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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 30 2012 11:10 GMT
#201
GO FANTASY!

If you win you will be above 90% winrate since sk planet season 1!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 30 2012 11:10 GMT
#202
Looking at the replay, Flash's once god-mode crisis management was really at fault for his loss. I really hope he can recover that in the tiebreakers.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
May 30 2012 11:10 GMT
#203
fantasy already advanced even if he loses
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 30 2012 11:10 GMT
#204
Time for Fantasy to squash Grape so hard he makes wine <$
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
May 30 2012 11:11 GMT
#205
On May 30 2012 20:10 Zona wrote:
Wat...did OGN just say that Grape has 1 win no losses vs terran, 100%
but is also no wins 2 losses vs Fantasy, or 0%?
How do they select their stats?

They throw darts and use Proleague stats as well, because mixing games makes sense and all that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 30 2012 11:11 GMT
#206
On May 30 2012 20:10 Asha` wrote:
Time for Fantasy to squash Grape so hard he makes wine <$

GO GO GO ! :D
T H C makes ppl happy
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
May 30 2012 11:11 GMT
#207
On May 30 2012 20:09 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 20:01 Zona wrote:
Kespa better wake up. If star players don't perform in BW or SC2, nobody's going to stay to watch whatever abomination this has become.

The fans who like BW won't stay.
The fans who like the stars will start to fall away when the stars stop winning. The most extreme, loyal fans to each star will remain, but everyone else will lose interest as well.


i know this sounds extremely silly but i can assure you there will be players to replace TBLS. honestly, who would have thought there would be players to replace boxer, yellow, reach, nada, nal_ra, savior etc?

Oh, I agree there will be stars to replace them.

But the problem now is that the only thing going for Kespa in this BW->SC2 transition are the stars. If the stars don't perform there will be a shrinkage in the fanbase.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 30 2012 11:11 GMT
#208
On May 30 2012 20:09 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 20:01 Zona wrote:
Kespa better wake up. If star players don't perform in BW or SC2, nobody's going to stay to watch whatever abomination this has become.

The fans who like BW won't stay.
The fans who like the stars will start to fall away when the stars stop winning. The most extreme, loyal fans to each star will remain, but everyone else will lose interest as well.


i know this sounds extremely silly but i can assure you there will be players to replace TBLS. honestly, who would have thought there would be players to replace boxer, yellow, reach, nada, nal_ra, savior etc?

The problem is that the only way to legitimize the transition is to keep some well known player.
Don't see it working either anyway, I don't give starcraft on OGN much more time.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 30 2012 11:11 GMT
#209
Who cares Fantasy is more fun to watch, if Fantasy is the player to overcome in this last season of BW im perfectly fine with this. If ALL players were playing bad than ye, but seriously while iconism is important to little degree you cant really say OSL will be shit without Flash if Jin Air was awesome without JD Flash Bisu Stork in final/semi final it can be as awesome.
Stork[gm]
Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
May 30 2012 11:12 GMT
#210
On May 30 2012 20:04 J1.au wrote:
I'm trying hard to care but the truth is I don't view this OSL as being that legitimate. Flash lost, no big deal. This is nothing like when he lost to Ssak and Classic, which was pretty hard to take. Also he's not out entirely yet.


I pretty much feel the same. =(

There are much more knowledgeable people than me when it comes to game analysis, but this game... I mean Bogus did his job, sure, but I feel like I haven't seen such a bad game from Flash in the last 3-4 years..
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 30 2012 11:12 GMT
#211
Replay shows Bogus took the third at 9 mere seconds after making Flash's CC lift, shows he had an actual gameplan for it, expanding aggressively along his push. it's arguable that flash should have taken the third at 6 instead? That, coupled with the huge number of SCVs lost to vultures sealed Flash's fate earlier than I thought.
BW fighting!
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
May 30 2012 11:12 GMT
#212
Fantasy will be the number one terran player overthrowing Flash this season.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
May 30 2012 11:12 GMT
#213
Go Fantasy! Do it for Mini!
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
May 30 2012 11:13 GMT
#214
Wow. Didn't expect FlaSh to lose!!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
May 30 2012 11:13 GMT
#215
Well TBH I do expect to be pleased with the outcome of this OSL...since Fantasy is my favorite player and he doesn't seem to have deteriorated in BW like many other players have.

But one thing to keep in mind is that Kespa gave up one of their few revenue sources (league licensing fees) when agreeing to transition to SC2 (and submitting to Blizzard). I'm just wondering how much of their plan is grounded upon false hope.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 30 2012 11:13 GMT
#216
On May 30 2012 20:09 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 20:09 corumjhaelen wrote:
On May 30 2012 20:08 Sinedd wrote:
On May 30 2012 20:07 538 wrote:
Flash lost 14+ SCVs to the initial vulture pressure. No recovery from that.

wat ?

not that many..

lol

That's about what i counted too.

seriously ?

no way man..

I counted like 8 max

which is alot too actually

In mirror builds (also flash proxied) it's not easy to come back from and the double dropship harrass just compounded things and killed more workers. The damage plus his fast third made flash look more stretched/weaker than usual imo. The only thing i really fault is the initial vulture defence
Yhamm is the god of predictions
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
May 30 2012 11:13 GMT
#217
Come on Enigma!

Sounds like I missed some drama with the previous game, but at least I made it in time to watch Fanta.
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
May 30 2012 11:14 GMT
#218
GRAYPUUUUUUU
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
May 30 2012 11:14 GMT
#219
Neo Ground Zero - breeding ground for terrorists.

Fantasy the mastermind (terran) at 10.5
Grape the poor victim (protoss) at 7.5
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
May 30 2012 11:14 GMT
#220
On May 30 2012 20:13 Zona wrote:
Well TBH I do expect to be pleased with the outcome of this OSL...since Fantasy is my favorite player and he doesn't seem to have deteriorated in BW like many other players have.

But one thing to keep in mind is that Kespa gave up one of their few revenue sources (league licensing fees) when agreeing to transition to SC2 (and submitting to Blizzard). I'm just wondering how much of their plan is grounded upon false hope.


League licensing fees ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
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