• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:33
CET 14:33
KST 22:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool40Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Soulkey's decision to leave C9 JaeDong's form before ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
U4GM Tips Counter Enemy Gadgets Fast in Black Ops rsvsr How to Keep Reward Chains Rolling in Monopol u4gm What to Do First in MLB The Show 26 Spring
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1548 users

Yellow's side of the story. - Page 11

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Firazpiral
Profile Joined May 2004
59 Posts
November 14 2004 08:09 GMT
#201
If you pool first, dual 8 rax will annihilate you. You'll have 10 lings or so when he has 8 or so rines and a varied amount of scvs banging your expo, making bunkers turrets and command centers.
Firazpiral
Profile Joined May 2004
59 Posts
November 14 2004 08:10 GMT
#202
We are all monsters.
FreeMarine
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada76 Posts
November 14 2004 08:15 GMT
#203
You guys are dumb. Lets see this same boxer strat being used in half of the tvz games at the pro level then I would say there might be balancing issues. But thats not going to happen so just be quiet.
homoerectus_
Profile Joined September 2003
149 Posts
November 14 2004 08:38 GMT
#204
Boxer 3-0s Yellow and suddenly people start talking about a new patch to even this 'imbalance'.

The only imbalance is Boxer > Yellow.

Thank you and good night.
ScoliosiS
Profile Joined December 2003
283 Posts
November 14 2004 09:09 GMT
#205
which map did they play on, mani sucks
Abnormal Lateral Curvature of the Spine
AirMouse
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada106 Posts
November 14 2004 09:43 GMT
#206
Keep up the great work sharp, All of the translations you've provided recently, really make us closer to the pro gaming scene.
Bladox
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada763 Posts
November 14 2004 10:20 GMT
#207
On November 14 2004 17:15 FreeMarine wrote:
You guys are dumb. Lets see this same boxer strat being used in half of the tvz games at the pro level then I would say there might be balancing issues. But thats not going to happen so just be quiet.


3rd post and already calling people '' dumb''.....
this is not a good way to start here.....
Huh no sorry... this game isnt like counter-strike... You actually need skills to play broodwar!
FreeMarine
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada76 Posts
November 14 2004 10:27 GMT
#208
I've been reading tl for awhile just started posting now. Secondly it's none of your business what I say Im not going to be a brown noser to the admins like you seem to be doing just because they frequently ban people.
Firazpiral
Profile Joined May 2004
59 Posts
November 14 2004 13:27 GMT
#209
You guys are dumb k.
worst.player
Profile Joined July 2004
625 Posts
November 14 2004 14:04 GMT
#210
hmmm thats like saying try to outmacro Oov

Watch and take notes from Reach.

Yellow said that he thinks terran has an advantage (HE confirmed what I thought) and if there is someone in this world that knows this game better than everyone else (especially the zvt matchup), I think it is yellow.

To be the devil's advocate, what YellOw says isn't the law/how it is necesarily. Obviously he's one of the best ZvTers in the world, but saying that T>Z because the maps favoured BoxeR's 8rax rush? Hmmm.
Pob
Profile Joined February 2004
880 Posts
November 14 2004 14:38 GMT
#211
so yellow wants them to weaken terran so he can finally win some tournies and get some more moolah.....whats the big deal it'll never happen
Jansports
Profile Joined November 2004
United States80 Posts
November 14 2004 15:42 GMT
#212
Well theoreticly if a persons Micro was 100% on (OR at least 97.8% on) then an SCV Should never even attack a drone, So long as each drone is 10)% (at least 97.8%) Microed they will all kill SCVs for free (Go 1 range)

So they should weaken drones!!

I Dont think just because something seems one way games should be patched. For a while now the Lurk range > Bunk range has botherd me, its like Zerg has TWO seige units. And why do all the races have differant 50 mineral cost basic units. I mean 2 Melee guys or 1 ranged guy!? Imabalance!

The game has Differances in races, otherwise I'd be WC2 and there would be no point in having multiple races.
I play P ?!
Geval
Profile Joined September 2004
788 Posts
November 14 2004 16:16 GMT
#213
Worst.player I dont think you get me
READ THE POST CAREFULLY
It was the responce to to what Klogon
Yeah outmacroing oov is possible as "You try surviving long enough to get defilers versus boxer with only one gas...." but in 95% cases you ll lose
WOW cant believe LT gave me BETA KEY thx thx thx thx thx
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7326 Posts
November 14 2004 19:32 GMT
#214
On November 15 2004 00:42 Jansports wrote:
Well theoreticly if a persons Micro was 100% on (OR at least 97.8% on) then an SCV Should never even attack a drone, So long as each drone is 10)% (at least 97.8%) Microed they will all kill SCVs for free (Go 1 range)

So they should weaken drones!!

