EPTNext tuesday we'll know the groups
. They're 16 btw, both for war3 and bw.WCG group drawings
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Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
Next tuesday we'll know the groups . They're 16 btw, both for war3 and bw. | ||
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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Hwoarang
Korea (South)235 Posts
Veg's terran rocks, if we saw them matched up it's gonna be a huge battle, gl hf to both~ i love TvP  | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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beowolf7
Korea (South)68 Posts
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Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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SoL.Origin
Argentina2400 Posts
16x? | ||
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
Stupid single elimination again.And i suppose well know which group well face after and losing on purpose will be very annoying and unfair.(FUCK YOU OGOGO) | ||
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Oem)LimeGoN
United States24 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
IEL went inactive but came back in war3 i duno if they're still around though i think a lot of the players moved on to FF11 | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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Destroyer
Czech Republic937 Posts
On September 25 2004 11:25 Beast_Bg wrote: 4 or 5.. Stupid single elimination again.And i suppose well know which group well face after and losing on purpose will be very annoying and unfair.(FUCK YOU OGOGO) You should write "fuck slog and fuck hellghost" too... | ||
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Ub3rNoOb3r
Canada209 Posts
I hope veg testie and grrr get good easy groups  all-canadian top 3!!! woo | ||
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IcedEarth
United States3661 Posts
Frozzles/Mondi/Testie/Veggie ^_^;; | ||
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KiLLme1st
United States1824 Posts
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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juSblazin
United States691 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
xellos v froz or mondragon maybe? just can't see anyone stopping xellos | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
and despite some people claiming that "it's korea time" or whatever, that is according to worldcybergames.com not true. | ||
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Ub3rNoOb3r
Canada209 Posts
i was really excited | ||
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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SoL.Origin
Argentina2400 Posts
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Talith
United States1102 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
Mazor corrected | ||
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lastas
Sweden1219 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
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Chibi[OWNS]
United Kingdom10597 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
Go go ForU and Leg:-)) | ||
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Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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Chibi[OWNS]
United Kingdom10597 Posts
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relapse
629 Posts
On September 28 2004 13:37 SoL.Origin wrote: someone plz record a video of xellos playing (mouse+keyb) :D will do. | ||
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GG-Mazor
Sweden330 Posts
If they misstyped the date rather than the weekday then the drawing started one hour ago but without any live coverage at their site. | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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iD.Surv
Belgium827 Posts
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GG-Mazor
Sweden330 Posts
On September 28 2004 15:21 Gryffindor_us wrote: Mazor, you have to harass Xellos, get videos of him playing (and Midas/fOru) and tips , secret progamer tips! :D GO SSSWEDEEEE Sure will  | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Samejima
Canada534 Posts
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
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Geptus
Canada203 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
2nd guess would be xellos | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On September 28 2004 11:29 IcedEarth wrote: Go Eriadork fighting~ Wonder if that was a typo or not... | ||
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Berg_zerg
Germany294 Posts
hm, you really think Mondragon will win over Xellos and Midas ? I agree that Mondragon is very strong and probably the best non Korean gamer in WCG04 but Xellos and Midas are definitely a lot stronger. | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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Petza_Gr
Greece299 Posts
guess who... | ||
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Petza_Gr
Greece299 Posts
DIdsnt know eher to post it but: in their site they have only one chinese participating..this means PJ and co never got the visa,is it finalised? GL to everyone | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
god i hope elky/giyom/drone all took the time to practice, lazy bums | ||
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
On September 29 2004 03:33 ret wrote: it will all depend on who gets the best brackets...and has a little bit of luck...then there are about 5~8 people who could win the whole thing maybe Who are u thinking about. Xellos, Midas, Foru.. and what five else? | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
I predict I will cause one or several upsets, either through beating someone considered better than me or losing against someone considered worse. the beauty of random | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
On September 29 2004 04:48 LogaiN wrote: Who are u thinking about. Xellos, Midas, Foru.. and what five else? trek, pj, mondragon, froz , elky .... and some other good ppl could go far like fisheye, giyom, nazgul, hellghost ... etc. | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
