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[TLC] TeamLiquid Legacy Cup #11

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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 12:28:22
September 30 2015 13:41 GMT
#1
TeamLiquid Legacy Cup #11


Register here


Tournament start: Saturday, Oct 03 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Cast starts: Saturday, Oct 03 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

[image loading]TeamLiquid Legacy Cup series on Liquipedia


Streams

Casters: eOnzErG & dRaW

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Prize Pool

  • 1st: $50
  • 2nd: $35
  • 3rd: $15
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Single elimination:
  • Bo1 up to the Ro8
  • Bo3 for quarterfinals and semifinals
  • Bo5 for finals
Maps

  • (Wiki)Neo Jade
  • (Wiki)New Bloody Ridge
  • (Wiki)Neo Moon Glaive
  • (Wiki)Polaris Rhapsody
  • (Wiki)New Sniper Ridge

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      Round 1 - Ro128 (Bo1) - Neo Jade
      Round 2 - Ro64 (Bo1) - New Bloody Ridge
      Round 3 - Ro32 (Bo1) - Neo Moon Glaive
      Round 4 - Ro16 (Bo1) - Polaris Rhapsody
      Round 5 - Ro8 (Bo3) - New Sniper Ridge (Loser picks next map)
      Round 6 - Ro4 (Bo3) - Neo Jade (Loser picks next map)
      Round 7 - 3rd Place Match (Bo3) - Neo Moon Glaive (Loser picks next map)
      Round 8 - Finals (Bo5) - New Bloody Ridge (Loser picks next map)
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Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
AmatistA
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany113 Posts
September 30 2015 14:15 GMT
#2
is this the last tour? I hope NO
gG!!!!
This little bastard is Sieges addicted! cause I love the sound of the siege tank mode so you don't ? hear and feel my favorite sound ... didn't you hear? you realize that you have no units anymore!!!!
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
September 30 2015 14:31 GMT
#3
Come on guys, add Latin Quarter and Eddy!
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The Latin Quarter
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Eddy
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Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
September 30 2015 14:42 GMT
#4
On September 30 2015 23:15 AmatistA wrote:
is this the last tour? I hope NO
gG!!!!

No. There should be 20 of them before TLS Championship.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
September 30 2015 14:54 GMT
#5
404 write up not found
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
September 30 2015 15:28 GMT
#6
On September 30 2015 23:54 GeckoXp wrote:
404 write up not found

Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 30 2015 17:48 GMT
#7
If only I could remember to check in this week...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6949 Posts
October 01 2015 07:24 GMT
#8
On September 30 2015 23:31 CardinalAllin wrote:
Come on guys, add Latin Quarter and Eddy!
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The Latin Quarter
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Eddy
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eddy is not a map i will like to repeat
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
October 01 2015 11:33 GMT
#9
eonzerg you say eddy is a map you would not like to repeat. I dont know what you mean by 'repeat'. But I will assume you mean it is a map you would not like to play.
Thats fine, but do you like Neo Jade more? Do you like Neo Moon Glaive more? If so can you explain why please.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 01 2015 12:54 GMT
#10
On September 30 2015 23:31 CardinalAllin wrote:
Come on guys, add Latin Quarter and Eddy!
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The Latin Quarter
[image loading]

Eddy
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+1
These maps are really cool to play, and it would changes of always the same maps.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6949 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 17:01:54
October 01 2015 13:51 GMT
#11
On October 01 2015 20:33 CardinalAllin wrote:
eonzerg you say eddy is a map you would not like to repeat. I dont know what you mean by 'repeat'. But I will assume you mean it is a map you would not like to play.
Thats fine, but do you like Neo Jade more? Do you like Neo Moon Glaive more? If so can you explain why please.

It means played it, i didnt like it at all
Jade is a map that fits my style of play and give u many options,it also helps afreeca progamers are playing on it and giving fresh info,about moon cant really tell much,im always for new maps and im not someone that bitch every map i can,im telling u what i think after play eddy.
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
October 01 2015 22:04 GMT
#12
Thanks for the clarification. It is confusing to me that a person can find neo jade fits their style of play and gives many options while at the same time Eddy doesnt. Because I think Eddy plays similarly to jade and I think Eddy gives more options lol.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-02 00:16:45
October 02 2015 00:11 GMT
#13
On October 02 2015 07:04 CardinalAllin wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. It is confusing to me that a person can find neo jade fits their style of play and gives many options while at the same time Eddy doesnt. Because I think Eddy plays similarly to jade and I think Eddy gives more options lol.


