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P&C vs SKT T1
NaDa(T, P&C) > Kingdom (P, SKT T1)
NaDa(T, P&C) > Mumyung (Z, SKT T1)
NaDa(T, P&C) < iloveoov (T, SKT T1)
SiR@SoNi~ (Z, P&C) < iloveoov (T, SKT T1)
TheRock[3.33] (P, P&C) < iloveoov (T, SKT T1)
P&C 2:3 SKT T1
Few words on what happened in NaDa vs oov game. Oov went proxy rax and made some damage to NaDa's scvs, but NaDa defended and went 1 fact, cc. Oov went in wraith and with nice micro killed a lot of scvs. NaDa made tons of goliaths, but oov made 2 facts and began pumping only tanks, taking the expo.
After that NaDa made some dropships, but oov saw them and killed with wraiths before NaDa could use them. NaDa tried to push with gols, but oov had many tanks. Oov contained NaDa and took 2 expoes. So he just pushed and finally NaDa GG'ed.
NaDa is really losing much to oov, like oov to July 
Oov making a kill-all made me very happy and gave me confidence in him. 
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
oh well since oov doesn't have to worry about osl or msl atm he just rolled over P&C instead
nice
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How does MBC team league work? Is it like brackets or groups or what?
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
it's best of seven, each team presents a lineup, the winning player stays until he looses and the loosing player of the opposite team gets replaced by the next player of their lineup.
so one team can win 4:0 with only one player playing
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Ahah, Nada about to all-kill, then oov comes up and takes it. :D
It doesn't look like the monster terran is slumping anymore. And it doesn't look like Nada yet knows how to beat him, either.
I'd really really like to watch the vods.
Carnac > it's bo5 now, I guess.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
yeah my mistake
it was bo7, now it's bo5
or maybe i'm confusing sth
the rest i said should be correct tho
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rofl.. oov and nada are like Bowsers- and kingdom, mumyung, sirasoni, rock are like Bowser's helpless minions of mushrooms.
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by the way, kingdom is definitely nada's bitch as well
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i wanted to ask what is P&C?
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
the pro team called "toona sg" (featuring nada, goodfriend, sir@soni, therock and some more) became "pantech & curitel (P&C) several months ago, because of changed sponsorship
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17056 Posts
Mumyung just throws 1000000 lings on attack move hoping to get a win. He'd be like those crazy mini bowsers that just run up to you and blow up.
<3 MuMyung 
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MuMyung and TeratO must be the worst affair SKT T1 has ever done. Mumyung hasn't done anything since he joined them. I don't even think he's won a single proleague/teamleague match. Besides since MuMyung left Plus, they've been a lot better.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
mumyung won vs themarin, don't exactly remember when..., but he was in skt1 already
was an awful game to watch though, mumyung's inability to finish a long won game really made me cry
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17056 Posts
Yeah it was a while ago. Marine knew he lost the game, and just bmed with Vessels and Wraiths. It was surprisingly effective and lived for quite a while even though MuMyung had map and tons of units. I think it was on Mercury =/
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United States33587 Posts
today was not a good day for ordinary mortals 
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Sometimes Mumying can play incredibly well. I remember seeing him do an all-kill in some teamleague, raping some terran and then humiliating Foru (not sure) with fast mutas/burrowed lings.
And the first time I've heard of him, it was MBC winners' championship (I think) and he raped tons of Terrans before crushing Yellow 3-0 in finals (not sure about the score either, maybe 3-1). I wonder how the fuck he can sometimes get that bad (although losing to Nada is not really a shame, it's more like, recently).
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
This is starting to suck for Nada. He's not really worse than OOV.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On January 22 2005 12:25 Empyrean wrote:
Yeah it was a while ago. Marine knew he lost the game, and just bmed with Vessels and Wraiths. It was surprisingly effective and lived for quite a while even though MuMyung had map and tons of units. I think it was on Mercury =/
it was some desert map, tucson aka arizona i think
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Why put a player like SiRa vs oov? GooDFriend would have done a lot better I think.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
i'm not sure, but maybe they have to present a fixed lineup? so if they put sir@soni on #2 he has to play as second, no matter what
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iloveoov is fucking strong
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On January 22 2005 11:53 priceless wrote:
MuMyung and TeratO must be the worst affair SKT T1 has ever done. Mumyung hasn't done anything since he joined them. I don't even think he's won a single proleague/teamleague match. Besides since MuMyung left Plus, they've been a lot better.
i have no clue why SKT1 got mumyung, there are so many better gamers
terato was supposed to be the toss of the future for a long time and i guess boxer thought the same thing, its turning out that terato is just another mediocre toss player, proving many many people wrong, including me. i always thought he had potential.
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SKT1 most likely got MuMyung because despite his less-than-stellar performances he had short periods of brilliance that seemed to imply real potential. Look no farther than his surprise MBC Winner's Championship win and there's your reason why Boxer probably saw something in him.
