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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 29 2004 23:54 GMT
#261
On September 30 2004 08:27 Destroyer wrote:
wtf is Tuig ?


Tuig = dutch for Scum.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
September 30 2004 00:39 GMT
#262
Who is [poland] KazioWichura and where is blackman, or did I miss something?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 30 2004 00:42 GMT
#263
Blackman got eliminated rather quickly in WCG Pol~_~
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Levu
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany675 Posts
September 30 2004 00:57 GMT
#264
Kazio is the winner of WCG Poland
i like his style - lets see if he can whip some ass
Time is a drug. Too much of it kills you. - Terry Pratchett
readY_bg
Profile Joined August 2004
Bulgaria168 Posts
September 30 2004 01:22 GMT
#265
A-Fisheye and Knif
B-Twisted and Envy
C-Middas and ALFA
D-Christian and Strafe
E-here if anybody have idea pls msg me
F-Enjoy and Tomson
G-Xellos and Yan or kazio
H-Grrr and andrioide or legionaire
I-Clawson and RRB
J-foru and destroyer
K-Froz and ?
L-Testie and pato
M-Zelotito and Shanhai
N-draco and ?
O-Ex and Cou
P-Mondragon and ? this is very hard group like E but I realy hope mondi will make it
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-30 01:27:23
September 30 2004 01:23 GMT
#266
I was kinda hoping for harder groups for the Koreans, why would they get all the no-names, while group P got some of the most kickass foreigners in 1 group.

I sure hope they'll turn out te be nice brackets, and liquibet for the groups seem nice too ?
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
September 30 2004 03:27 GMT
#267
Does it really matter who the koreans get in the group stages?

Them being seperated from the kick ass foreigners makes for a better top 32 tourny ^^

Personally I wanna see who will win in Grrr/Leg's group
Nak Allstar.
juSblazin
Profile Joined August 2004
United States691 Posts
September 30 2004 04:03 GMT
#268
My Predictions:

A: FisheYe[pG]
B: iD.Twisted
C: Midas[gm]
D: Strafe or Artosis
E: Hard to decide. I want Day to win!!!!! But..... I think Eri will take it.
F: ToT)Tomson(
G: Xellos[yG]
H: Legionnaire
I: Clawson
J: fOrU
K: Hard to decide, Elky/FroZ/Nazgul all good. I want FroZ to win but we havent seen Nazgul game in a while --.
L: rS.Testie
M: Zelotito
N: I want Sugosu, but Draco good too.
O: Cos
P: Again hard to decide. Mondi/Trek/Veg/Manza all good. I think ill leave this one alone.

I have a feeling this is gonna be the best WCG Finals ever. (This is the only one ive actually followed --
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
September 30 2004 04:37 GMT
#269
It will be better than last year.But 2002 had Boxer and Yellow + double elimination and while the maps were also imbalanced at least they were fun to play.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
FeaReD)
Profile Joined November 2003
Canada59 Posts
September 30 2004 05:04 GMT
#270
I believe in you veg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and testie

and grrr


Fisheye got a very nice group eh? still shouldnt under estimate them
Insert witty quote here
Berg_zerg
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany294 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-30 05:17:11
September 30 2004 05:16 GMT
#271
@ beast why are the maps imba ?
(i am only a noob compared to you , so feel free to explain^^)

ChowChow is imo only a sligt advantage for Z over T and P
big map,many expos , many possibilites for using the fast zerg units

Dahlia is only a slight advantage for Z over P and a slight advantage for T over Z
vs T Z has a unlucky situation with eiter lacking gas when taking mineral only as expo
or playing risky and taking the natural with gas.
T has good posibilitys to use the power of sidged tanks and to be relativly save with the mineral only and the zerg is forced to make lots of lings.

while Gorky is imo an advantage for P and T over Z
casue sair are very effective on that map and T has turrets + upgraded goliaths

but the advantages are not that big imo that a better player will loose against a worse player.

