:41 GMT
#98
Shine 2.0 doing this to Bisu is a lol.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13358 Posts
September 09 2025 11:41 GMT
#99
On September 09 2025 20:39 gravity wrote:
He went really hard on sairs.

*Cairs.

Ok I’ll stop now.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13074 Posts
September 09 2025 11:41 GMT
#100
BTS came prepared with an whole cheese arsenal.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
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