EPTSo is ASL gone?
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inflection
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outscar
2832 Posts
 2021 AfreecaTV StarCraft Team League Season 2 , so expect it around march-april. | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4246 Posts
it will come after the ASTL S2 probably like a month of waiting. 910 already posted couple of maps that are in the process of reviewing for ASL 11 and there is a map made by Minerals amongst them, called "Turbine"  | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5783 Posts
On February 12 2021 16:16 M3t4PhYzX wrote: of course it's not gone.. it will come after the ASTL S2 probably like a month of waiting. 910 already posted couple of maps that are in the process of reviewing for ASL 11 and there is a map made by Minerals amongst them, called "Turbine" Which I have to say looks best out of those currently being reviewed. ^__^ | ||
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EagleEagle
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oxKnu
1247 Posts
On February 13 2021 01:30 EagleEagle wrote: Wait, so there are not rumors that ASL is canceling the ASL tournament? Because they are apparently making budget cuts for ASTL, not using English casters for example. There has never been any English commentary for team leagues in recent years from Afreeca. | ||
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Galacsia
Chile163 Posts
On February 13 2021 01:30 EagleEagle wrote: Wait, so there are not rumors that ASL is canceling the ASL tournament? Because they are apparently making budget cuts for ASTL, not using English casters for example. They did the same for ASTL1 and we did get ASL10 with english casting afterwards. They had good viewership numbers on ASL10 too, so I wouldn't worry about there being no more ASL. At most they could end up removing english casting. That's something to fear, specially after Tasteless' words on the finale of ASL10. | ||
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FakeFin
Germany392 Posts
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Pippah
Denmark356 Posts
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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radley
Poland582 Posts
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On February 13 2021 02:14 Galacsia wrote: They did the same for ASTL1 and we did get ASL10 with english casting afterwards. They had good viewership numbers on ASL10 too, so I wouldn't worry about there being no more ASL. At most they could end up removing english casting. That's something to fear, specially after Tasteless' words on the finale of ASL10. The only credence I give to this is the fact that Tasteless & Artosis have branched out and are now casting both PUBG and Valorant events in Korea. Which means at least in theory, they are worried about their future in 2021 in terms of casting BW/SC2 events. But I think this is very unlikely, and that it is far more likely that Tastosis are branching out to earn extra money from not having a current ASL or GSL to cast. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
What worries more is the lack of foreign hype in the recent ASTL. I'm just basing this from the low number of posts in the LR thread (maybe the actual viewer numbers are more encouraging). I really don't get why the existence of foreign casters should be a factor. Personally, I'll watch any BW (or even SC2) tourney with or without an English cast. Same goes for any sport I'm passionate in. Watching a football match with Latin American commentators is just as entertaining (if not even more than boring English ones) though I don't understand much Spanish. I can understand how casting may make a difference to casual viewers. But I'm guessing most BW and SC2 viewers are hardcore fans familiar with the game. Casting really shouldn't be a factor. | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
ACS has to be played first and then ASL follow up. | ||
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oxKnu
1247 Posts
On February 13 2021 13:30 RKC wrote: Understandable for professional casters to diversity their portfolio. No esport game is guaranteed to sustain a lifetime career (closest is BW?). What worries more is the lack of foreign hype in the recent ASTL. I'm just basing this from the low number of posts in the LR thread (maybe the actual viewer numbers are more encouraging). I really don't get why the existence of foreign casters should be a factor. Personally, I'll watch any BW (or even SC2) tourney with or without an English cast. Same goes for any sport I'm passionate in. Watching a football match with Latin American commentators is just as entertaining (if not even more than boring English ones) though I don't understand much Spanish. I can understand how casting may make a difference to casual viewers. But I'm guessing most BW and SC2 viewers are hardcore fans familiar with the game. Casting really shouldn't be a factor. It's the same as it's always been (not just in BW, just in everything really incl. sports). The hardcore/devoted fans won't care too much about the extra things: like atmosphere/casters/hype etc. While the casuals will over-value those vs. the actual games/sport etc. Thus the current situation. I would say that everything would be better if the event was live and/or casted on youtube. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On February 13 2021 20:29 oxKnu wrote: It's the same as it's always been (not just in BW, just in everything really incl. sports). The hardcore/devoted fans won't care too much about the extra things: like atmosphere/casters/hype etc. While the casuals will over-value those vs. the actual games/sport etc. Thus the current situation. I would say that everything would be better if the event was live and/or casted on youtube. True, but I feel the value of casting is over-stated in traditional sports. Take the World Cup - the biggest sporting event. Lots of my friends who don't know much about football and hardly watch a game in normal times will tune in to the matches. In fact, most of them are so 'casual' and 'noob' that they don't understand the majority of stuff the commentator is saying. But they know enough of the game to roughly keep track of the score and momentum of the game (possession, shots on goals, etc.). Yes, it's all about the hype. Office pool, media buzz, etc. Casting helps the hype, but the effect is miniscule compared to all other factors. Of course, traditional sports are more intuitive to the casual viewer. But that's the same for esports. I really doubt there's a large segment of casual viewers who have trouble following the game on their own and will only tune in the game when there's a English caster. | ||
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Master of DalK
Canada1803 Posts
On February 13 2021 12:50 Chris_Havoc wrote: The only credence I give to this is the fact that Tasteless & Artosis have branched out and are now casting both PUBG and Valorant events in Korea. Which means at least in theory, they are worried about their future in 2021 in terms of casting BW/SC2 events. But I think this is very unlikely, and that it is far more likely that Tastosis are branching out to earn extra money from not having a current ASL or GSL to cast. People say this stuff whenever Tastosis do anything different but they've done PUBG for a while, World of Tanks before that, even dota once. Generally when a studio like that has a requirement to fulfill an english broadcast they'll just grab someone that's gamer-y and has broadcast chops, and Tastosis are the easiest to grab for gigs since Afreeca works with them already so much. | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
Info can be found here http://bj.afreecatv.com/kuyol/post/68299198 On February 13 2021 16:38 Kaolla wrote: If they actually streamed it on any other platform than Afreeca, I'm sure foreign viewership and engagement would be just a bit better at least... Although, of course, it is still a small community, so wouldn't expect too much more than a few pages of comments here on TL. It is unfortunate that ASTL2 isn't being streamed on youtube. Afreeca buffers randomly for me and i have to refresh the page.  | ||
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Muirhead
United States556 Posts
On February 14 2021 09:04 MineraIs wrote: It is unfortunate that ASTL2 isn't being streamed on youtube. Afreeca buffers randomly for me and i have to refresh the page. I would be so happy if we got youtube VODs of the ASTL matches, even without English commentary | ||
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inflection
57 Posts
and this has just seemed like such a long gap since I don't watch ASTL. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12027 Posts
On February 15 2021 01:22 inflection wrote: Good news then if it's coming in the Spring. Missing tournaments casted by Tasteless and Artosis and this has just seemed like such a long gap since I don't watch ASTL.Why not watch it? | ||
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inflection
57 Posts
Without Tasteless or Artosis involved with the casting, the current phase of my relationship with BW leaves me uninterested unless it's a particularly compelling match for my tastes in players. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7475 Posts
On February 14 2021 23:04 Muirhead wrote: I would be so happy if we got youtube VODs of the ASTL matches, even without English commentary Check the Small Vod thread 2.0 A caster has been uploading english ones to youtube - Saiyiansc or saiyianbw or something like that. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On February 14 2021 09:04 MineraIs wrote: Try reducing the quality setting. It worked for me.Looks like 910 has started doing map test tournament for the new maps to be tried out. Info can be found here http://bj.afreecatv.com/kuyol/post/68299198 It is unfortunate that ASTL2 isn't being streamed on youtube. Afreeca buffers randomly for me and i have to refresh the page. | ||
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
On February 15 2021 07:00 inflection wrote: Without Tasteless or Artosis involved with the casting, the current phase of my relationship with BW leaves me uninterested unless it's a particularly compelling match for my tastes in players. May I suggest the BBTour or BSL? Great comfy knowledgeable english casting there =) Would love for ASTL to be uploaded to youtube so i can watch on my tv.. | ||
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
On February 17 2021 18:22 MineraIs wrote: Would love for ASTL to be uploaded to youtube so i can watch on my tv.. ... On February 16 2021 01:02 AttackZerg wrote: Check the Small Vod thread 2.0 A caster has been uploading english ones to youtube - Saiyiansc or saiyianbw or something like that. ??? | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12027 Posts
On February 17 2021 12:48 J. Corsair wrote: Afreeca player is unwatchable for me ATM. SaiyanSC does upload and Qikz, but without timestamps / matchup I can't be bothered to sift through a 3hr video. They should select one of 2 of the 'best ' games from each round and upload them IMO. I appreciate what they do and am subbed, just my 2c I need to get back into the habit of putting the timestamps, that was me being lazy ^^ | ||
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ExpatRights
53 Posts
On February 18 2021 02:40 Qikz wrote: I need to get back into the habit of putting the timestamps, that was me being lazy ^^ do you commentate them? | ||
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