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On January 22 2005 17:36 TheGoliath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2005 11:53 priceless wrote:
MuMyung and TeratO must be the worst affair SKT T1 has ever done. Mumyung hasn't done anything since he joined them. I don't even think he's won a single proleague/teamleague match. Besides since MuMyung left Plus, they've been a lot better. i have no clue why SKT1 got mumyung, there are so many better gamers terato was supposed to be the toss of the future for a long time and i guess boxer thought the same thing, its turning out that terato is just another mediocre toss player, proving many many people wrong, including me. i always thought he had potential.
I think that it's because Boxer has a heart.
Look at half of the players he's recruited: Kos, Rainbow, and Mumyung. Boxer and them we're all in the IS team in the past. Kos and Rainbow have slumped for the longest time but Boxer still keeps them in the team.
And oov mentioning Boxer everytime he is iviewed, also Mumyung keeping a picture of Boxer on top of his comp like FightAsBlind shows their respect for Boxer's kindness.
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On January 22 2005 14:20 priceless wrote:
Why put a player like SiRa vs oov? GooDFriend would have done a lot better I think.
im pretty sure the lineup is pre picked
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On January 22 2005 18:13 bigMommA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2005 17:36 TheGoliath wrote:On January 22 2005 11:53 priceless wrote:
MuMyung and TeratO must be the worst affair SKT T1 has ever done. Mumyung hasn't done anything since he joined them. I don't even think he's won a single proleague/teamleague match. Besides since MuMyung left Plus, they've been a lot better. i have no clue why SKT1 got mumyung, there are so many better gamers terato was supposed to be the toss of the future for a long time and i guess boxer thought the same thing, its turning out that terato is just another mediocre toss player, proving many many people wrong, including me. i always thought he had potential. I think that it's because Boxer has a heart. Look at half of the players he's recruited: Kos, Rainbow, and Mumyung. Boxer and them we're all in the IS team in the past. Kos and Rainbow have slumped for the longest time but Boxer still keeps them in the team. And oov mentioning Boxer everytime he is iviewed, also Mumyung keeping a picture of Boxer on top of his comp like FightAsBlind shows their respect for Boxer's kindness.
rainbow is very good actually
top 5 toss after reach, ra, kingdom and zeus
though i haven't heard anything from zeus in a long, long time
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Fuck, GoodFriend might have possibly beaten oov. If there is one T player that oov seems to be understood by, it's GoodFriend (ZinGun). LEE BYUNG MIN FIGHTING. ;p
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Boxer has a heart? Yeah maybe. But why raise someone who's as ugly as Mumyung? They could atleast have recruited some goodlocking fucker.
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lol.
KTF was like "all right, we've almost won!"
Oov steps in. Nada hits a brick wall... and then smack. Mr. Machine gg's em.
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And Testie was like "hey I think KTF = Toona"
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this was so obvious it hurts.
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You look to think that boxer recruit and pick players which i think is totally wrong, boxer is a player not a manager...Each teams have a manager..it's for something.
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Okay, I just watched the game, and just: "wow". iloveoov sill manages to impress me a lot. In short, he totally CRUSHED the 3 players, Nada included. They actually looked like total newbs.
I wonder if Nada has already been raped that hard TvT, seriously. Nada didn't win a single fight and couldn't attack even once. Perfect wraith harrassment, amazing macro *and* micro, great timing, it was like Oov fusioned with Boxer. I highly doubt Nada was in top shape though, despite playing quite godly in his two first games.
Against Soni it was pretty much the same story. I swear I would have thought 'Boxer' if I didn't know who was playing. Basically: 2 port wraith (he's starting to use that a lot vs Z, he even beat July with *3*-port wraith), then 1579 of Soni's drones killed, then ultra-annoying-and-sweet wraith harrasment (he lost like 1 wraith), then a few M&M, then gg.
Then the last game vs Rock. Same story once again, just replace wraiths with vultures/mines and keep the amazing micro/macro/harrassment combined. Third utter rape in a row.
It was just a team league match and I doubt any player Oov faced was trying like it was OSL finals (neither did Oov, though), but I was still really amazed. He already has the best macro in the world, now he's starting to Boxerize his play, that's just <3.
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anybody know where i can find vods or replay files? i am searching on YaoYuan.com but I can't find files
anyone please?
addition
korean people call this kind of situation 'reverse all kill', oov stopped nada's all kill and he made all kill so it's reverse all kill ^^ haha
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On January 24 2005 12:30 Bard wrote:
anybody know where i can find vods or replay files? i am searching on YaoYuan.com but I can't find files
anyone please?