On September 29 2004 05:08 ret wrote: if they can actually manage to get visas, that is.........come to think of it WCG is really packed this year. Basically every single good player in the world is gonna be there I think... ;D | ||
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
On September 29 2004 05:56 Elsi wrote: When is the draw taking place then? this afternoon 14:00 - 17:00 pacific time GMT +9 i think | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36387 Posts
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IcedEarth
United States3661 Posts
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SoL.Origin
Argentina2400 Posts
On September 29 2004 06:06 Levu wrote: this afternoon 14:00 - 17:00 pacific time GMT +9 i think "When: September 29, 2004(Wed.) 14:00~17:00(US Pacific Time GMT-8:00)" | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On September 29 2004 05:05 Liquid`Drone wrote: evilteletubby, grot got it right, it's a pet name. I predict I will cause one or several upsets, either through beating someone considered better than me or losing against someone considered worse. the beauty of random Ah, I see. Anyhow, I'm cheering for you! Second only to Froz of course, country loyalty first and all, you know. | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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FY-Forever
China346 Posts
On September 29 2004 07:08 Hot_Bid wrote: pj better show up, he can't beat both Blackman and Mondi in NWs then not go to WCG the fact is maybe he'll faill with his visa only cos go to SF for China i think | ||
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
Gogo Froz!!! 1. Froz 2. Some Korean 3. Some Korean. | ||
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Remmus(Cfr
Russian Federation207 Posts
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
I was also impressed by Mondragon's performance in ger-quali ... but not that much by the fact that he beat FisheYe 4:0 because fisheye is as wicked to hide his real skill and then unleashing it in SF ... you'll see. No, I was more impressed by mondragon because of games like the one vs. iv.storMy which really showed some excellent zvp play. Hope that he places top3 ... | ||
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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AgonyRush
United States2540 Posts
On September 29 2004 07:37 EvilTeletubby wrote: Ah, I see. Anyhow, I'm cheering for you! Second only to Froz of course, country loyalty first and all, you know. what about Day and Artosis?:O | ||
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AgonyRush
United States2540 Posts
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
the whole procedure is planned to take 3 hours no idea when BW is | ||
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orzhady
Sweden180 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
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GanjaSmuggler
Mexico26 Posts
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GanjaSmuggler
Mexico26 Posts
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GanjaSmuggler
Mexico26 Posts
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
Day is good but the US isn't known for Zerg :-P Artosis hopefully he'll pull some nice TvP (gogo rape ForU) | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
Both great players, and of course I'd like to see any of them go far, but I just realistically think Froz has the best chance. I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong though. | ||
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Geptus
Canada203 Posts
Giyom is there (yay!) Bulgaria #3 (Lamer-Fly) is not there Mexico #3 (LG)Stym) is not there Mongolia #1 and #2 (pro.forever and the other guy) are not there PJ and WYW (I beleive) are not there | ||
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PeruHOpe
Peru92 Posts
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
1st player goes to group L who is this btw? | ||
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
is hellghost the brazilian in their group? | ||
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Ub3rNoOb3r
Canada209 Posts
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
hellghost is in the same group as one german, but dunno who he is, either gum or mondi drone is also in that group | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
mindcontrol go | ||
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[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
me + mondi same igor + eriador same giyom + leg same | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
and all the other slots are yet to be filled -_-; | ||
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[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
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vOnster
United States201 Posts
On September 29 2004 14:20 [vital]Myth wrote: Ack! Are they posted? I clicked on the news article link for group draw, but I don't see the actual group draw, just the notice. me 2 :o | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
look at testie's group, weak sauce. | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
elky + nazgul + froz : (( | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
Mondi Trek Veg Manza also hard to go i think | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
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Ub3rNoOb3r
Canada209 Posts
Koreans have free rides to round of 32 | ||
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NerO
United States2071 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
Yeah there's definitely some group of deaths, and some very easy groups. Testie does seem to have it easy. For the USA players, Artosis seems to have gotten the best grouping. I doubt Day will make it, with both Eriador and HellGhost there, but who knows, if those two aren't in great shape and Day is, or if Day plays his best he might. FroZ does seem to have the hardest, but I think he can make it. Not sure who the Spanish player in Veg's group is, but that looks like a hard group to predict, as well as Leg's group and the group with Froz. It seems the groups are either very stacked, or not stacked at all. But it would help if we had a list of aka's. I'm very fluent with player real-names to aliases, but I can't place all of these. | ||
