Pride of War: Terran (10) #1 Seed Flash -- Lee Young Ho #3 Seed Fantasy -- Jung Myung Hoon #4 Seed Light -- Lee Jae Ho #5 Seed Sea -- Yum Bo Sung #8 Seed fOrGG -- Park Ji Soo Classic -- Kim Doh Woo Leta -- Shin Sang Moon Midas -- Jun Sang Wook Really -- Park Sang Woo Ssak -- Choi Ho Seon
Overcome All: Zerg (13) #2 Seed Jaedong -- Lee Jae Dong #7 Seed Calm -- Kim Yoon Hwan Action -- Kim Seong Dae great -- Cha Myung Hwan HoGiL -- Kim Sang Wook Hydra -- Shin Dong Won Killer -- Park Joon Oh MIsO -- Han Doo Yeol Neo.G_Soulkey -- Kim Min Chul RorO -- Shin No Yeol s2 -- Lee Seung Suk Shine -- Lee Young Han ZerO -- Kim Myung Woon
Victory After Victory: Protoss (9) #6 Seed Kal -- Kim Ku Hyun Bisu -- Kim Taek Yong free -- Yoon Yong Tae Jaehoon -- Kim Jae Hoon PerfectMan -- Kim Tae Gyoon Stats -- Kim Dae Yeob Stork -- Song Byung Goo Snow -- Jang Yoon Chul sHy -- Kim Yoo Jin
Once again we return to a group stage for the round of thirty-two. Each group consists of four players; the group selection event determines their placement in each group. Each group must go through a double elimination format to determine which players will advance and which players are eliminated. If a player can get two wins before he gets two losses, then he advances to the next round. If he can’t, then he is eliminated. Two players from each group of four will have the chance to continue to fight for this season’s title.
Group A: (12/16 17:00 KST) Ssak 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16 Classic 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16 MisO 1-2 Eliminated Flash 0-2 Eliminated
Group F: (12/30 17:00 KST) Due to fOrGG's sudden retirement his matches are to be forfeit. HoGiL 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16 Midas 1-1 ► Advances to Round of 16 PerfectMan 0-2 Eliminated fOrGGRetiredEliminated
With the group stages being done, players that have advanced continue on into the BoX format. For the Round of 16, matches are determined by the group advanced (A-H) from and the spot advanced in the group (1 or 2). The first seed of Group A plays the second seed of Group E, and the second seed of Group A plays the first seed of Group E. Likewise, the first seed of Group B plays the second seed of Group F, and so on so forth. All matches are to be played as a split Best of 3, with the first set played starting at 18:00 KST on January 6th/17:00 KST on January 8th and the other set[s] played one week later.
Match A: Calm 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 8 Ssak 1-2 Eliminated
The Round of 8 matchups are determined by organizing and reseeding the players that won in the Round of 16 based on their current KeSPA ranks. The highest ranking player plays the lowest ranking, second-highest play second-lowest, and so on and so forth. All matches are split Bo5s, with the first match being played on the 20th of January and the remaining sets played the week afterward.
Match A: Jaedong 3-2 ► Advances to Semifinals Snow 2-3 Eliminated
Alas, very few qualified protoss once more . It's probably because all the protoss talent(except Beesuit/Stork when they're good) fail to deliver 100% of the time that it truly matters.
SKT is doing very well in individual leagues, Fantasy, Ssak, Bisu, s2, and probably Hyuk for the MSL ro32. Afrotoss, Fantasy, Hyuk, and probably Bisu and Kwanro for the OSL ro16 ! We may have 5 SKT player in the ro16 !
BISU FIGHTING!!! (I noticed that Flash has a chance to tie Nada's 3 in a row MSL... I wish that Flash keeps his dominance, but I want Bisu to win this one )
On November 22 2010 17:53 dRaW wrote: 3 Protoss... Such a sad day
BISU FIGHTING!!! (I noticed that Flash has a chance to tie Nada's 3 in a row MSL... I wish that Flash keeps his dominance, but I want Bisu to win this one )
Perfectman, Stork, Jaehoon, Movie and Stats, have yet to qualify ! Hopefully that would make 4 more protoss. Don't forget we're talking about Jaehoon and Perfectman, probably the best two failtoss ! But Stork and Stats should make it !
