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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 07 2012 17:12 GMT
#1141
ohhhh my god the results ohhhhhhhhhhh
GOTTA WATCH!
[TLMS] REBOOT
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
January 07 2012 17:37 GMT
#1142
Canata > JD…

how the mighty have fallen
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5182 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 17:39:36
January 07 2012 17:39 GMT
#1143
The Tyrant got r4p3d ^^;
GGs Ace!!
FBH #1!
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
January 07 2012 17:52 GMT
#1144
I'm quite concerned for Team 8 now, they havn't found a sponsor yet, and they keep putting on bad results... and even Jaedong has fallen to Canata... If they are going to disband most of the players will have to retire..
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#1145
LOOOOOL

I have Jaehoon Kal and Great on my FPL, WIN!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 07 2012 18:42 GMT
#1146
Worst Jaedong game i have ever seen, seriously that was so bad.Talk about deep slump.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
blahblahblahwhatever
Profile Joined June 2011
Armenia52 Posts
January 07 2012 18:47 GMT
#1147
Just watched Jaedong vs Canata...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not even 1 spore? Like just 1? I think this game has clearly and exhaustively proven that making static defense is incommensurably less wasteful than not making static defense. What was that, like 100 overlords?
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
January 07 2012 19:51 GMT
#1148
ACE for playoffs
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 07 2012 19:54 GMT
#1149
trololol, once the tosses get a win, the rest of T8 falls apart.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
January 07 2012 19:57 GMT
#1150
LOL WHAT?@!
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
January 07 2012 20:10 GMT
#1151
On January 08 2012 03:47 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Just watched Jaedong vs Canata...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not even 1 spore? Like just 1? I think this game has clearly and exhaustively proven that making static defense is incommensurably less wasteful than not making static defense. What was that, like 100 overlords?


Also he had hydra tech, and with just making 5-6 hydras guard the ovies, I think it would've been a little bit more helpful.
ggaemo fan
Nightrage
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece212 Posts
January 07 2012 20:11 GMT
#1152
T8 WTF

I hope they can come back from this awful start..the last thing we need is another team disbanding.
It ain't easy being cheesy
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8587 Posts
January 07 2012 20:12 GMT
#1153
On January 08 2012 05:10 valaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 03:47 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Just watched Jaedong vs Canata...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not even 1 spore? Like just 1? I think this game has clearly and exhaustively proven that making static defense is incommensurably less wasteful than not making static defense. What was that, like 100 overlords?


Also he had hydra tech, and with just making 5-6 hydras guard the ovies, I think it would've been a little bit more helpful.


Because 6 Valks take so much damage from 6 Hydras or 1-2 Spores, right? o.O
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
January 07 2012 20:22 GMT
#1154
On January 08 2012 03:47 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Just watched Jaedong vs Canata...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not even 1 spore? Like just 1? I think this game has clearly and exhaustively proven that making static defense is incommensurably less wasteful than not making static defense. What was that, like 100 overlords?



On January 08 2012 05:12 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 05:10 valaki wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:47 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Just watched Jaedong vs Canata...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not even 1 spore? Like just 1? I think this game has clearly and exhaustively proven that making static defense is incommensurably less wasteful than not making static defense. What was that, like 100 overlords?


Also he had hydra tech, and with just making 5-6 hydras guard the ovies, I think it would've been a little bit more helpful.


Because 6 Valks take so much damage from 6 Hydras or 1-2 Spores, right? o.O


What he said. 2 Volleys = 4-5 OVs in a clump dead (or as many as there are). How much damage does a spore do during that time? Or a hanful of Hydras for that matter.

Plague + Hydra would have been helpful, or better scourge spreading + Valk hunting earlier on (im aware its very difficult). But no, a Spore or two or a handful of Hydra wouldn't have helped. And Canata kept repairing his Valks when they are Plagued T_T

The Dong was behind right after the opening tho, when he got his 3rd denied..
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 07 2012 20:24 GMT
#1155
On January 08 2012 05:12 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 05:10 valaki wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:47 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Just watched Jaedong vs Canata...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not even 1 spore? Like just 1? I think this game has clearly and exhaustively proven that making static defense is incommensurably less wasteful than not making static defense. What was that, like 100 overlords?


Also he had hydra tech, and with just making 5-6 hydras guard the ovies, I think it would've been a little bit more helpful.


Because 6 Valks take so much damage from 6 Hydras or 1-2 Spores, right? o.O


You need to act as if you're dealing with corsairs. Spores and some hydras would help.

