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hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
May 30 2012 11:06 GMT
#181
whenever flash loses, people are so quick to conclude flash didn't play well.

bogus played very, very well. he remained calm and proceeded to optimize his early advantage gained from the marine/vulture poke by knowing exactly how he needed to respond once flash greedily took the fast 9 o clock expo despite the fact he was at a slight disadvantage from the early marine/vulture battle.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 30 2012 11:06 GMT
#182
im so glad that he lost actually

we will have more games this way

you guys whine definitely too fucking much..

chillax..

go go go next match !
T H C makes ppl happy
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
May 30 2012 11:06 GMT
#183
On May 30 2012 20:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why does the OP say Flash won?


I automatically thought who ever won that game must be flash . It's hard to accept this
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
May 30 2012 11:06 GMT
#184
time for some grape-age
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
May 30 2012 11:07 GMT
#185
Oh shit rematches for Group A
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 30 2012 11:07 GMT
#186
Flash lost 14+ SCVs to the initial vulture pressure. No recovery from that.
BW fighting!
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 30 2012 11:07 GMT
#187
On May 30 2012 20:07 bokchoi wrote:
Oh shit rematches for Group A


12-hour tiebreakers let's go!!
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 30 2012 11:07 GMT
#188
On May 30 2012 20:06 hmmm... wrote:
whenever flash loses, people are so quick to conclude flash didn't play well.

bogus played very, very well. he remained calm and proceeded to optimize his early advantage gained from the marine/vulture poke by knowing exactly how he needed to respond once flash greedily took the fast 9 o clock expo despite the fact he was at a slight disadvantage from the early marine/vulture battle.


No one is taking anything away from Bogus, but Flash DID play terrible concidering we are talking about FLASH here...
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
May 30 2012 11:07 GMT
#189
On May 30 2012 20:03 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 20:02 538 wrote:
My merged LR posts about game one, maybe someone will find it handy:
+ Show Spoiler [Flash vs Bogus] +

Sure. Flash places a proxy, but not early rax in the middle, Bogus opens rax first as well, so he will be fine.
(Flash spawned in the bottom left, Bogus in top left on Sniper Ridge)

Marines meet as planned, Flash is already floating the rax towards Bogus' base, and starts a CC and a factory. Bogus is setting up for a fast CC himself, and starts it when Flash's is at 500 hp.
Bogus' scout is denied, but he sees the CC timing, Flash walks a scout in Bogus's base, to be killed by the first vulture.

Bogus tries to use the new small ramp on this version of the map, pushing with 3 vults and marines, but Flash expects it, and defends. Bogus reinforces though, so Flash has to pull SCVs. Flash is losing SCVs due to the constant vultures streaming in, tries repair microing his vultures, but he's outnumbered.

Vultures make it into Flash's base, and the popping goliaths are slow at killing them. Finally they do clear them up, but Flash must be behind after losing 6+ SCVs during the vulture pressure. Bogus is switching to goliath production, going up to 3 facts.

Bogus loses his floating rax to goliaths, but starts 2 more factories just before it burns down. Bogus has a dropship ready, Flash is taking a fast third. Vulture drop incoming.

Flash pulls scvs with starsense to save them from the vulture drop, vultures mine up the base, but only damage one tank, and they are cleared up. Bogus tries droppign the nat with golis, but they are repelled. 2 dropship harass, one at nat, one at main, they join forces in the main, golis and vults! Flash defends well, but is busy multitasking while Bogus starts moving his army down the map, threatening the third!

Bogus' tanks siege the third, which is floating now. Flash's wraith denies the harass, tries to stop the siege on the third, but repairing scv and arriving wraith send it away.
Bogus is setting up a siege position on the high ground at 9 - Flash's old third, and even has range on the edge of Flash's min line at the nat.
Not looking good for Flash, they are on equal bases, but Bogus has him semi-contained, while still harassing.

The game slows down now, Flash is floating his third CC to the other third at 6, but doesnt land yet. Wraiths deny Bogus' try at harassing again, flash is taking his third, while Bogus is trying to set up a contain to deny that. CC lands, but no SCVs. Bogus has taken Flash's original third, and made a valk to defend from wraits, even though Flash only has 2

Moderate engagement outside of Flash's third, both sides lose a lot, but Bogus is happier trading armies at this point. Flash only takes gas from his third, Bogus is starting his fourth base at 12. Not looking good for Flash.

Bogus scouting the map for hidden expos, finding nothing. Flash loses a drophsip to a turret.

Vultures deny Flash any mining at his third, Bogus now has him completely contained to two bases, while setting up his fourth. Flash is trying to move out with two dropships, but Bogus is pushing the front with overwhelming numbers!

Flash will have to tap out looks like, they both bring scvs

GG from Flash!

impressive play by Bogus, out-multitasked God, and looks very smug leaving the booth.


This is awesome !

agreed, tyty!
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 30 2012 11:07 GMT
#190
On May 30 2012 20:06 structuralinertia wrote:
time for some grape-age

children might be watching

please no gRAPE today

go go Fantasy ! make it another tiebreak !!! :D
T H C makes ppl happy
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 11:08:34
May 30 2012 11:08 GMT
#191
On May 30 2012 20:07 538 wrote:
Flash lost 14+ SCVs to the initial vulture pressure. No recovery from that.

wat ?

not that many..

lol
T H C makes ppl happy
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
May 30 2012 11:08 GMT
#192
So how does tie breaker works ? how many points does one have to get to win the tie breaker .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 30 2012 11:08 GMT
#193
On May 30 2012 20:08 Sawamura wrote:
So how does tie breaker works ? how many points does one have to get to win the tie breaker .