I think i have to do some WCGprelim research how the MU statistics are.
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
September 30 2004 06:24 GMT
#272
"Dahlia is only a slight advantage for Z over P and a slight advantage for T over Z
vs T Z has a unlucky situation with eiter lacking gas when taking mineral only as expo
or playing risky and taking the natural with gas.
T has good posibilitys to use the power of sidged tanks and to be relativly save with the mineral only and the zerg is forced to make lots of lings."

Z>>>>>P dahlia Z>>T dahlia
P>>>>>>>>>>T dahlia
Bergkamp ftw!
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
September 30 2004 08:14 GMT
#273
wow, could zelotito have gotten an easier group?
Entusman #12
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
September 30 2004 08:18 GMT
#274
I'll try to explain it.
First- Martian ,which is the most balanced map of the 4.It requires the protoss player to play quite different from usual to have a chance, getting another main fast and running away from the terran as much as possible, till he is able to amass.At least if he gets into late game he should be able to win.
ZvP and TvZ look ok.TvZ may become quite hard with some bad luck ,though.(cross positions i consider bad luck )
Kohral-TvP is insanely hard, because the protoss has so much cheeze its not funny at all.Example - Fisheye-Elky last year.PvZ is completely impossible.Dont let someone convince you in the opposite.Some stupid zergs dont get their mineral only right away and lose...ZvT is very hard, prolly unwinnable at high level,because of the tight middle mostly.

Gorky - ZvP and ZvT and PvT are all pretty hard,playable but pretty hard.
And finally - Dahlia!
At first it looks like Zerg cant take his natural expo vs t.Wrong.The distance is very longer than LT.You cant rush him.The zerg is able to power hard early and the terran has some very big problems with getting his bases running - huge base ,very easy to drop;lurkers harass mineral only;the gas expo is veeery vulnarable.Still, the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg.
TvP - Very hard.Incredibly hard!Distance is long, the gas expo is not available till you get like 10 tanks.The main is built in a way that its very hard to protect from cheeze, especially reaver drops.You have 3 obstacles to pass to get to the enemy base- your own cliff and 2 sets of bridges.It is incredibly hard to stay in the game.Still, if the terran plays perfect, I guess its playable.
PvZ - Impossible.Zerg has + 6 minerals right away.Protoss has no way of defending his gas early and even his mineral only is very hard to defend from lurks.Once the protoss player slows down his zeal production ,the zerg is free to get his gas and do whatever he wants.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
September 30 2004 14:53 GMT
#275
--- Nuked ---
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
JudasT
Profile Joined January 2003
Spain2226 Posts
September 30 2004 15:49 GMT
#276
Thanks Beast. It looks like some Zerg is gonna win this year ?. The progamers are 2 T and 1 P ... chances for noncoreans
Taking the time to have simple fun everyday is a must for a happy life.
FroZZoR
Profile Joined October 2002
China925 Posts
September 30 2004 16:07 GMT
#277
There's no z good enough to win i think...
There can be only one
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 30 2004 16:14 GMT
#278
On September 30 2004 23:53 mcmascote wrote:
"the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg."
lol

If he play worse than the zerg, he will lose.. right?

rofl


He was referring to the fact that if they play at the same level, zerg has the advantage and will probably win, jackass. Manner up.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
September 30 2004 16:15 GMT
#279
On September 30 2004 23:53 mcmascote wrote:
"the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg."
lol

If he play worse than the zerg, he will lose.. right?

rofl


dumb ass. he means terran cant play even as the zerg and win. he HAS to play better.
I put the fu in fun
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-30 17:12:28
September 30 2004 17:11 GMT
#280
On September 30 2004 23:53 mcmascote wrote:
"the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg."
lol

If he play worse than the zerg, he will lose.. right?

rofl

Usually at this level ,the players play about equal.
Ah,I see it was already answered.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
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