The island expansion changes much. That, and the mineral only, make it so that Protoss and Terran don't have to take a new set of main and natural bases as early, but instead become able to secure four bases and a mineral only within 25% of the maps surface.

PvZ on Neo Jade basically comes down to whether or not Protoss can take and hold a new spawning locations bases. If he can, he wins. If he can't, he loses. Eddy has some of that. If the game goes on long enough, Protoss will have to take a new main, but it's much more fluid, less binary, and Protoss can play from only his natural expansions for much longer.

I have played a bit of PvZ on Eddy against Naugrim, who is a decent player. The games were interesting. I made use of the island expansion in many of them.
I support introducing more complex maps that add more options, and unique problems for players to solve. Maps are a large part of StarCraft. Figuring out styles against the various races on different maps is fun.
Eddy is one such complex map. There's a lot to it. Many ways to attempt to solve the problem. A lot of diversity in viable styles- I enjoy minimalistic maps like Jade, too, but Eddy simply has more than Jade has.

We don't need to play on one kind of map only. The races are well rounded enough to allow for some map diversity without sacrificing balance. There are limits, but Eddy is well within those limits while still being significantly different.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 02 2015 02:59 GMT
#14
I found eddy very restricting. Only played PvTs on it though...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland480 Posts
October 03 2015 13:32 GMT
#15
GoGoGo!
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5499 Posts
October 03 2015 14:43 GMT
#16
Half way through 10 to go!

I don't participate cuz I suck, but I do enjoy tunning in every few weeks into the cast.

Here's me hoping TL, continues to run weekly or maybe bi-weekly tournaments after the championship.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Djem5
Profile Joined January 2013
Russian Federation11 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 18:09:25
October 03 2015 18:08 GMT
#17
1
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
October 03 2015 19:08 GMT
#18
Cast starting an hour later today!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
October 03 2015 19:10 GMT
#19
Is that the reason why djem5 typed 1?
Luv ya BroodWar!
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 19:42:43
October 03 2015 19:42 GMT
#20
I'm sorry that I didn't alert an admin. I had to rush away, and thought that I had only signed up - not checked in. I sincerely apologize and will try to not do this again (if a similar situation occurs).

Thank you for organizing these events. You deserve better behaviour than mine.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
October 03 2015 20:04 GMT
#21
On October 02 2015 11:59 dRaW wrote:
I found eddy very restricting. Only played PvTs on it though...


I haven't played any PvT on it yet
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
October 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#22
stream will be online after the next write up.

2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
October 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#23
Sayle had a big headache earlier, that's why we postponed for an hour. Although it looks like he fell asleep or something now.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1533 Posts
October 03 2015 20:26 GMT
#24
On October 02 2015 07:04 CardinalAllin wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. It is confusing to me that a person can find neo jade fits their style of play and gives many options while at the same time Eddy doesnt. Because I think Eddy plays similarly to jade and I think Eddy gives more options lol.


As the guy who made Eddy, I gotta say: it's intended to be no way like Jade.
It has the same tileset, which merely is a pragmatic and aesthetic decision based on the layout I had in mind, but otherwise utterly meaningless
It is a "reverse" map (i.e. low main, high nat), nut by that standard Aztec and Outlier are just like Jade too!
It has reduced geysers at the close thirds, but for totally different reasons.

For maps that do not heavily depend on special mechanics, half of what they are is their expansion layout, and in that regard Eddy is a lot more in the vein of Andromeda or Empire of the Sun.
Jade is actually a low-resource map, whereas the others are resource-heavy macro maps.

Of my own maps (or any new map options in general), Eddy would actually not among my top choices to promote. Not because I'd consider it bad, but because I consider it mostly boring and hasn't really anything new to offer that other maps could not do as well (i.e. it's all about eye-candy).
Now variety, even in the pool of fairly standard maps, is a good thing, but there's also just so many new maps one can expect players to be bothered with at a time. And at the current point in time, I honestly think that there are some actual gaping gaps in the current map pool that have been there for a long time and should be filled first. The three-player map pool, for example, is in many ways limited...

And now I gotta go :\ ...
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 20:42:32
October 03 2015 20:38 GMT
#25
On October 04 2015 05:24 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Sayle had a big headache earlier, that's why we postponed for an hour. Although it looks like he fell asleep or something now.

Or hit them night clubs, with chicks and stuff.