I did a request for those vods on gosureplays.com but looks like nobody got them. Sucks. =/
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ejai63
United States2101 Posts
nada owned in both wins, but oov owned even more in his 3 wins...all total rapes
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Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
On January 22 2005 19:29 Carnac wrote:
rainbow is very good actually
top 5 toss after reach, ra, kingdom and zeus
though i haven't heard anything from zeus in a long, long time
Rainbow does not seem very good, relatively speaking, and hasn't done anything in a long time... what was that last league, I forget what it was called, where Rainbow was getting killed, and the only reason no one noticed was because one player was always doing one game worse (Eros~Rage)... anyways, I do not think Rainbow deserves to really be listed as a "top protoss", the only reason he is really even known as a higher end Protoss is not because he is good, but because besides the top 3 (Reach/Ra/Kingdom) there really AREN'T any "top" quality Protoss players.
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On January 24 2005 22:45 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2005 12:30 Bard wrote:
anybody know where i can find vods or replay files? i am searching on YaoYuan.com but I can't find files
anyone please?
I did a request for those vods on gosureplays.com but looks like nobody got them. Sucks. =/
I'm uploading the VODs right now.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On January 24 2005 12:18 PoP wrote:
I wonder if Nada has already been raped that hard TvT, seriously. Nada didn't win a single fight and couldn't attack even once. Perfect wraith harrassment, amazing macro *and* micro, great timing, it was like Oov fusioned with Boxer. I highly doubt Nada was in top shape though, despite playing quite godly in his two first games.
worse than on their luna games in msl finals (game 1+5)?
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
i've watched vods of these series last night and oov's records in MBC Team Leagues were just unbelievable :D.
18-3 all-time, 10-0 as a relief runner. also he's yet been undefeated vs Z (14-0) in mbcgame (MSL+MTL)
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
On January 25 2005 02:24 GTR-2-Go wrote:
FW YOUR BACK!!!!!
i'm around but ain't back in a form like before. i've just been spending a bit in browsing.
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I liked seeing Oov beat NaDa. I like NaDa a lot, but Oov more ^^.
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On January 24 2005 23:30 Carnac wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2005 12:18 PoP wrote:
I wonder if Nada has already been raped that hard TvT, seriously. Nada didn't win a single fight and couldn't attack even once. Perfect wraith harrassment, amazing macro *and* micro, great timing, it was like Oov fusioned with Boxer. I highly doubt Nada was in top shape though, despite playing quite godly in his two first games.
worse than on their luna games in msl finals (game 1+5)?
It was much shorter, but I think it was actually worse, yes.
mtheory > thank you very much.
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On January 22 2005 12:55 HnR)hT wrote:This is starting to suck for Nada. He's not really worse than OOV.
Agreed. I just guess its psychological advantage and all that. Many players seems to have that to eachother.
gw by oov anyway
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On January 25 2005 03:08 AMDme wrote:
boxer didn't play?
boxer rarely plays 1v1s in team leagues. hes more of a 2v2 person
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after the match oov recorded 10-0 as Captain and 15-0 (not sure) vs Zerg record
no lost record as captain  of course his winning record as other positions (1st & 2nd) is also good but 10-0 is just superb superb
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On January 25 2005 17:17 Ace wrote:
Xellos>Oov>Nada>Xellos
BoxeR>NaDa>XellOs>Oov>NaDa and BoxeR T.T
XellOs = dumbass
Oov = boring, doesn't take much risk like BoxeR and NaDa
gogogogog BoxeR and NaDa!!!!
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What an equation!
Errr, Inequality...
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On January 25 2005 17:05 1hp wrote:boxer rarely plays 1v1s in team leagues. hes more of a 2v2 person
boxer 2v2 person?
you must be kidding me
He plays 2v2 only because he enjoys beating vs 2 zergs alone 
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On January 25 2005 17:20 mightypenny_ph wrote:BoxeR>NaDa>XellOs>Oov>NaDa and BoxeR T.T XellOs = dumbass Oov = boring, doesn't take much risk like BoxeR and NaDa gogogogog BoxeR and NaDa!!!!
Noone has wraith control like oov - his wraith micro is by far more entertaining than boxer's MM micro or anything else...
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um..boxer isnt included in Top 3 TvT because he doesnt have a good enough record vs any of them to be in it(unless we count his last match with Oov). Xellos and Nada arguably have better control than Oov also
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just watched the oov vs nada game, omg is all i have to say.
oov is such a monster haha.
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On January 26 2005 09:37 ky[Z] wrote:
just watched the oov vs nada game, omg is all i have to say.
oov is such a monster haha.
omfg would me more adequate though ;o
btw mtheory, shoudn't the VODs be available on gosureplays by now? -_-
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On January 25 2005 10:30 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2005 23:30 Carnac wrote:On January 24 2005 12:18 PoP wrote:
I wonder if Nada has already been raped that hard TvT, seriously. Nada didn't win a single fight and couldn't attack even once. Perfect wraith harrassment, amazing macro *and* micro, great timing, it was like Oov fusioned with Boxer. I highly doubt Nada was in top shape though, despite playing quite godly in his two first games.
worse than on their luna games in msl finals (game 1+5)? It was much shorter, but I think it was actually worse, yes.
omg, i just saw the vod
nada got annihilated like a random battle.net newbie
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
oh and rock deserves to be called gorilla a lot more than oov does
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EPT
