EPTThe fact that SKT got almost entirely favorable matchups should tell you their coaches know what they are doing. This is nobody's fault.
[SPL] Grand Finals: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 397
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moopie
12605 Posts
The fact that SKT got almost entirely favorable matchups should tell you their coaches know what they are doing. This is nobody's fault. | ||
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Vazze
Sweden279 Posts
On August 20 2011 08:54 Toadily wrote: I just realized that it should've been 6-1 if roo somehow didn't completely fail after those initial zerglings and action actually made some units especially lurkers, even 2 lurkers would've been completely enough to hold that push and be so far ahead on econ that it would've been impossible to lose It could've been 4-0 for SKT if Hoejjas didn't decide to cheese. Placing that hatch on his third made s2 go defensive because he didnt scout 12 hatch and went gas before pool. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On August 20 2011 09:19 Vazze wrote: It could've been 4-0 for SKT if Hoejjas didn't decide to cheese. Placing that hatch on his third made s2 go defensive because he didnt scout 12 hatch and went gas before pool. huh? 1) HoeJJa didn't cheese 2) s2's overgas opening didn't at all depend on HoeJJa. His overlord was still in the middle of the map when he put the gas and pool down. The location of HoeJJa's expo did buy HoeJJa a few seconds of keeping s2 in the dark once s2's overlord arrived, but when it reached HoeJJa's main he knew there was another hatch. + Show Spoiler [vod] + | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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Bop4yH
United States67 Posts
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On August 20 2011 09:05 moopie wrote: People need to lay off Park and BeSt. SKT's coaches know what their players can and can't do 100 times better than the fans who only get to watch the televised games. They spent hundreds of hours preparing for these games and analyzing KT. BeSt was definitely the right call for taking Flash out, and he played to the best of his abilities. Its unfortunate that he lost twice because fans will blame him for SKT's loss today, but Flash is the hardest player in the world to take down, even for a macro beast like BeSt. Instead of blaming either BeSt or coach Park, SKT fans should recognize all the effort they put into preparing, accept the loss and keep their spirits up until next season. The fact that SKT got almost entirely favorable matchup should tell you their coaches know what they are doing. This is nobody's fault. So much THIS. SKT got what they wanted out of the match-ups, and BeSt and the Zs couldn't capitalize on it. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
One thing's for sure, though: There wasn't a single person in that audience on either the KT or the SKT1 side who didn't want to see Flash vs Bisu for the finals. | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
FINALLY A TEAM LEAGUE WIN FOR REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH!!! | ||
HawaiianPig
Canada5155 Posts
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
On August 20 2011 09:24 moopie wrote: huh? 1) HoeJJa didn't cheese 2) s2's overgas opening didn't at all depend on HoeJJa. His overlord was still in the middle of the map when he put the gas and pool down. The location of HoeJJa's expo did buy HoeJJa a few seconds of keeping s2 in the dark once s2's overlord arrived, but when it reached HoeJJa's main he knew there was another hatch. + Show Spoiler [vod] + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykBbi-K0oJc 1) HoeJJa did cheese, in zvz, hidden hatch outside of nat is pretty much cheese 2) the cheese actually backfired due to the overgas because it created 2 spots for s2 to attack with his mutas and lings, s2 simply didnt choose to abuse that fact by pushing the multiple fronts, which is an unforced error that ultimately cost him the game. | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
I'd have liked it if Bisu practiced for the ace, but I think he was actually meant to snipe Stats (I honestly think Fantasy, Bisu, and Soo were preparing for Stats) because once he does that KT has no way to reach the ace. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
fantasy and bisu for easy wins s2 for zvz best for pvt against flash twice soo for zvp KT still managed to win, they deserved it. | ||
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Kira Yamato
Vietnam5 Posts
Coark Park: "We will 4-0 or 4-1" Coach Lee: "Oh really, so you must send BBF early, so I'll send Stats and Flash, mwuhahahah" Coach Park *thinking* "you guys are nooobs, do you really think I will save BBF because of that, I will 4-0 you mwuahahahha" Coach Lee: "Oh, you are smart, huh, but not enough, because here is my ultimate fucking master plan: 4 ZERG IN A ROW" SKT coaches, audience, commentators: WTFFFFF | ||
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HiNoon
United States31 Posts
The last, the best. BW brings tears of joy to all young KT fans <3 | ||
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nodnod
New Zealand172 Posts
Basically I think KT won because they were proactive and SKT lost because they were reactive. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 20 2011 09:51 kdgns wrote: 1) HoeJJa did cheese, in zvz, hidden hatch outside of nat is pretty much cheese 2) the cheese actually backfired due to the overgas because it created 2 spots for s2 to attack with his mutas and lings, s2 simply didnt choose to abuse that fact by pushing the multiple fronts, which is an unforced error that ultimately cost him the game. Maybe if the hatch is in your opponent's main it's cheese. When it's at another base entirely to gather resources? Not so much. | ||
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Keone
United States812 Posts
On August 20 2011 09:37 GolemMadness wrote: Gotta feel kinda bad for Best, having to play Flash twice. Not at all. I am 100% positive that Best was training JUST to snipe Flash. Why else would he be sent out in ACE? I'm pretty sure SKT coaches got exactly what they wanted... they just couldn't make it work in the actual games. | ||
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
On August 20 2011 10:42 TwoToneTerran wrote: Maybe if the hatch is in your opponent's main it's cheese. When it's at another base entirely to gather resources? Not so much. Exactly. It's not like every possible misdirection is cheese. Not to mention that this is a case of a risky economic opening (and I completely reject the concept of "econ cheese") | ||
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