Eek, the MSL is really trying the best to disprove the legend of the fall, aren't they? Then again, it only takes one to win it all. Hopefully Stork makes it into the Ro32 to join the other 3 dragons.
Well really I think more are going to end up qualifying... I can definitely see Stork, Stats, and Snow and Jaehoon and Perfectman and Movie all have decent chances to do so.
On November 20 2010 18:51 flamewheel wrote: Yeah yeah it's a bit early but I felt like taking this so nobody else could so I could be like Flash and have dual leagues yay.
PM RESPECT !!!! u may think he only has 34 % win rate but i can assure you as an oz fan 90 % of those 34% are from individual leagues so be afraid be very afraid !!
On November 27 2010 20:10 flamewheel wrote: He's actually... Hmm 38/63 come from individual leagues lol
well i wasnt checking the stats but it sure seems like he wins more in starleague and in all fairness he's still perfectman ... u can zealot timing push all in not too many times vs zergs before someone will nail u
On December 04 2010 07:14 Crisium wrote: Wow, the MSL is gonna end really late into 2011. This is technically the 3rd MSL of 2010, so I don't like seeing it go past January.
Nate MSL 2009 started on November 26th 2009 and ended on January 23 2010. So if this one starts in Mid December, it's gonna go to mid February.
On December 03 2010 14:15 infinitestory wrote: Strangely enough, race distribution seems to be way closer to balanced now than when the group stages started o___O
and if you take out the seeded players, more protoss actually ended up qualifying out off survivor than terran!
Can't wait for the group selection ceremony. Sea says he's prepared an awesome ceremony for this. He's enlisted the help of another progamer who will make a surprise appearance in it. He says it's going to be so shocking that the programme director and staff may even lose their jobs because of it. LOL
On December 04 2010 07:14 Crisium wrote: Wow, the MSL is gonna end really late into 2011. This is technically the 3rd MSL of 2010, so I don't like seeing it go past January.
Nate MSL 2009 started on November 26th 2009 and ended on January 23 2010. So if this one starts in Mid December, it's gonna go to mid February.
What is wrong with MSL ending in February?
Just seems hard to call it the 3rd MSL of 2010 when it goes well into the next year. I like dividing the MSL and OSL into the 3 per year that there are. Back in the day, the first MSL of the year ended in March. Now the last of the previous year is ending in February (probably) instead of November like it used to. Just messes with my bearings.
^ Tomorrow (thurs) 6pm KST. According to his Twitter, Sea will be playing the role of gang member Man Seok (Kim Hee Won) from the movie Ahjuhshi (Mister/The Man from Nowhere).
FMLE crashes me a lot. There's very little guarantee it stays up all night (p.s. someone bonjwa should help me fix that issue). I have a presentation in 5 1/2 hours, so good night.
On December 17 2010 08:30 amazingoopah wrote: I'm guessing Ssak got some chicken from Jaedong... this is Jaedong's to lose IMO (unless bonjwa Shine rises lol)
There's still Bisu, Stork, Light(I think) and Fantasy to challenge Jaedong. All of them have the skills to beat JD in a BoX.
On December 17 2010 08:30 amazingoopah wrote: I'm guessing Ssak got some chicken from Jaedong... this is Jaedong's to lose IMO (unless bonjwa Shine rises lol)
There's still Bisu, Stork, Light(I think) and Fantasy to challenge Jaedong. All of them have the skills to beat JD in a BoX.
fantasy and light got nothing on jaedong !!! bisu and stork is a different matter but if it comes to a bo5 i dont think jaedong can lose !! he never lost to anyone on that list of yours in a bo3 or 5
It's crazy how out of a group of Terran players that included Flash, Sea, Light, Fantasy and Leta the only qualifiers are Ssak, Classic and Midas... This has been an awful MSL for T so far.
On December 30 2010 22:06 Cade)Flayer wrote: It's crazy how out of a group of Terran players that included Flash, Sea, Light, Fantasy and Leta the only qualifiers are Ssak, Classic and Midas... This has been an awful MSL for T so far.
