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TMNT
3132 Posts
On September 14 2025 09:46 mtcn77 wrote: Zero loses by having bunch of units all over the map in different bases while his opponents attack. This is exactly what I (and everyone) said. What's your point? What did I say that was wrong? Can you write a fucking comprehensible sentence or make a clear point? Because I don't know what the hell you're trying to say. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24602 Posts
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mtcn77
Turkey680 Posts
On September 14 2025 10:50 TMNT wrote: This is exactly what I (and everyone) said. What's your point? What did I say that was wrong? Can you write a fucking comprehensible sentence or make a clear point? Because I don't know what the hell you're trying to say. But in the previous thread they didn't make a case that they don't know how Shuttle won vs Queen. You do. At that point you are no longer sharing the common sense, but arguing against it. Let's not forget you only do this to obfuscate the fact BTS wins because of this by calling him boring. When you got to remember he plays zerg, using your whole army is the biggest challenge, so rushes and all the dirty tactics are all fair game because you have an army that you cannot use efficiently at max supply. PS: one wonders why you are so critical of zerg rising stars instead of those who lost their edge such as Queen, babying them by calling they threw the game when they lose. Winning by the slimmest margins is the thrill of Starcraft. Winning by a lot, BTS has nothing against him. GG! | ||
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felleN
Australia78 Posts
I think a protoss player has a real chance of winning this season | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey680 Posts
On September 14 2025 15:45 felleN wrote: Best outcome possible for this group. I really enjoyed theses games. I think a protoss player has a real chance of winning this season Yeah, Best survived. The prince that was promised. | ||
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TMNT
3132 Posts
On September 14 2025 15:23 mtcn77 wrote: But in the previous thread they didn't make a case that they don't know how Shuttle won vs Queen. You do. At that point you are no longer sharing the common sense, but arguing against it. Let's not forget you only do this to obfuscate the fact BTS wins because of this by calling him boring. When you got to remember he plays zerg, using your whole army is the biggest challenge, so rushes and all the dirty tactics are all fair game because you have an army that you cannot use efficiently at max supply. PS: one wonders why you are so critical of zerg rising stars instead of those who lost their edge such as Queen, babying them by calling they threw the game when they lose. Winning by the slimmest margins is the thrill of Starcraft. Winning by a lot, BTS has nothing against him. GG! Honestly this dude can't even string 2 sentences together and make sense of them. If you want to make a conversation with someone, speak English (or human language). I give up. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8052 Posts
On September 14 2025 16:18 TMNT wrote: Honestly this dude can't even string 2 sentences together and make sense of them. If you want to make a conversation with someone, speak English (or human language). I give up. Condolences we’ve all been there. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2428 Posts
On September 14 2025 16:18 TMNT wrote: Honestly this dude can't even string 2 sentences together and make sense of them. If you want to make a conversation with someone, speak English (or human language). I give up. You tried your best. Some people are just living Dunning-Kruger peaks and there's no fighting it. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On September 10 2025 02:00 TMNT wrote: Nah. That's just a disingenuous way to put it. "When Zerg wins it's evidence ZvP is Zerg favored" = we are referring to the global ZvP win rate which has always been in favor of Zerg. "When Protoss wins? It's also evidence ZvP is Zerg favored" = we are talking about some isolated incidents today (I'm talking about the BTS games) when the Protoss, who is 1 tier above the Zerg, could have lost because of the matchup design, and should have lost if the Zerg was at same tier skillwise, but still won because the Zerg made some baffling moves when he was leading. You don't have any idea what the meta state of zvp is nowdays. Zergs are forced to to do hydra lurk and sometimes attack into P army because standard game is so hard on these maps with wide chokepoints. You cant line up your lurkers in defensive position like you can do on maps like poly/FS. Y'll think zergs can just do anything they want but they can't because maps give P good early game defensive set up while giving zergs nothing for their defensive set up in mid game. Hence why this kind of things happen. Zerg becomes desperate to gain something in early game/mid game which is why there's so much ling runbys or hydra busts. It really on protoss to defend it and once they get used to it this happens. Protoss starts winning because the ultimate final meta on these new maps is playing standard games and that's where it does not favor zergs. So funny to think people thought zergs would dominate but it was the protoss who eliminated these zergs  and MTCN has a point where protoss can just 1a2a3a4a5a in one move while zerg has its units placed everywhere. Zerg's weakness is in lurkers being burrowed and needing to be unburrowed to deal with toss deathball and as i said, the widechoke point leads to extreme vulnerability... if you're in defensive positions on these maps you get easily flanked on one side and your lurkers die easily. This is why so many zergs try to attack into P army, hoping for a flank but they can't and it leads to such "crazy" errors by BTS. | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
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Barneyk
Sweden310 Posts
I am so glad he was able to bring it all together and come out winning! | ||
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goody153
44252 Posts
Also Bisu's double stargate when it works just smashes zerg lol Also Best clawing through the group to get out with especially with two incredible cheeses like who does gateway proxy on the base lmao there';s even that 3rd base canon rush lol Double protoss on Ro8 for this group. Best really clutched here | ||
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goody153
44252 Posts
On September 14 2025 15:45 felleN wrote: Best outcome possible for this group. I really enjoyed theses games. I think a protoss player has a real chance of winning this season Real chance? I'm almost certain Snow wins this ASL with Soulkey out Like seriously it has been few seasons with only soulkey really stopping Snow. Then we even have two extra protoss. Protoss is probably favored for the the playoffs | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4246 Posts
 GGs! | ||
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