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[ASL7] Ro8 Day 4 - Rain vs Horang2 - Page 3

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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 07:00:20
February 27 2019 06:59 GMT
#41
the way he made horang2 made a critical positional mistake with his army was 10/10.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 07:01:55
February 27 2019 07:00 GMT
#42
Rain's attacks made no sense to me, but somehow that constant pressure worked out, nice.

It seems very effective against Horang2, when he's getting pushed, Horang2 makes no counter play himself, and just focuses on defending. In PvP with Reavers or Templar, it's attackers advantage, so I suppose Rain played to that.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
February 27 2019 07:01 GMT
#43
I mean for the sake of the tourney I want Rain to win, but horang2 is better than this. He's getting embarrassed.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 07:05:27
February 27 2019 07:01 GMT
#44
On February 27 2019 16:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Rain's attacks made no sense to me, but somehow that constant pressure worked out, nice.


he was trying to get the main army of horang2 into a bad position so he could attack top left or mineral only with guerrilla zealot attacks, when horang2 overcomited his army to defend 1 place, rain took advantage of the play he was looking for all game long.

Late game pvp is all about army positioning and engage angles.. rain was forcing bad placement with every "attack" he made.

horang2 coulda've turtled that game a little bit better if he didnt rush for the kill with the 2-1 upgrades timming.
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Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
February 27 2019 07:01 GMT
#45
Going to bed after seeing Rain up 2-0. Seems like it will be a blow out to me. .
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
February 27 2019 07:04 GMT
#46
On February 27 2019 16:01 XenOsky wrote:
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On February 27 2019 16:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Rain's attacks made no sense to me, but somehow that constant pressure worked out, nice.


he was trying to get the main army of horang2 into a bad position so he could attack top left or mineral only with guerrilla zealot attacks, when horang2 overcomited his army to defend 1 place, rain took advantage of the play he was looking for all game long.


But he was doing that while it was still 2 base vs 2 base, especially trying to move up that small ramp earlier on. Once it was 4 base vs 4 base, the play made a lot more sense.

I wonder what the right play there was. I think just doing some HT drops during the action was the way to go, but idk. At four base and not moving out seemed like a death sentence. Maybe he thought the 2 forge vs 1 forge would let him win the late game.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
February 27 2019 07:05 GMT
#47
On February 27 2019 16:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Rain's attacks made no sense to me, but somehow that constant pressure worked out, nice.

It seems very effective against Horang2, when he's getting pushed, Horang2 makes no counter play himself, and just focuses on defending. In PvP with Reavers or Templar, it's attackers advantage, so I suppose Rain played to that.


Rain is like Sun Tzu, just so much better than everyone else tactically and strategically. His army movements are just so beautiful and he's always probing, attacking multiple locations, looking to catch armies out of position. I can say he is now my favorite player.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
February 27 2019 07:06 GMT
#48
On February 27 2019 16:04 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2019 16:01 XenOsky wrote:
On February 27 2019 16:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Rain's attacks made no sense to me, but somehow that constant pressure worked out, nice.


he was trying to get the main army of horang2 into a bad position so he could attack top left or mineral only with guerrilla zealot attacks, when horang2 overcomited his army to defend 1 place, rain took advantage of the play he was looking for all game long.


But he was doing that while it was still 2 base vs 2 base, especially trying to move up that small ramp earlier on. Once it was 4 base vs 4 base, the play made a lot more sense.

I wonder what the right play there was. I think just doing some HT drops during the action was the way to go, but idk. At four base and not moving out seemed like a death sentence. Maybe he thought the 2 forge vs 1 forge would let him win the late game.


he wasn't attacking up a ramp, he was forcing storms + getting few storms to probe lines and ht/goon to soften it up. meanwhile he was trying to attack the mineral only with small forces to tax horang2's multitask.
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KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
February 27 2019 07:12 GMT
#49
Wow, joke micro from horang2, gg
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1979 Posts
February 27 2019 07:13 GMT
#50
alright that was one of the most disappointing series in BW history tbh.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
February 27 2019 07:13 GMT
#51
that man got destroyed, FeelsBadMan.
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KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
February 27 2019 07:13 GMT
#52
That was the most dominating performance this side of Flash
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
February 27 2019 07:14 GMT
#53
My favorite thing about Rain is that he literally never maxes out for more than 5 seconds. As soon as he maxes out he looks for a battle because he's confident in his macro and that he's just going to keep re-maxing and re-maxing faster than his opponent and eventually wear him down.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3153 Posts
February 27 2019 07:14 GMT
#54
Complete and utter destruction. Horang2 has to feel like shit after that series. Rain is just crazy I don't see Last taking a series of him at all. The only image I see in the finals is Effort and Rain at the moment.
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
February 27 2019 07:17 GMT
#55
On February 27 2019 16:14 NoS-Craig wrote:
Complete and utter destruction. Horang2 has to feel like shit after that series. Rain is just crazy I don't see Last taking a series of him at all. The only image I see in the finals is Effort and Rain at the moment.


last is very dangerous, he prepares well for boX series and is not affraid to mindgame / cheese his opponent... oh did i mention he is VERY VERY VERY solid with standard play?

Rain vs Last can be seriously epic.
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KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
February 27 2019 07:17 GMT
#56
Lmao at how humble Rain is
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
February 27 2019 07:20 GMT
#57
At least Horang2's suffering wasn't drawn out.
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
February 27 2019 07:20 GMT
#58
Still, even tho tonight was kinda lol, it was fun lol, and the rest of the tournament could not be more perfect. There's no way we have anything less than a sick finals. Mini/Last would be sick!
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 07:24:12
February 27 2019 07:21 GMT
#59
My favorite play today was in game 2, that call to go in with 4 goons + zealot into 4 goons + zealot when DT were on the way.

Don't think many players made that choice, but with his micro it was brilliant. This way he never had to give up map control, and he could apply to pressure until observers came... Forcing the DT to defend versus making a dash towards Rain base.He even knew it was DT earlier, but still built the robo as late as humanely possible. Horang2 was ahead economically, but was still forced to build so many cannons just to stay alive, beautiful. Against any other player, Horang2's opening would have been a solid build order advantage.
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Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
February 27 2019 07:28 GMT
#60
Rain clearly a step above Horang2 there. Obviously game 1 was odd but some good lessons for any Toss player in those games.
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