On December 30 2010 22:06 Cade)Flayer wrote: It's crazy how out of a group of Terran players that included Flash, Sea, Light, Fantasy and Leta the only qualifiers are Ssak, Classic and Midas... This has been an awful MSL for T so far.
This MSL is broken.
At least protoss have a good shot to take one or both leagues this time around. Logic can always return next season.
My brain explodes trying to think about who to root for. Stork is my favourite player forever and always, but he has the OSL too. Bisu is my second favourite, and to see him drop to a level as low as Flash and drop out in the Ro36 (32) and Ro16 would be a damn shame. Nothing in the BW universe would make me happier than Stork winning dual gold, but part of me would be saddened by Bisu's Flash-level performance. I would also be happy if Stork won OSL gold and Bisu won MSL as Stork losing in the Ro16 would be made up by his championship. But dual golds the sooner the better for Dino toss because he isn't getting any younger and now is a good as any time to reach the bonjwa status he deserves. But poor Bisu if he loses in the Ro16. Plus if Stork wins, then the semi-finals would be Stork-Jaedong en route to a Stork-Kal final. I'd rather see Kal-Jaedong semi-final en route to a Bisu-Jaedong final.
Anyone else see the dilemma? Who do I root for? Ahh!
On January 04 2011 16:27 eviltomahawk wrote: Will Bisu's fangirls be passionate enough to fend off Stork's fanboys? It will all be revealed...
Most of them are one and the same. Quite a few people are split between the two. Though there are more Stork fans that don't like Bisu than Bisu fans that don't like Stork.
On January 04 2011 13:15 Crisium wrote: My brain explodes trying to think about who to root for. Stork is my favourite player forever and always, but he has the OSL too. Bisu is my second favourite, and to see him drop to a level as low as Flash and drop out in the Ro36 (32) and Ro16 would be a damn shame. Nothing in the BW universe would make me happier than Stork winning dual gold, but part of me would be saddened by Bisu's Flash-level performance. I would also be happy if Stork won OSL gold and Bisu won MSL as Stork losing in the Ro16 would be made up by his championship. But dual golds the sooner the better for Dino toss because he isn't getting any younger and now is a good as any time to reach the bonjwa status he deserves. But poor Bisu if he loses in the Ro16. Plus if Stork wins, then the semi-finals would be Stork-Jaedong en route to a Stork-Kal final. I'd rather see Kal-Jaedong semi-final en route to a Bisu-Jaedong final.
Anyone else see the dilemma? Who do I root for? Ahh!
On January 04 2011 06:01 Crisium wrote: If things go right, potential Kespa ranking matchups for the Ro4:
Jaedong vs Kal (again) Bisu vs Calm
If Stork defeats Bisu then he will play Jaedong in the Ro4 if Kal survives that long.
That's wrong. Only way for Stork/Bisu/Kal to play JD, is the final. Kal and Stork/Bisu will meet in semis, assuming that JD won't lose to Midas (and that they won't lose earlier obviously).
On January 04 2011 14:05 Kenpachi wrote: are there really only 3 Terrans? None of which can be finalists imo. Finals can only be ZvZ or ZvP at this point.
If someone came up to me a few weeks ago and told me to bet 1 dollar for 1000 that ssak would be the last terran player, I probably wouldnt have done it...and now hes the closest left. Hopefully we dont see ZvZ finals as I would rather have an epic ZvP (my favorite m/u)
Ssak will be a hero when he makes it to RO8 as the only Terran. This is the first time the top Terran isn't Flash since Avalon MSL with Iris in the semis.
Just for "fun" i looked at January Kespa rankings and matched the brackets, assuming that no one comes from behind.
Jaedong v. Snow Kal v. Great Stork v. Zero Calm v. Hydra
Pretty darn nice. If Ssak Hogil or Soulkey win matches, then they are worse player by ranking and Jaedong plays them instead. Everyone else gets moved up and pairing change.
On January 14 2011 12:38 Lightwip wrote: Ssak-the terran hero? Probably not, but it would be funny if he gets to the Ro8 or semis.
The deeper Ssak goes, the higher Flash's blood pressure rises.