Joke aside i hope Sayle is alright for tomorrow.
Luv ya BroodWar!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 03 2015 20:44 GMT
#26
I can cast reps if I get them... Maybe if they want to save some for sayle that's fine but I can at least cast early round bracket stuff.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Mutisk
Profile Joined April 2013
Sweden41 Posts
October 03 2015 21:07 GMT
#27
On October 04 2015 05:38 _Animus_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 05:24 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Sayle had a big headache earlier, that's why we postponed for an hour. Although it looks like he fell asleep or something now.

Or hit them night clubs, with chicks and stuff.


This is funny because sayle is about 1/7th indian
Mutisk
Profile Joined April 2013
Sweden41 Posts
October 03 2015 21:14 GMT
#28
On October 04 2015 05:44 dRaW wrote:
I can cast reps if I get them... Maybe if they want to save some for sayle that's fine but I can at least cast early round bracket stuff.


No love for that long PvZ from last week that was skipped for it's length?
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
October 03 2015 21:18 GMT
#29
On October 04 2015 05:24 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Sayle had a big headache earlier, that's why we postponed for an hour. Although it looks like he fell asleep or something now.

the answer is yes, we can forgive Sayle for not being here today. I hope he feels better and that headache goes away. Im sure 1 uncasted cup for now won't kill us and besides Reps will come out and we should step up and get it going as well as a community.
Flash should fear Sacsri
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria491 Posts
October 04 2015 01:47 GMT
#30
Man up nerds. On my way back to home some pussy threw an egg from a car towards me while i was listening to music. Don't reach his manliness level please, because he didn't even dare to show himself after my usain bolt sprint.
music is the best thing in the world
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6949 Posts
October 04 2015 02:10 GMT
#31
hmm i will be up to cast this Oo cam?
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
October 04 2015 02:12 GMT
#32
why you up this late, safe your power for getting your players to play tomorrow Jose (;
Broodwar for life!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 04 2015 05:57 GMT
#33
On October 04 2015 11:10 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
hmm i will be up to cast this Oo cam?


Yeah next time we should cast.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
October 04 2015 08:46 GMT
#34
Sooo...
Are the games going to be casted? And if yes, who will be casting?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50930 Posts
October 04 2015 09:57 GMT
#35
On October 04 2015 06:07 Mutisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 05:38 _Animus_ wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:24 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Sayle had a big headache earlier, that's why we postponed for an hour. Although it looks like he fell asleep or something now.

Or hit them night clubs, with chicks and stuff.


This is funny because sayle is about 1/7th indian


is this some joke about sayle not being canadian, because he totally is?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 04 2015 15:31 GMT
#36
On October 04 2015 17:46 RoomOfMush wrote:
Sooo...
Are the games going to be casted? And if yes, who will be casting?


If Sayle can't cast or they don't have a back up, Eon and I can cast after NW in a few hrs. (2~)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
October 04 2015 16:43 GMT
#37
On October 05 2015 00:31 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 17:46 RoomOfMush wrote:
Sooo...
Are the games going to be casted? And if yes, who will be casting?


If Sayle can't cast or they don't have a back up, Eon and I can cast after NW in a few hrs. (2~)

Just take over I will be watching from work when possible
Flash should fear Sacsri
zs-Adun
Profile Joined January 2015
United States16 Posts
October 04 2015 16:44 GMT
#38
sry I didn't make it this week, had my nephews birthday party 2 go to, hopefully ill be around next Saturday. also who won unless finals haven't been played yet. cause the bracket doesn't show anyone for finals slot, just semi's
rawr
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6949 Posts
October 04 2015 18:20 GMT
#39
Draw and I will be casting this 21:00
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 04 2015 19:01 GMT
#40
http://www.twitch.tv/sasdraw

Live!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
CoughingHydra
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 20:37:23
October 04 2015 20:29 GMT
#41
nvm
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
October 04 2015 21:41 GMT
#42
keep these two as casters, good job.

even though i still dont get what "a special price in your hair" was supposed to mean.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 04 2015 21:54 GMT
#43
On October 05 2015 06:41 GeckoXp wrote:
keep these two as casters, good job.

even though i still dont get what "a special price in your hair" was supposed to mean.


It's a famous Spanish metaphor.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
October 05 2015 00:14 GMT
#44
i liked the cast a lot actually, good job!
Broodwar for life!
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
October 05 2015 07:03 GMT
#45
Nice cast guys, i enjoyed the games too
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6949 Posts
October 05 2015 11:29 GMT
#46
Thanks guys, cuz a player of the tour was in the cast i tryed to do it in a way we could understand his mindset and actions in the game. <3 ,cu soon :d
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 05 2015 13:04 GMT
#47
http://www.twitch.tv/sasdraw/v/19145383 VOD
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
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