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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PeruHOpe
Peru92 Posts
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WickeD
Slovakia789 Posts
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
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Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
Zygmunt Tarantowicz - zG.nOradIV aka KazioWichura Tomek Krzesinski - ToT)tomsOn( Christopher Nalepka - Nal_Draco | ||
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
P: Veg + Mondi + Trek + Manza (absolute group of death E: Drone + Hellghost + Day + that german fellow hardest groups it seems | ||
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
mondragon = LEVU?? i never knew he posted on tl.net fuck my group is pretty hard wish i had foru instead of trek T_T trek knows all my builds | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
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LogaiN
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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PeruHOpe
Peru92 Posts
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
On September 29 2004 14:39 Veg wrote: SHIT mondragon = LEVU?? i never knew he posted on tl.net fuck my group is pretty hard wish i had foru instead of trek T_T trek knows all my builds huh? levu ain't mondragon. | ||
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
On September 29 2004 14:48 ret wrote: sugosu is with draco.......Blast...and some other guy :D Thanx | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
I was kind of wondering why he said that too. Not that I know anything about the matter, I just couldn't see anything to conclude that. | ||
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
wondering why veg thought that because i said that group P was "hard to go" ? | ||
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zir_green
291 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Rob Verspui Dan Stemkoski ? | ||
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:03 mdb wrote: Who are : Rob Verspui Dan Stemkoski ? Rob is Strafe (I think) and Dan is Artosis | ||
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
mybad levu i was reading too fast thought i saw u type : "MY GROUP:" lol | ||
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
then again the other three guys are probably equally unhappy about it. group p is worse though, at least that's something. the one with leg, grrr, russian fellow and brazil #2 is also hard. | ||
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[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:04 NoSteratu wrote: http://www.worldcybergames.com/groupdrawing_html/2004_cs.asp?itemno=240 Thanks. But the groups are all empty for me -.-a... | ||
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
then again, i clicked on the wc3 brackets, and they aren't moving at all..I guess they haven't decided them, or there's a bug | ||
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Pumpkin
United States1141 Posts
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[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:13 [vital]Myth wrote: Thanks. But the groups are all empty for me -.-a... ur welcome On September 29 2004 15:14 hasuwar wrote: You might have javascript turned off..the page does some ridiculously slow and boring little group animation shit to put the player's names into the groups then again, i clicked on the wc3 brackets, and they aren't moving at all..I guess they haven't decided them, or there's a bug Yes, wait a little its slow and players names goes into groups like never ends | ||
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radiaL
Andorra2690 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:18 [vital]Myth wrote: Oh...yeah my Javascript reader in Firefox is having an error with a divMenu. same iE works though | ||
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[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
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Capn
United States539 Posts
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
and the wc3 brackets havent been drawed, they are the last on the list the german in group E is Methos[pG] aka gum aka Germanstar | ||
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Chibi[OWNS]
United Kingdom10597 Posts
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Chibi[OWNS]
United Kingdom10597 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
CAN SOMEONE COPY PASTE THE GROUPS AND POST THEM SOMEWHERE ON A BROOD WAR SITE FOR EASY READING? THX ps: dont ask me to do it, i deleted rundll remember? <^> | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:26 Slaughter)BiO wrote: I thought androide couldnt make it? ;x Does he get his visa? | ||
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
almost done, just missing the not so well known people | ||
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WickeD
Slovakia789 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:36 WickeD wrote: In the group with Midas Alfa and Advocate, the third guy is... ehm .... me... WickeD[SGA]. T_T | ||
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[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
EDIT: oops...Germans A: Fisheye B: twisted C: midas D: artosis? E: day[9] <3 F: the polish player G: xellos H: no clue...rooting for Giyom I: clawson J: foru K: froz L: testie M: the spanish guy N: the polish guy O: the chinese guy P: Mondi! <3 | ||
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WickeD
Slovakia789 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:38 WickeD wrote: Yep, but hell, I get to play Midas ^^. Wish me luck !! I'd think it would be an honor to get thrashed around by a progamer, good luck anyhow. | ||
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:34 Levu wrote: i am about to do it right now almost done, just missing the not so well known people waiting ;P | ||
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
