EPTOn March 19 2017 22:46 BLinD-RawR wrote:
by hate I don't actually mean hate, I should have said hates playing against him.
by hate I don't actually mean hate, I should have said hates playing against him.
i knew what you meant
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
i knew what you meant | ||
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
That game would have been over much sooner if Flash tried to go SK terran after his failed 5 rax attack. | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On March 19 2017 22:46 LaStScan wrote: True. if it's FS and late mech switch, zerg won't win. 5 gas T mech vs 5 gas zerg is not the same as 5 gas + 2 mineral expo mech vs 5 gas + 2 mineral expo zerg I've been repeating about this on my live stream channel, but they won't know. xD I hope they can realize this later in the future. Would you agree that Last's hybrid lategame style is more stable on CB than Flash's hard mech switch? | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On March 19 2017 22:46 duke91 wrote: These rules don't apply anymore. Zerg cannot get over 4 bases in a long time, and Terran needs to defend 3-4 positions at once. If he doesn't have enough defense everywhere, Zerg can snowball even with 4 bases because zerg units are way more efficient at low unit counts against mech. Soulkey played extremely well, and engaged most of the time much more efficient than most zergs would do. Flash also seemed to have a lot of 'naked tank' positions all over the map, i.e. not much vulture or antiair support, especially in the last 10 minutes. So then the tanks get crackling/ultra dropped, or crack-rushed via a nice dark swarm and the trade is overwhelmingly pro-Zerg $$$-wise. And SK didn't just win the engagements, he forced them, repeatedly, all over the place, knowing that was draining Flash. And that Flash couldn't defend well everywhere. Really good strategy and play by Soulkey. | ||
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jamesuh
United States82 Posts
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5233 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On March 19 2017 22:46 duke91 wrote: These rules don't apply anymore. Zerg cannot get over 4 bases in a long time, and Terran needs to defend 3-4 positions at once. If he doesn't have enough defense everywhere, Zerg can snowball even with 4 bases because zerg units are way more efficient at low unit counts against mech. Soulkey played extremely well, and engaged most of the time much more efficient than most zergs would do. No, Flash was suiciding units (tank only attacks) etc which looked like sandbagging to give the people a better game. Tanks + Goliaths + Vultures would have won him the game. He also could have pressured more but he left SK alone for a while to build more bases which also led me to believe he doesn't want it to end early. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
On March 19 2017 22:44 tanngard wrote: Protoss has by far the least starleague champions. Why the hate? I don't like protoss lol. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
Who does? The no-mouth thing is freaky.  | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On March 19 2017 22:50 gngfn wrote: Would you agree that Last's hybrid lategame style is more stable on CB than Flash's hard mech switch? What is his hybrid late game style? | ||
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ortseam
996 Posts
Btw I think left vs right split on CB makes it much easier for Zerg to stretch Terran out compared to top vs bottom split | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On March 19 2017 22:56 Lucumo wrote: No, Flash was suiciding units (tank only attacks) etc which looked like sandbagging to give the people a better game. Tanks + Goliaths + Vultures would have won him the game. He also could have pressured more but he left SK alone for a while to build more bases which also led me to believe he doesn't want it to end early. At no time Flash could have moved out when he had all bases to defend. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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rand0MPrecisi0n
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
But what a game out of soulkey, his mechanics and his composure were fucking perfect from minute 1 until the end. Keeping up with dark swarm casts on the bottom right corner expo, the precision of their usage during the final gigantic siege of the high ground outside his natural, as well as the constant filling of overlords is something you just don't see out of zergs. You even had two occasions on the 9 o'clock where Soulkey flat out outsmarted Flash: the drone transition with the ling runby to keep them out of Flash's vision range and the Overlord flyby at a later defense of the 9 o'clock where Flash just assumed it was going to be a standard flyby with the purpose of impairing his vision and instead ended up being a drop exactly as he started to leapfrog. The key to lategame ZvT I have been believing for years lies in quick switches between mutas and scourges to flood Terran's supply count with units that don't do enough for them. This game I felt pretty validated outside of the final Muta wave doing 5 dmg per shot to Flash's 3/3 goliaths... | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
Basically instead of going full mech switch, do a mech switch but keep your 5 rax and still mass some bio. Great against zerglings. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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