Even though Ssak is from SKT... I just find him too amusing to support. I mean, I'll cheer for him and all, but in the end, I'll be loling no matter what he does. Probably because I still can't believe that he made it into the Ro16. XD
On January 14 2011 09:19 Deletrious wrote: Just for "fun" i looked at January Kespa rankings and matched the brackets, assuming that no one comes from behind.
Jaedong v. Snow Kal v. Great Stork v. Zero Calm v. Hydra
Pretty darn nice. If Ssak Hogil or Soulkey win matches, then they are worse player by ranking and Jaedong plays them instead. Everyone else gets moved up and pairing change.
You said assuming no one comes from behind and you put Calm instead of Ssak? Wat?
But I have to admit, these match-ups (and Ssak instead of Calm) look very entertaining.
On January 14 2011 09:19 Deletrious wrote: Just for "fun" i looked at January Kespa rankings and matched the brackets, assuming that no one comes from behind.
Jaedong v. Snow Kal v. Great Stork v. Zero Calm v. Hydra
Pretty darn nice. If Ssak Hogil or Soulkey win matches, then they are worse player by ranking and Jaedong plays them instead. Everyone else gets moved up and pairing change.
You said assuming no one comes from behind and you put Calm instead of Ssak? Wat?
But I have to admit, these match-ups (and Ssak instead of Calm) look very entertaining.
Damn you're right, lol. My zerg bias was blinding me.
If Ssak wins:
Jaedong v. Ssak Kal v. Snow Stork v. Great Hydra v. Zero
High probability of JD > Snow IMO. Snow's PvZ has been sub-par, only really beating HoGiL since early/mid November of last year, whereas JD's ZvP has been absolutely stellar, only really losing to Stork, and the occasional Bisu/Kal, with all remaining matches being W's since February of 2010.
Obviously living in the past isn't going to determine the winner, but statistic-wise, JD is a heavy favorite to take Snow and advance to the Ro4. Plus, I believe JD will keep his promise he made to Fomos (And Shin-ae!) to impress his fans and not leave them disappointed from his sub-par performance in 2010.
Jaedong is definitely going to the semis, only miracle or him being really sloppy 3 times out of 5 can give Snow a chance to win
Calm has been outclassed by Fantasy, but his ZvZ should be able to pull him through. Although I must admit - Hydra has his chances.
Kal and great are both kings of otherworldly sloppiness at times, but I think experience is going to be the deciding factor here.
ZerO really needs to bring in all his cookiness to even think going through Stork. Birdtoss is in godly shape, he's peaking both vZ and overall. And that is Bo5 (right?), so he should be even more favorite.
Stork coming off of his fresh ace against MBC is going to only fortify his strength furthermore. Stork is playing absolutely spectacular- no doubt in my mind he is the best Protoss in progaming at the moment.
Stork is going to steamroll Zero almost as bad as Jaedong will steamroll Snow. Other than that, I hope for Calm and Kal - which would provide us with a Jaedong/Kal and a Calm/Stork ro4, am I right?
On January 17 2011 06:28 micromegas wrote: Stork is going to steamroll Zero almost as bad as Jaedong will steamroll Snow. Other than that, I hope for Calm and Kal - which would provide us with a Jaedong/Kal and a Calm/Stork ro4, am I right?
On January 17 2011 12:25 dybydx wrote: holy shit, no terran in the RO8, has this historically ever happened?
It's nothing rare, it happens whenever maps/metagame don't really favor terran, or any other race for that matter.
This is incorrect. Let me state this to set the record straight:
This is the only MSL Ro8 that has ever had 0 Terran players. It is unprecedented.
Last season had 0 Protoss in the Ro8, but this is the first without Terran. In addition, there is only one other MSL Ro8 without a Protoss: Trigem in 2003. Zerg have been in every Ro8.
How is that nothing rare? It's only the third time a race has had no representative in the MSL Ro8, and the first for Terran.
On January 17 2011 06:28 micromegas wrote: Stork is going to steamroll Zero almost as bad as Jaedong will steamroll Snow. Other than that, I hope for Calm and Kal - which would provide us with a Jaedong/Kal and a Calm/Stork ro4, am I right?