as am i no pressure tho and thx for doing it | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
btw it's fisheye in group a, not hexer. i guess he makes up for the groups of the other two. T_T | ||
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WickeD
Slovakia789 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
twisted and testie got nice groups, should be able to make it through. kinda have to root for trek in the worst group i guess | ||
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
link : http://www.gamingeye.com/pc/strategi/starcraft/nyheter/nyhet.eye?id=46504 the site is in swedish...but the groups and names are readable even for monkeys. HF | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:52 WickeD wrote: Does anybody know whether there will be any side-tournaments going on, like 2v2 nation cup or something ? well i guess the usual 2v2 nations cup again. looking forward to see those two philipine mendoza guys play 2on2. maybe they can continue what the guys from kazakhstan did over the last years. | ||
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Deleted User 2920
225 Posts
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Fernando Hierro
Spain316 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:18 [vital]Myth wrote: Oh...yeah my Javascript reader in Firefox is having an error with a divMenu. i can't see the groups with my firefox either t.t fuck i can't even watch the 3d stuff of APM and such on wgtour reps or dl the reps any help? (sorry out of topic) maybe someone can post everyone with their nicknames or something. thx | ||
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:56 TreK[cF] wrote: my friend xodiac and I worked a little in finding akas for all link : http://www.gamingeye.com/pc/strategi/starcraft/nyheter/nyhet.eye?id=46504 the site is in swedish...but the groups and names are readable even for monkeys. HF thanx | ||
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NoSteratu
Turkey770 Posts
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KhresT
Brazil187 Posts
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Fernando Hierro
Spain316 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
and 12345testie, twisted, zelotito, fisheye and the koreans look like they will go through without too many problems. groups P, K, H and E looks like the worst ones | ||
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NerO
United States2071 Posts
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
E is the hardest. | ||
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
look on the bright side, you avoided the koreans edit: fisheye has the best last name ever btw | ||
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OgerDaniel
273 Posts
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HorsementalitY
United States1159 Posts
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Taguchi
Greece1575 Posts
group E is so balanced and only 2/3 from froz elky nazgul and grrrr leg androide damn:/ | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
On September 29 2004 16:03 Fernando Hierro wrote: oh and btw, suker will most likely play for alfa, alfa will let him play on his spot and will only play in the 2v2 tournament (this isn't very clear yet, but that's what they intend to do). wtf are they crazy? first they try to cheat themselves through and after it didn't work out they make up new rules or what? since when is it possible to share a spot between nations cup and 1:1? the last thing i heard was that alfa was allowed to play but he can't concede his spot to suker at all. this new solution would be ridiculous. they should both get instantly banned. On September 29 2004 16:16 OgerDaniel wrote: lol, fisheye has such a good brood war karma, it's unbelievable. i guess it wasn't [pG] this time tho T_T | ||
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
On September 29 2004 16:24 Pacifist wrote: that spanish protoss guy.. whos zealotito? | ||
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juSblazin
United States691 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On September 29 2004 16:24 Pacifist wrote: whos zealotito? look for the spaniard that has it the easiest. im assuming its eduardo Garcia Castello from Group M. Being that the other spaniards have Veg, Trek, Mondi, and a Korean to worry about. | ||
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raidern_br
Brazil612 Posts
hg group is very equal to imo | ||
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
On September 29 2004 14:26 Levu wrote: group P is: Mondi Trek Veg Manza also hard to go i think Trek and Mondi > Veg and Manza every day | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On September 29 2004 16:37 Dealer wrote: Trek and Mondi > Veg and Manza every day  i bet that guy Portia in group P will be nervous as hell. | ||
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GG-Mazor
Sweden330 Posts
http://www.starcraftgamers.com/nyheter.php?i=n&id=1493 | ||
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
On September 29 2004 16:37 Dealer wrote: Trek and Mondi > Veg and Manza every day ah...yes....let the motivation pour into my veins i thank you in advance dealer~ | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On September 29 2004 16:22 Asta wrote: wtf are they crazy? first they try to cheat themselves through and after it didn't work out they make up new rules or what? since when is it possible to share a spot between nations cup and 1:1? the last thing i heard was that alfa was allowed to play but he can't concede his spot to suker at all. this new solution would be ridiculous. they should both get instantly banned. i guess it wasn't [pG] this time tho T_T Whats this about cheating in spain wcg? | ||
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
On September 29 2004 16:47 Veg wrote: ah...yes....let the motivation pour into my veins i thank you in advance dealer~ Well i think they are above your league, but i wouldn't really care if you proved me wrong I'm 100% sure that both of those players will beat you more than 50%, but in a best of one thinks could happen. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On September 29 2004 16:17 HorsementalitY wrote: androide is gonna own group h if he can go You dont seriously think he will get past both Leg and Grrr do you? | ||