I Dont think just because something seems one way games should be patched. For a while now the Lurk range > Bunk range has botherd me, its like Zerg has TWO seige units. And why do all the races have differant 50 mineral cost basic units. I mean 2 Melee guys or 1 ranged guy!? Imabalance!

The game has Differances in races, otherwise I'd be WC2 and there would be no point in having multiple races.



good point ;d
theres different races for a reason.....
Just like fighting games where people bitch about balance, which is a fucking joke, they want all the characters and races to be the same or something
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
November 14 2004 19:45 GMT
#215
Bladox, Sadist is a much better player than you will ever be, and even though he's a T player the changes you suggested are bullshit and you really need to shut the fuck up.
too easy
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
November 14 2004 21:02 GMT
#216
terran just have too much advantage early game to cheese with, bunkers, fast rines, scvs, lift off, etc.
How do you mine minerals?
ProudCappi
Profile Joined October 2004
United States366 Posts
November 14 2004 21:44 GMT
#217
On November 15 2004 06:02 poor newb wrote:
terran just have too much advantage early game to cheese with, bunkers, fast rines, scvs, lift off, etc.


Terran can't steal gas.
-proud capitalist- |freedom|property|individualism|self-reliance|
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-14 22:12:05
November 14 2004 22:05 GMT
#218
On November 15 2004 06:44 ProudCappi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2004 06:02 poor newb wrote:
terran just have too much advantage early game to cheese with, bunkers, fast rines, scvs, lift off, etc.


Terran can't steal gas.


terran can build on geyser and continue harress with scv
but why bother to harass gas if you can kill them with bunker rush in one go
1 scv + 1 bunker + 1 marine >>>>> lings + drones
bunker builds damn fast as well, so terran can stop early expo, add turret tanks and zerg is dead
How do you mine minerals?
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
November 14 2004 22:23 GMT
#219
On November 15 2004 07:05 poor newb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2004 06:44 ProudCappi wrote:
On November 15 2004 06:02 poor newb wrote:
terran just have too much advantage early game to cheese with, bunkers, fast rines, scvs, lift off, etc.


Terran can't steal gas.


terran can build on geyser and continue harress with scv
but why bother to harass gas if you can kill them with bunker rush in one go
1 scv + 1 bunker + 1 marine >>>>> lings + drones
bunker builds damn fast as well, so terran can stop early expo, add turret tanks and zerg is dead


now u know the 1 scv + 1 bunker + 1 marine trick, u just mastered the art of tvz~!
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
742
Profile Joined August 2004
United Kingdom58 Posts
November 14 2004 23:27 GMT
#220
yellow should have said gg
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#79
WardiTV643
OGKoka 313
Rex114
IntoTheiNu 40
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko441
OGKoka 313
Harstem 207
ProTech141
Rex 114
LamboSC2 107
MindelVK 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 13469
Bisu 2519
Horang2 2110
Jaedong 1509
Shuttle 1141
Hyuk 679
Larva 459
BeSt 459
Stork 377
Mini 273
[ Show more ]
Leta 256
Light 253
Sharp 213
Zeus 155
Soma 143
Snow 133
ggaemo 128
Rush 127
Pusan 108
Backho 106
PianO 71
Shinee 67
Shine 61
Hm[arnc] 56
ToSsGirL 56
Sea.KH 55
Nal_rA 32
yabsab 28
[sc1f]eonzerg 27
Movie 25
Free 25
GoRush 19
zelot 19
IntoTheRainbow 19
soO 17
Bale 17
sorry 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Terrorterran 13
Noble 8
910 2
Dota 2
Gorgc5300
League of Legends
Reynor30
Counter-Strike
fl0m2712
Fnx 1610
olofmeister1472
shoxiejesuss713
kennyS586
byalli183
Other Games
singsing2110
B2W.Neo844
hiko638
XBOCT468
crisheroes290
Beastyqt271
Sick112
Mew2King73
ArmadaUGS50
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream54
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 22
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 31
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota243
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 27m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
20h 27m
Afreeca Starleague
20h 27m
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 19h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 20h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
5 days
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-22
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.