No, Jaedong faces the winner of Calm/Hydra.
Right, thanks. I suppose it won't affect the outcome, though.
On November 20 2010 18:51 flamewheel wrote: Yeah yeah it's a bit early but I felt like taking this so nobody else could so I could be like Flash and have dual leagues yay.
On January 16 2011 03:08 hacklebeast wrote: so, zero needs to beat sork, and then jaedong needs to lose to either calm, hydra, snow, or zero for zero to have a chance....
two miricals isn't that much, right?
LOL a little random, but were you drunk when you wrote this? It's not a insult =] It's just the first time I've seen you post without capitals + so many typos.
JD v Snow is likely to be a rollover, but I am a little worried about the (inevitable) J v Stork.
On January 20 2011 03:06 Deletrious wrote: I was worried finals might be a let down once Flash stumbled out of the MSL, but JD v. Stork finals would be epic given how good Stork has been.
Or Kal vs JD, where Kal will finally get his revenge for all those times JD knocked him out of tournaments.
On January 20 2011 03:06 Deletrious wrote: I was worried finals might be a let down once Flash stumbled out of the MSL, but JD v. Stork finals would be epic given how good Stork has been.
Or Kal vs JD, where Kal will finally get his revenge for all those times JD knocked him out of tournaments.
How many times did JD knock him out of tournaments. Off the top of my head, I think it was 4 MSLs that JD knocked him out of, as well as contributing to knocking out Kal in Ro16 of Batoo?
On January 20 2011 06:06 slappy wrote: I think there is only 3 people with winning records against JD: Stork - 14-12 Flash - 23-20 Bisu - 7-9 (wow they haven't played much)
On January 20 2011 06:06 slappy wrote: I think there is only 3 people with winning records against JD: Stork - 14-12 Flash - 23-20 Bisu - 7-9 (wow they haven't played much)
Might be a couple more somewhere, but yes, not too many players have winning records against him (though a handful are tied at head-to-heads).
wow casy!!! a lot of those are really really surprising, thanks for sharing still though, the point is that in a bo5 I don't see anyone besides stork or flash being able to beat him.
Backho undefeated against JD on official matches, I wonder how they both feel about that? lol
On January 20 2011 03:06 Deletrious wrote: I was worried finals might be a let down once Flash stumbled out of the MSL, but JD v. Stork finals would be epic given how good Stork has been.
Or Kal vs JD, where Kal will finally get his revenge for all those times JD knocked him out of tournaments.
Oh true, I just don't think Kal can come close to getting revenge, and I say that as someone who really likes Kal.
On January 20 2011 06:06 slappy wrote: I think there is only 3 people with winning records against JD: Stork - 14-12 Flash - 23-20 Bisu - 7-9 (wow they haven't played much)
Might be a couple more somewhere, but yes, not too many players have winning records against him (though a handful are tied at head-to-heads).
wow casy!!! a lot of those are really really surprising, thanks for sharing still though, the point is that in a bo5 I don't see anyone besides stork or flash being able to beat him.
Backho undefeated against JD on official matches, I wonder how they both feel about that? lol
almost the only thing going for him....he probably gets beat down everyday...
On January 20 2011 06:06 slappy wrote: I think there is only 3 people with winning records against JD: Stork - 14-12 Flash - 23-20 Bisu - 7-9 (wow they haven't played much)
Might be a couple more somewhere, but yes, not too many players have winning records against him (though a handful are tied at head-to-heads).
wow casy!!! a lot of those are really really surprising, thanks for sharing still though, the point is that in a bo5 I don't see anyone besides stork or flash being able to beat him.
Backho undefeated against JD on official matches, I wonder how they both feel about that? lol
almost the only thing going for him....he probably gets beat down everyday...
On January 20 2011 06:06 slappy wrote: I think there is only 3 people with winning records against JD: Stork - 14-12 Flash - 23-20 Bisu - 7-9 (wow they haven't played much)
Might be a couple more somewhere, but yes, not too many players have winning records against him (though a handful are tied at head-to-heads).
wow casy!!! a lot of those are really really surprising, thanks for sharing still though, the point is that in a bo5 I don't see anyone besides stork or flash being able to beat him.