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EvanSlayer
Brazil228 Posts
On September 29 2004 17:02 Brett wrote: You dont seriously think he will get past both Leg and Grrr do you? u are forgetting about master... this kind of underestimation will cause some really big upsets... | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On September 29 2004 17:04 EvanSlayer wrote: u are forgetting about master... this kind of underestimation will cause some really big upsets... Who the hell is master? | ||
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
On September 29 2004 17:02 Brett wrote: You dont seriously think he will get past both Leg and Grrr do you? You seriously think that Grrr would stop Androide? | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
(actually a honest question, cause i dunno) | ||
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
Are you thinking about visa problems or anything else Naz? | ||
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On September 29 2004 17:08 Dealer wrote: You seriously think that Grrr would stop Androide? At that stage I thought it might only be 1 person per group advancing, so no I wouldnt have expected androide to progress further than those two. Grrr seems to perform well at WCG | ||
GTR
51507 Posts
Group B - Singapore player, Swiss player, ret aka erwin!, jorge mexican (blast?) Group C - roger granell (spain), Midas!!, Czech (jan ciffa?) dmitry demichev (russian) Group D - robert stelzer (austria), Beast, Rob Verspui (Netherlands) Artosis Group E - Eriador, hellghost, day[9], Dennis fleischman (germany) Group F - Romanian (george ciurescu), ruslan aliev (kaszshagstn), vasil parushev (bulgarian) Tomson Group G - YAN nekrasov? (Ukraine), Draco? (zygmunt, poland) Razor, XellOs!! Group H - CocoA (i think), Androide, Legionnaire, Other Brazillian, Giyom Group I - Clawson, Chineses Taipei dude, Darki? (Peru) and another kasghkanstan person. Group J - Czech (Marek Hradil), Croatian (Martin Sujak) fOru!! Rick Koevoets (Netherlands) Group K - FroZ, ElkY, Andres Herrada (Don't know flag -_-) Nazgul. Group L - Argentinian, S&M, Testie, and some czech person. Group M - Iranian, Azberkastan??, Eduardo (Spanish), Vassily (Kazshastan) Group N - Raymundo Ramirerz (mexico), SuGoSu, Chistopher (Poland), Jakub (Czech) Group O - Hungaraian, Qiang Lu (chinese), FooFighter dude, Adam (czech) vahtang (russia) Group P (Known as the group of death) - Mondragon, TreK, Veg, Phillipines, Manza. If anyone knows the unknown peoples names, tell me... thanx P.S - There's a better group writing here | ||
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On September 29 2004 17:31 GTR-2-Go_au wrote: ret aka erwin!, Twisted = ret??? Wow I did not know that.. T_T | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
twisted != ret gtr = dumb | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On September 29 2004 17:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: erwin = twisted twisted != ret gtr = dumb Ok, good... I thought I really missed something there. | ||
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fenixdown
Colombia320 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
To advance Group A Red = Advance, Green = Possible to advance Italics with red = maybe AutumnWillow Marvel Mendoza LG)Knif George Prado MAURO Mauro Castaneda Fisheye[pG] Fredrik Keite Group B ZerK Daniel Tay HQ-G.Why Baris Serbest iD.Twisted Erwin Bakker LG)Envy Jorge Hernandez Group C -=ALFA=- Roger Granell Midas[gm] Sang-Wook Jeon Wicked[SGA] Jan Cifra A2[S2] Dmitry Demichev Group D TiQ.Dany Robert Stelze 3wD.Christian Christian Drechsler ToT)Strafe( Rob Verspui Artosis Dan Stemkoski Group E Eriador[pG] Eivind Leknes HellGhost[pG] Igor Campolina SW)Day[9] Sean Plott iX.GuM Dennis Fleischmann Group F ShamanofDeath George Ciurescu siRuS Ruslan Aliev 3wD.EnJoY Vasil Parushev ToT)tomsOn( Tomek Krzesinski Group G Yan[S2] Yan Nekraso Kasio Zygmunt Tarantowicza Razor Cary Schultz Xellos[yG] Jihoon Seo Group H iD.CocoA Cesar H. Robles C. Androide[S2] Andrey Kukhianidze Legionnaire Peter Neate NothX-MasteR Marcio Planas Grrr... Guillaume Patry This group is a serious possibility for a tie breaker between Leg, Grr and Androide, but I'm giving more emphasis to And/Leg. Group I Clawson(TE) Matti Punkari SW)RRB Chia Cheng Yang LG)Darki Alfredo Zegarra Shweq Alexandr Dubikin Group J CDS)Crow Marek Hradil Skyr.Blizzy Martin Sujak forU JaeHoon Lee iD.Zymotic Rick Koevoets Clueless for this group. Group K FroZ Tom Whittier ElkY Grospellier Bertrand Punto.cL|Keir Andres Herrada Forestani Nazgul[pG] Victor Goossens I'm really expecting Naz/FroZ but Elky is always there so I guess this could be a tie. Group L SoL.Pato Patricio Borghi Vanilica Srdjan Petkovic rS.Testie Nick Perentesis CDS)Dark_Caleb David Kucera Group M CT.Phantom Pedram Bidhendi Maska Sardor Mirakhmedov SoL.Zelotito Eduardo Garcia Castello Shanhai Vassiliy Ulizko Wish I knew more about this group. Group N Ray Raymundo Ramirez SoGoSu Onat Gegeoglu Draco[pG] Christopher Nalepka CDS)Blooder Jakub Sedlacek Group O Gorky Gyorgy Zentai Linyu)Pj Qiang Liu JohnRambo James Ming Keet Foo nEph.Destroyer Adam Kroupa RiF)ex Vakhtang Zakiev Group P ToT)Mondragon( Christoph Semke SW)TreK[cF] Fredrik Nelson VeG[pG] Alexandre Hulak Portia Marko Mendoza )ToT(Manza( Jose Maria Manzanares The reason three are in bold and Veg/Mond are in italics is I can't decide out of the two of them who will advance. I do know that Trek will advance :D. | ||
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squarein4
China199 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
I think TreK/VeG will make it, not Mondragon. Leg/Androide. Dunno about Eriador/HG/Day. | ||
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Pomozite
Croatia647 Posts
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Berg_zerg
Germany294 Posts
If it had been BO3 i think Mondragon would advance for sure. | ||
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
On September 29 2004 19:44 Berg_zerg wrote: Mondragon Trek and Veg are probably the same strength. Thats so damn hard to say who will advance from this group when its BO1. If it had been BO3 i think Mondragon would advance for sure. i think i would prob agree with you but again as always it comes down to the maps | ||