Jaedong was supplied block half the freaking game. It was so painful to watch. It reminded me PvZ from 2007 when Zerg didn't know how to act when dealing with corsairs,,,
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 20:50:39
January 07 2012 20:33 GMT
#1156
On January 08 2012 05:12 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 05:10 valaki wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:47 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Just watched Jaedong vs Canata...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not even 1 spore? Like just 1? I think this game has clearly and exhaustively proven that making static defense is incommensurably less wasteful than not making static defense. What was that, like 100 overlords?


Also he had hydra tech, and with just making 5-6 hydras guard the ovies, I think it would've been a little bit more helpful.


Because 6 Valks take so much damage from 6 Hydras or 1-2 Spores, right? o.O


They get one-shotted with plague?

What terran would rather have valks than vessels in late game? It worked because Jaedong's entire anti-air is composed of muta, scourge, and a few hydras that later morphed into lurkers.

Edit: Jaedong basically fell apart that game. Something's wrong when multiple defilers died by mines and vultures. It seems really silly to go-- Late game mass valks revolution!~ based on a game where JD played horrendously.
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
January 07 2012 23:21 GMT
#1157
The game was lost when he traded all his mutas for 3 valks in Canata's main. He should have retreated and remade scourge to fight for air superiority. There was nothing he can do once he lost that muta flock. In hindsight the best thing for him to do was go all air with lots of scourge and ling support. Canata didn't even have build an ebay so he should know the mech transition was going to be super early. Once Canata won complete air superiority there was no coming back. Spores or hydras aren't going to protect your OL's from 6 or more valkyries with just +1 upgrade. Going beyond +1 was more of a ceremony than strategy.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
January 08 2012 01:03 GMT
#1158
On January 07 2012 21:16 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 21:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 07 2012 21:04 bgx wrote:
Was that really first +3 air upgrade ever in tvz?

Yes. I think he killed over a hundred overlords.

Every time obs would select a valks it had 15+ kills, and he constantly had between 4 and 8 of them, streaming from two ports.

Have to notice how Jaedong has problems adapting to new stuff like that. It reminded me his game against FBH where he got eaten by 3 battlecruiser against which he clearly didn't know how to react.

or when stork made 3 gates at his natural ^^

Really sad to admit, but JD is not a very flexible player. Hes stubborn as hell, and most of the time he will force the game to bend his way (which is amazing!). He sees an opening, he will take it and crush you with that, but once he picks a tech tree he will stick with it till he wins or dies.. Can't adapt well... even when he wins some games it feel like he coulda won so much easier. That zvp on chain reaction a couple weeks ago.... he went mass mass mass hydra and since its jaedong's macro it worked. But if he just morphed in a couple lurks and played a tiny little bit smarter he woulda CRUSHED the p from the start of the game, instead of dragging it on and giving him an opportunity to even it up (actually I think the P was ahead at one point)

I think zvz is the exception to that rule though..
Jaedong.
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
January 08 2012 02:07 GMT
#1159
VALK OWNAGE!!! air force using air, poor team 8
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 08 2012 02:10 GMT
#1160
On January 08 2012 10:03 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 21:16 bgx wrote:
On January 07 2012 21:14 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 07 2012 21:04 bgx wrote:
Was that really first +3 air upgrade ever in tvz?

Yes. I think he killed over a hundred overlords.

Every time obs would select a valks it had 15+ kills, and he constantly had between 4 and 8 of them, streaming from two ports.

Have to notice how Jaedong has problems adapting to new stuff like that. It reminded me his game against FBH where he got eaten by 3 battlecruiser against which he clearly didn't know how to react.

or when stork made 3 gates at his natural ^^

Really sad to admit, but JD is not a very flexible player. Hes stubborn as hell, and most of the time he will force the game to bend his way (which is amazing!). He sees an opening, he will take it and crush you with that, but once he picks a tech tree he will stick with it till he wins or dies.. Can't adapt well... even when he wins some games it feel like he coulda won so much easier. That zvp on chain reaction a couple weeks ago.... he went mass mass mass hydra and since its jaedong's macro it worked. But if he just morphed in a couple lurks and played a tiny little bit smarter he woulda CRUSHED the p from the start of the game, instead of dragging it on and giving him an opportunity to even it up (actually I think the P was ahead at one point)

I think zvz is the exception to that rule though..

Yeah Jaedong is all MUSCLE.
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