Backho undefeated against JD on official matches, I wonder how they both feel about that? lol
almost the only thing going for him....he probably gets beat down everyday...
lol right, JD probly let him win out of pity
If I remember correctly, Jaedong lost to Backho building two gates in the middle of Andromeda that game.
Only Protoss and Zerg left in the MSL with JAEDONG in it. Jaedong has to grab the title here, he's the god of ZvP and ZvZ, with no terrans standing in his way especially flash.
On January 21 2011 00:17 Infested_Noodle wrote: Possible all zerg semifinals? The overmind would be pleased.
Everyone else would be sad.
I'd have no clue how to hype a zvz finals to be sure.
2 points: 1. in a bo7, its likely we'll at least have ONE hive tech game 2. it will be quick, so we go to bed earlier and get some more sleep :-)
that's the best I can do, you're the writer I'm sure you'll figure it out lol
SC1 series are always no longer than Bo5.
I enjoy ZvZ so I actually wouldn't mind an all-zerg semis, other than that it wouldn't really feel epic enough for the end of a starleague.
Also if there's a ZvZ final you should steal the banner used in the Avalon MSL finals thread.
EDIT: wait a second, if its JvZ it will probably end 3-0... nvm
See Jaedong vs Yellow. Also, if I'm not mistaken I think ZerO has taken more games from Jaedong than any other zerg, so he may stand a chance :u. His ZvZ has also significantly improved this season going from 16-16 last season to 9-4 so far, one of those wins being the ace match against JD. And don't forget ZerO all-killing Oz during the last stx masters :D *tries to generate hope for a ZerO gold where there is little hope to be found lawl*
So given JD's handful of hive tech ZvZs and ZerO's sh**load of them, we could possibly see a few in a JvZerO MSL final :3
Done with MSL. Unless ZvZ or JvZ goes into late game, this will be a quick MSL to wrap up. Hmm.. considering it's going to be the exact same match up for every game, they could try doing all the matches in one day. lol Throwing it out there. I may not be able to ensure who will take the MSL (Jaedong fighting!) but I can be 100% sure that a Zerg will win and that does not interest me at all. Now good day.
yeah z vs z doesn't sound interesting but you have the best zergs of the tournament playing these semifinals and I do believe jaedong vs hydra is the true final
On January 30 2011 04:12 astalkulo wrote: yeah z vs z doesn't sound interesting but you have the best zergs of the tournament playing these semifinals and I do believe jaedong vs hydra is the true final
Well, hopefully, we can get a Great vs JD finals. With Great's epic end game zvz's, we could hope for a good series at least.
Funny, I watched KaL 2:1 great and the two games KaL won there were pretty decisive wins... stopped watching thinking he had it, hahaha. Seems I was mistaken.
LOL. I haven't been following this MSL very much. In fact I was just waiting for it to reach the semis (good games incoming?) and then I just realized that both semis are ZvZs.
On February 01 2011 22:26 meegrean wrote: LOL. I haven't been following this MSL very much. In fact I was just waiting for it to reach the semis (good games incoming?) and then I just realized that both semis are ZvZs.
Screw the semis, watch the JD vs. Snow series. One of the best PvZ series ever.
Zero's facin' off with great. I hope hive tech will be reached some point in any of these games, other wise the this MSL semis won't be worth a watch >.>;;.
I definitely think that the semi finals will have better games than the finals will. Obviously Zero vs great has so much epic potential, but even on the other side, those two are probably the best straight-up ZvZers right now. In the next round Jaedong (or maybe hydra, but probably not) would be a fool to allow the game to get to hive, so it will be normal ZvZ against some one who is probably worse than Hydra.
GL Zero, show me something awesome! (and win, winning is good to )
On February 04 2011 18:52 _Quasar_ wrote: o shit i'm scared for jaedong he's probably got the toughest opponent he could get at 1/2 X_X
If being up against a zerg slightly worse than JD is a cause of concern, then he really is performing worse than he should. Oh well, I still believe in him. Fighting!