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B.GoD_AnGRY
Chile334 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Same group as Nazgul, Froz and Elky. T____T;; Last year he had MTY, Ogogo and Beast -.- He's cursed! EDIT: I think the chances of a non korean winning went down by a lot with these groups :O So many of the good ones will be eliminated :X | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
Stym is #2 in wcg mex and Envy #3, Envy is lited but Stym isnt O_oa wtf Mex was sending three where is stym | ||
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ChezGod
United States590 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
zymotic won't attend, because he didn't wanna pay for a ticket Rick Koevoets = Tuig | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
who the fuck are those guys in my group ;o | ||
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Cedric
Hungary186 Posts
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xG-BlizzY
Slovakia97 Posts
On September 29 2004 15:56 TreK[cF] wrote: my friend xodiac and I worked a little in finding akas for all link : http://www.gamingeye.com/pc/strategi/starcraft/nyheter/nyhet.eye?id=46504 the site is in swedish...but the groups and names are readable even for monkeys. HF In group J Marek Hradil isn't CDS)Crow but Destroyer | ||
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iD.Surv
Belgium827 Posts
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Twitt
United States733 Posts
On September 29 2004 21:54 iD.Twisted wrote: btw shit man, I got a hard group! who the fuck are those guys in my group ;o lol, your group is easy. -_-;; | ||
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Flytothesky
United States591 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
This is who I think it is right? I thought testie and Veg eliminated him. @_@ Does he get an auto-seeding for his fame? Or did he earn it some other way? | ||
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ChApFoU
France2983 Posts
On September 29 2004 17:08 Dealer wrote: You seriously think that Grrr would stop Androide? of course, who do you think androide is ? Boxer ? ^^ | ||
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Ready2[ESC]
Hungary1436 Posts
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Aqeloutro
Spain614 Posts
 But he beat Suker 2-0 so he's got a chance. Go Manzanares! xD | ||
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
On September 29 2004 23:04 ManaBlue wrote: "Guillaume Patry" This is who I think it is right? I thought testie and Veg eliminated him. @_@ Does he get an auto-seeding for his fame? Or did he earn it some other way? basically he got auto-seeding for his fame | ||
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SoL.Origin
Argentina2400 Posts
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JudasT
Spain2226 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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MadneZz
Sweden234 Posts
I mean, if your gonna win this thing, you have to play the best players anyway, so why dont start out with some hard practice =) | ||
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Manza
Spain16 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 30 2004 02:09 MadneZz wrote: I dont think it matters if your in a hard group or not, I mean, if your gonna win this thing, you have to play the best players anyway, so why dont start out with some hard practice =) It matters a lot to the players-.- You get money if you get top 16 I think ;D | ||
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karelen
Sweden2407 Posts
On September 30 2004 02:37 Manza wrote: Mmm. My group rocks ^^. Fucking good luck. Anyway it is better 4 me to play without pressure, and in BO1 everything can happen. Gl all and c u next week haha, thats the spirit With that cool comment it became even harder to choose who will be runner up in the group after trek ^^ | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On September 30 2004 02:09 MadneZz wrote: I dont think it matters if your in a hard group or not, I mean, if your gonna win this thing, you have to play the best players anyway, so why dont start out with some hard practice =) wrong no. | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
Trek was less lucky tho. | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4171 Posts
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
Chapfou: No i don't think Androide is Boxer, but Grrrr isn't exactly Nal_rA these days either. Edit: Of course the draw matters a lot, easy draw = free ride to best of 3, anything could happen in bo1. | ||
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
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InsanitY
Germany352 Posts
. leg & grrr in one group will be fun to watch. and gl nazgul in group K ..... | ||
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Sadness
Brazil552 Posts
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On September 30 2004 05:45 Ghardo wrote: Just for your info ... ix.Gum is the brother of the bw-player known as Kosh[pG] who is considered one of germany's best players evah. That doesn't make Gum a good player, right? :S | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
I have the right to flame you hardcore Amerigerman~~ but I won't since you're cute =] | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
On September 30 2004 05:50 Schnake wrote: That doesn't make Gum a good player, right? :S it doesnt but top 3 germany does. | ||
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Destroyer
Czech Republic937 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On September 30 2004 04:16 mAKiTO wrote: dang that sucks for keir Poor Keir indeed. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On September 30 2004 08:27 Destroyer wrote: wtf is Tuig ? Tuig = dutch for Scum. | ||
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Random()
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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Levu
Germany675 Posts
i like his style - lets see if he can whip some ass | ||
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readY_bg
