I feel like Rain is quite bad at decision making. And while Horang2 didn't capitalize on this, Last is a completely different beast. I think it will be 3-1 for Last.

NoS-Craig

Australia3116 Posts

February 27 2019 07:38 GMT

#62

I'll be amazed if Last manages to pull off an upset against Rain. Even then I doubt he could go up against Effort. One very tough road ahead for Last. I'd agree with you if his wrist were in better shape though.

Jackal03

Brazil7469 Posts

February 27 2019 10:36 GMT

#63

that was a very underwhelming series. Hope we see a good one in last v rain

outscar

2832 Posts

February 27 2019 11:08 GMT

#64

Rain is really solid, I feel like he's improving more and more as time passes. If he can beat Last (notice his wrists aren't that good) I think he may able to take out FlaSh in future. But EffOrt is going to be the final boss.

Dante08

Singapore4128 Posts

February 27 2019 12:08 GMT

#65

Guys Rain lost to Sharp last KSL so I wouldn't count Last out too early.

TiQ.SinGi

Norway385 Posts

February 27 2019 16:15 GMT

#66

GG's. Some interesting moments but a bit underwhelming series T_T
PvP'wise I would rather have Horang2 and Mini switch places and see Mini vs Rain instead. Though I doubt anyone right now can top Rains pvp. Just looking at the games, even when he made some weird decisions like attacking up that ramp over and over it didn't matter. He powered through Horang2 and I even think he could have done it while at the same time sipping his straw-drink xD Hoping for an effort vs Rain finals!

LG)Sabbath

Argentina3022 Posts

February 27 2019 16:18 GMT

#67

On February 28 2019 01:15 TiQ.SinGi wrote:
GG's. Some interesting moments but a bit underwhelming series T_T
PvP'wise I would rather have Horang2 and Mini switch places and see Mini vs Rain instead. Though I doubt anyone right now can top Rains pvp. Just looking at the games, even when he made some weird decisions like attacking up that ramp over and over it didn't matter. He powered through Horang2 and I even think he could have done it while at the same time sipping his straw-drink xD Hoping for an effort vs Rain finals!

Well horang2 made some poor decisions himself, game 3 going 2 gate robo and nexus and then having only like 5 units he sends them to Rain's ramp and loses them all wtf?

Alpha-NP-

United States1242 Posts

February 27 2019 17:15 GMT

#68

Horang and Rains first game was great. I highly recommend it.

Piste

6177 Posts

February 27 2019 17:51 GMT

#69

I have never seen anyone luckier than Rain. He has been getting easy opponents/maps in so many tournaments now.

KamMoye

United States721 Posts

February 27 2019 17:52 GMT

#70

Lasts wrists are fine enough if he handled a grueling 5-match TvT.

Ideas

United States8104 Posts

February 27 2019 20:27 GMT

#71

Any idea why they seem to be rushing through the rest of the tournament? Felt like last ASL was mode spread out and they'd wait a week between each phase, but the Ro8 was all held within a week of each other and the semis both happen next week. Or is my memory fucking with me and this is how fast the tournament always goes?

Nematocyst

United States164 Posts

February 27 2019 20:34 GMT

#72

This Ro8 was unusual. I vaguely remember Tastosis saying something about no GSL was the reason. But ASL also tends to speed up near the end just due to fewer number of games per round. It has usually been 2 games a week (Sun + Tue), so with 6 Ro24 groups and 4 Ro16 groups, that's several weeks with more games than Ro8..finals.

nahyunjung

40 Posts

February 28 2019 03:25 GMT

#73

Let's not forget Horang2 was a proleague player, PvP specialist. He was way underrated coming into this series. With some more confidence in himself he probably could have taken it given that he seemed to get himself into good positions then collapse due to army movement and control. Rain is just showing why he's one of the greatest, didn't bring anything close to his best today and won.

Sabu113

United States11048 Posts

February 28 2019 03:55 GMT

#74

Well that's a wreck.

Wish we could have spread the ro8 out a little more. So I could be a bit slower in consuming all the series.

Rain looking good for the finals. Sharp would have been the scarier opponent.

Mini Effort could be surprisingly good. Mini only gets PvZ. Still wish it was Snow instead. Hope effort gets through so we get a mixed race final.

Alpha-NP-

United States1242 Posts

February 28 2019 05:16 GMT

#75

ASL always delivers. We get to see some new players matched up that we haven’t seen in previous ASL’s. Mini versus Effort should be close. And I don’t mind who wins of those 2 or Last and Rain. Rain vs Effort final would be sick. But it also would be sick if Effort playes Last who used standard games instead of valkyries in the last ASL.

Bulgaria4116 Posts

February 28 2019 10:54 GMT

#76

On February 28 2019 02:52 KamMoye wrote:
Lasts wrists are fine enough if he handled a grueling 5-match TvT.

not exactly, the problem is not that he cannot go through 5 games at his best, the problem is that he cannot prepare for the games as hard as he would normally, to have his wrists healthy for a match he skips a lot of practice hours or something in that regard

TornadoSteve

1041 Posts

February 28 2019 12:09 GMT

#77

Agreed that this ASL delivers, rooting for anyone except Last
The guy is really good and everything, but i just simply cannot stand him
Hes got the personnality of a micro-wave, so ill suppose i hope for a Rain vs effOrt finals
although our ''finals'' might as well be mini vs effort, IF Mini is in a good mental state : )

Dazed.

Canada3301 Posts

February 28 2019 15:04 GMT

#78

On February 28 2019 12:25 nahyunjung wrote:
Let's not forget Horang2 was a proleague player, PvP specialist. He was way underrated coming into this series. With some more confidence in himself he probably could have taken it given that he seemed to get himself into good positions then collapse due to army movement and control. Rain is just showing why he's one of the greatest, didn't bring anything close to his best today and won.

Yeah I agree with this. Its impressive that Horang2 was able to get an advantage in every game, also impressive how seamlessly rain picked that apart. Horang2s actually made a lot of progress given how briefly hes been back in the scene.

Uldridge

Belgium4786 Posts

February 28 2019 17:37 GMT

#79

Effort is going to get into mini's head. 3-0, max 3-1 in favor of Effort here. Effort had always been a ZvP beast.
Rain has poor decision making, but Last seems to be wearing a weight on his shoulders. This is the matchup I can see going all the way. BUT it could also be a complete blowout. It all depends on Last's mental fortitude.
Ulimately I hope for an epic 5 game PvZ series in the finals where 2 games have ultras vs. archons and reavers and maybe 1 game with mutas/guardians/devourers vs. carriers/corsairs and 2 games have early game risky strats that (don't) pay off but have intense micro battles.

TornadoSteve

1041 Posts

March 01 2019 10:49 GMT

#80

Clearly, the strengths of Rain are his macro and his micro, but I dont think his decisions making are that poor, like many people said. Agreed that hes got some funky build and any zerg not scouting the whole map with his first lings deserve to lose against him from now on, but it seems that his agro style to macro/expend while pressure give problems to the whole scene (except flash)