2 consecutive wins
T H C makes ppl happy
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 30 2012 11:08 GMT
#194
On May 30 2012 20:02 538 wrote:
My merged LR posts about game one, maybe someone will find it handy:
+ Show Spoiler [Flash vs Bogus] +

Sure. Flash places a proxy, but not early rax in the middle, Bogus opens rax first as well, so he will be fine.
(Flash spawned in the bottom left, Bogus in top left on Sniper Ridge)

Marines meet as planned, Flash is already floating the rax towards Bogus' base, and starts a CC and a factory. Bogus is setting up for a fast CC himself, and starts it when Flash's is at 500 hp.
Bogus' scout is denied, but he sees the CC timing, Flash walks a scout in Bogus's base, to be killed by the first vulture.

Bogus tries to use the new small ramp on this version of the map, pushing with 3 vults and marines, but Flash expects it, and defends. Bogus reinforces though, so Flash has to pull SCVs. Flash is losing SCVs due to the constant vultures streaming in, tries repair microing his vultures, but he's outnumbered.

Vultures make it into Flash's base, and the popping goliaths are slow at killing them. Finally they do clear them up, but Flash must be behind after losing 6+ SCVs during the vulture pressure. Bogus is switching to goliath production, going up to 3 facts.

Bogus loses his floating rax to goliaths, but starts 2 more factories just before it burns down. Bogus has a dropship ready, Flash is taking a fast third. Vulture drop incoming.

Flash pulls scvs with starsense to save them from the vulture drop, vultures mine up the base, but only damage one tank, and they are cleared up. Bogus tries droppign the nat with golis, but they are repelled. 2 dropship harass, one at nat, one at main, they join forces in the main, golis and vults! Flash defends well, but is busy multitasking while Bogus starts moving his army down the map, threatening the third!

Bogus' tanks siege the third, which is floating now. Flash's wraith denies the harass, tries to stop the siege on the third, but repairing scv and arriving wraith send it away.
Bogus is setting up a siege position on the high ground at 9 - Flash's old third, and even has range on the edge of Flash's min line at the nat.
Not looking good for Flash, they are on equal bases, but Bogus has him semi-contained, while still harassing.

The game slows down now, Flash is floating his third CC to the other third at 6, but doesnt land yet. Wraiths deny Bogus' try at harassing again, flash is taking his third, while Bogus is trying to set up a contain to deny that. CC lands, but no SCVs. Bogus has taken Flash's original third, and made a valk to defend from wraits, even though Flash only has 2

Moderate engagement outside of Flash's third, both sides lose a lot, but Bogus is happier trading armies at this point. Flash only takes gas from his third, Bogus is starting his fourth base at 12. Not looking good for Flash.

Bogus scouting the map for hidden expos, finding nothing. Flash loses a drophsip to a turret.

Vultures deny Flash any mining at his third, Bogus now has him completely contained to two bases, while setting up his fourth. Flash is trying to move out with two dropships, but Bogus is pushing the front with overwhelming numbers!

Flash will have to tap out looks like, they both bring scvs

GG from Flash!

impressive play by Bogus, out-multitasked God, and looks very smug leaving the booth.
Had a dentist appointment, missed this game, I love you :>
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 30 2012 11:09 GMT
#195
On May 30 2012 20:08 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 20:07 538 wrote:
Flash lost 14+ SCVs to the initial vulture pressure. No recovery from that.

wat ?

not that many..

lol

That's about what i counted too.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
May 30 2012 11:09 GMT
#196
On May 30 2012 20:08 Sawamura wrote:
So how does tie breaker works ? how many points does one have to get to win the tie breaker .

You have to win 2 games (win against both opponents)
If everyone wins just 1 game in the 3-game round robin, they repeat.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 30 2012 11:09 GMT
#197
On May 30 2012 20:08 Sawamura wrote:
So how does tie breaker works ? how many points does one have to get to win the tie breaker .


You go round robin until someone wins 2-0 for a round. Technically it can go forever.

And one time it went for 7+ hours. Let's just say fuck Effort's Mouse.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 30 2012 11:09 GMT
#198
On May 30 2012 20:09 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 20:08 Sinedd wrote:
On May 30 2012 20:07 538 wrote:
Flash lost 14+ SCVs to the initial vulture pressure. No recovery from that.

wat ?

not that many..

lol

That's about what i counted too.

seriously ?

no way man..

I counted like 8 max

which is alot too actually
T H C makes ppl happy
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51691 Posts
May 30 2012 11:09 GMT
#199
On May 30 2012 20:01 Zona wrote:
Kespa better wake up. If star players don't perform in BW or SC2, nobody's going to stay to watch whatever abomination this has become.

The fans who like BW won't stay.
The fans who like the stars will start to fall away when the stars stop winning. The most extreme, loyal fans to each star will remain, but everyone else will lose interest as well.


i know this sounds extremely silly but i can assure you there will be players to replace TBLS. honestly, who would have thought there would be players to replace boxer, yellow, reach, nada, nal_ra, savior etc?
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
May 30 2012 11:10 GMT
#200
Wat...did OGN just say that Grape has 1 win no losses vs terran, 100%
but is also no wins 2 losses vs Fantasy, or 0%?
How do they select their stats?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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