Bulgaria168 Posts
B-Twisted and Envy C-Middas and ALFA D-Christian and Strafe E-here if anybody have idea pls msg me F-Enjoy and Tomson G-Xellos and Yan or kazio H-Grrr and andrioide or legionaire I-Clawson and RRB J-foru and destroyer K-Froz and ? L-Testie and pato M-Zelotito and Shanhai N-draco and ? O-Ex and Cou P-Mondragon and ? this is very hard group like E but I realy hope mondi will make it | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
I sure hope they'll turn out te be nice brackets, and liquibet for the groups seem nice too ? | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
Them being seperated from the kick ass foreigners makes for a better top 32 tourny ^^ Personally I wanna see who will win in Grrr/Leg's group | ||
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juSblazin
United States691 Posts
A: FisheYe[pG] B: iD.Twisted C: Midas[gm] D: Strafe or Artosis E: Hard to decide. I want Day to win!!!!! But..... I think Eri will take it. F: ToT)Tomson( G: Xellos[yG] H: Legionnaire I: Clawson J: fOrU K: Hard to decide, Elky/FroZ/Nazgul all good. I want FroZ to win but we havent seen Nazgul game in a while --. L: rS.Testie M: Zelotito N: I want Sugosu, but Draco good too. O: Cos P: Again hard to decide. Mondi/Trek/Veg/Manza all good. I think ill leave this one alone. I have a feeling this is gonna be the best WCG Finals ever. (This is the only one ive actually followed -- | ||
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
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FeaReD)
Canada59 Posts
and testie and grrr Fisheye got a very nice group eh? still shouldnt under estimate them | ||
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Berg_zerg
Germany294 Posts
(i am only a noob compared to you , so feel free to explain^^) ChowChow is imo only a sligt advantage for Z over T and P big map,many expos , many possibilites for using the fast zerg units Dahlia is only a slight advantage for Z over P and a slight advantage for T over Z vs T Z has a unlucky situation with eiter lacking gas when taking mineral only as expo or playing risky and taking the natural with gas. T has good posibilitys to use the power of sidged tanks and to be relativly save with the mineral only and the zerg is forced to make lots of lings. while Gorky is imo an advantage for P and T over Z casue sair are very effective on that map and T has turrets + upgraded goliaths but the advantages are not that big imo that a better player will loose against a worse player. I think i have to do some WCGprelim research how the MU statistics are. | ||
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
vs T Z has a unlucky situation with eiter lacking gas when taking mineral only as expo or playing risky and taking the natural with gas. T has good posibilitys to use the power of sidged tanks and to be relativly save with the mineral only and the zerg is forced to make lots of lings." Z>>>>>P dahlia Z>>T dahlia P>>>>>>>>>>T dahlia | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
First- Martian ,which is the most balanced map of the 4.It requires the protoss player to play quite different from usual to have a chance, getting another main fast and running away from the terran as much as possible, till he is able to amass.At least if he gets into late game he should be able to win. ZvP and TvZ look ok.TvZ may become quite hard with some bad luck ,though.(cross positions i consider bad luck )Kohral-TvP is insanely hard, because the protoss has so much cheeze its not funny at all.Example - Fisheye-Elky last year.PvZ is completely impossible.Dont let someone convince you in the opposite.Some stupid zergs dont get their mineral only right away and lose...ZvT is very hard, prolly unwinnable at high level,because of the tight middle mostly. Gorky - ZvP and ZvT and PvT are all pretty hard,playable but pretty hard. And finally - Dahlia! At first it looks like Zerg cant take his natural expo vs t.Wrong.The distance is very longer than LT.You cant rush him.The zerg is able to power hard early and the terran has some very big problems with getting his bases running - huge base ,very easy to drop;lurkers harass mineral only;the gas expo is veeery vulnarable.Still, the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg. TvP - Very hard.Incredibly hard!Distance is long, the gas expo is not available till you get like 10 tanks.The main is built in a way that its very hard to protect from cheeze, especially reaver drops.You have 3 obstacles to pass to get to the enemy base- your own cliff and 2 sets of bridges.It is incredibly hard to stay in the game.Still, if the terran plays perfect, I guess its playable. PvZ - Impossible.Zerg has + 6 minerals right away.Protoss has no way of defending his gas early and even his mineral only is very hard to defend from lurks.Once the protoss player slows down his zeal production ,the zerg is free to get his gas and do whatever he wants. | ||
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mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
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JudasT
Spain2226 Posts
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FroZZoR
China925 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On September 30 2004 23:53 mcmascote wrote: "the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg." lol If he play worse than the zerg, he will lose.. right? rofl He was referring to the fact that if they play at the same level, zerg has the advantage and will probably win, jackass. Manner up. | ||
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comabreaded
United States2166 Posts
On September 30 2004 23:53 mcmascote wrote: "the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg." lol If he play worse than the zerg, he will lose.. right? rofl dumb ass. he means terran cant play even as the zerg and win. he HAS to play better. | ||
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
On September 30 2004 23:53 mcmascote wrote: "the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg." lol If he play worse than the zerg, he will lose.. right? rofl Usually at this level ,the players play about equal. Ah,I see it was already answered. | ||
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ChApFoU
France2983 Posts
On September 30 2004 05:00 Dealer wrote: Xellos group wasn't that bad, everyone that qualifies from Poland must be quite good Chapfou: No i don't think Androide is Boxer, but Grrrr isn't exactly Nal_rA these days either. Edit: Of course the draw matters a lot, easy draw = free ride to best of 3, anything could happen in bo1. yeah yeah agreed but what i mean is that Grrr 's chances to advance are at least equal to Androide's, after all he's won the bronze last year beating control .. | ||
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Twitt
United States733 Posts
On September 30 2004 07:13 iD.Twisted wrote: I have the right to flame you hardcore Amerigerman~~ but I won't since you're cute =] Twas all in jest good friend, and are you hitting on me? o.O;;; | ||
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Berg_zerg
Germany294 Posts
this sounds all very convincing except the TvsZ on dahlia. what i saw from the WCG prelim replays and what my personal( little) experience is is that TvsZ on dahlia is very ballanced. the games Froz and day ( TvsZ ) played on dahlia have been very even. Nada > Junwi on Dahlia ( TvsZ ) and i think i have at least seen 10+ TvsZ WCG prelim matches on dahlia which have been very even games. nevertheless i am wondering why WCG the queen of all BW toruneys is played this shitty way. BO1 and imba maps and no Looserbracket in the final round. this is like a soccer WM with rules like : Game lasts only 45 minutes, maps are "frozen dirt" and "hot sand" ( which will lead to big imba considering the different climate situation in different countries) and if a team is 0-1 behind game ist automatically over no matter if the goal was in the 3rd minute and the opposite team had a good chance to score 1-1 in the lasting 42 minutes. this totally sucks | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
A: 1.- Fisheye 2.- Kniff B: 1.-Twisted 2.- Envy C: 1.-Midas 2.-Alfa D: 1.-Artosis 2.-Strafe E: 1.-Eriador 2.-Hellghost F: 1.-Tomson 2.-Enjoy G: 1.-Xellos 2.-Kazio H.- 1.-Legionnaire 2.-Androide I.- 1.-Clawson 2.-Darki J.- 1.-Foru 2.-Destroyer K.- 1.-Froz 2.- Elky L.- 1.-Testie 2.- Caleb M.- 1.-Zealotito 2.-Shanhai N.- 1.-Draco 2.-Ray (aka Lg)Blast) O.- 1.-Cou 2.-Ex P.- 1.-Mondragon 2.-Trek | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
Only a NaDa style trampling force would work but theres no freaking gas enough for the tanks, i think Terran's best bet is to go 2 drops with 4 tanks and lots of vults harassing the shit out of the P, if he slows him down enough just trample nada style, god you cant even make a bamboo, with so many obstacles ranged goons will own it before you can do anything. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands3991 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 30 2004 17:18 Beast_Bg wrote: I'll try to explain it. First- Martian ,which is the most balanced map of the 4.It requires the protoss player to play quite different from usual to have a chance, getting another main fast and running away from the terran as much as possible, till he is able to amass.At least if he gets into late game he should be able to win. ZvP and TvZ look ok.TvZ may become quite hard with some bad luck ,though.(cross positions i consider bad luck )Kohral-TvP is insanely hard, because the protoss has so much cheeze its not funny at all.Example - Fisheye-Elky last year.PvZ is completely impossible.Dont let someone convince you in the opposite.Some stupid zergs dont get their mineral only right away and lose...ZvT is very hard, prolly unwinnable at high level,because of the tight middle mostly. Gorky - ZvP and ZvT and PvT are all pretty hard,playable but pretty hard. And finally - Dahlia! At first it looks like Zerg cant take his natural expo vs t.Wrong.The distance is very longer than LT.You cant rush him.The zerg is able to power hard early and the terran has some very big problems with getting his bases running - huge base ,very easy to drop;lurkers harass mineral only;the gas expo is veeery vulnarable.Still, the terran can win, but he has to play better than the zerg. TvP - Very hard.Incredibly hard!Distance is long, the gas expo is not available till you get like 10 tanks.The main is built in a way that its very hard to protect from cheeze, especially reaver drops.You have 3 obstacles to pass to get to the enemy base- your own cliff and 2 sets of bridges.It is incredibly hard to stay in the game.Still, if the terran plays perfect, I guess its playable. PvZ - Impossible.Zerg has + 6 minerals right away.Protoss has no way of defending his gas early and even his mineral only is very hard to defend from lurks.Once the protoss player slows down his zeal production ,the zerg is free to get his gas and do whatever he wants. PvZ on Korhal isn't completely impossible -.- It is hard, I grant you that but it is better than for example bifrost :O And on dahlia you say that zerg can get their gas nat right away, right? (Just checking, not sure what you meant with nat) I agree with that ~_~ | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On October 01 2004 04:55 aseq wrote: pity there are no nicks and picture in that group thing, i only know about half of the player by realname, and looking at the nerd pics is fun. Are you inclining that you aren't a complete fat nerd? | ||
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Taguchi
Greece1575 Posts
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readY_bg
Bulgaria168 Posts
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GanjaSmuggler
Mexico26 Posts
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Twitt
United States733 Posts
I don't think I would call gum top 3 germany though. ;( | ||
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PeruHOpe
Peru92 Posts
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Ub3rNoOb3r
Canada209 Posts
On October 01 2004 10:50 Twitt wrote: I don't think I would call gum top 3 germany though. ;( well, he did finish 3rd @ Germany WCG, so it's safe to say he's not horrible. | ||
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Twitt
United States733 Posts
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GanjaSmuggler
Mexico26 Posts
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