On February 04 2011 18:52 _Quasar_ wrote: o shit i'm scared for jaedong he's probably got the toughest opponent he could get at 1/2 X_X
If being up against a zerg slightly worse than JD is a cause of concern, then he really is performing worse than he should. Oh well, I still believe in him. Fighting!
ZvZ is always the worst match up to be confident in, cause it can turn into a BO loss X_x
Considering the fact that JD's ZvZ has pretty much the highest winrate of any player's match-up in the history of progaming (with a decent amount of games played) I think the ''luck'' and ''BO loss'' aspect of the match-up is generally overstated.
Agreed. JD's ZVZ is god-like. I mean, he had a tough OSL, but he's still number two. He's the best zerg. Easy as that. I dont see Hydra out-cheesing him because Jaedong adjusts great to these sort of things. I'm just depressed Kal is out of another starleague
On February 08 2011 02:19 Elroi wrote: lol.. the final will be a formality after Jaedong vs Hydra.
Again I'll bring up that ZerO has taken more games from Jaedong than any other zerg, and ZerO's zvz radically improving this season combined with ZerO going 2-1 against JD since the offseason/this season began.(One of those wins was part of ZerO's all-kill of Oz during the Stx masters). If ZerO advances over great, I'd say he has just as much of a chance in the finals as hydra does going into his semifinal with JD.
On February 08 2011 02:19 Elroi wrote: lol.. the final will be a formality after Jaedong vs Hydra.
Again I'll bring up that ZerO has taken more games from Jaedong than any other zerg, and ZerO's zvz radically improving this season combined with ZerO going 2-1 against JD since the offseason/this season began.(One of those wins was part of ZerO's all-kill of Oz during the Stx masters). If ZerO advances over great, I'd say he has just as much of a chance in the finals as hydra does going into his semifinal with JD.
by more games, you mean a 11-4 record while that is still good for a zerg, I wouldn't say that a percentage-wise comparison over both of their careers which is not very impressive (26.66%) is not as relevant as hydra's great form right now lulz
either way, hoping for some very good micro from all players :3
On February 08 2011 02:19 Elroi wrote: lol.. the final will be a formality after Jaedong vs Hydra.
Again I'll bring up that ZerO has taken more games from Jaedong than any other zerg, and ZerO's zvz radically improving this season combined with ZerO going 2-1 against JD since the offseason/this season began.(One of those wins was part of ZerO's all-kill of Oz during the Stx masters). If ZerO advances over great, I'd say he has just as much of a chance in the finals as hydra does going into his semifinal with JD.
by more games, you mean a 11-4 record while that is still good for a zerg, I wouldn't say that a percentage-wise comparison over both of their careers which is not very impressive (26.66%) is not as relevant as hydra's great form right now lulz
either way, hoping for some very good micro from all players :3
*11-5 if you include the game I mentioned during the stx masters (you have to choose any league when looking it up on the TLPD) , But I highlighted what's recent in that many of those losses were in the middle of ZerO's career when he was notoriously awful at ZvZ. I'll quote myself from the same post in saying "ZerO's zvz radically improved[ed] this season."
On February 08 2011 17:00 Uldridge wrote: I'm so ready for this. Ready to yell CHAOLING Ready to yell HATCHORIE Ready to yell JEE JAE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
On February 08 2011 17:00 Uldridge wrote: I'm so ready for this. Ready to yell CHAOLING Ready to yell HATCHORIE Ready to yell JEE JAE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
And deprived - why do they have to take a week off?! lol jk jk
Sadly, I'm actually nervous for Jaedong on this one. He just doesn't look confident recently, or energetic for that matter. Hopefully he recharged his batteries and is gonna come out with the heat!
don't worry JD fans, as far as i know or remember, there isn't a matchup with more than 50 games played where there is a winning percentage that can match JD's ZvZ
On February 09 2011 22:56 shucklesors wrote: don't worry JD fans, as far as i know or remember, there isn't a matchup with more than 50 games played where there is a winning percentage that can match JD's ZvZ
I know you're talking about their total record/win percentage, but I couldn't resist:
On February 09 2011 22:56 shucklesors wrote: don't worry JD fans, as far as i know or remember, there isn't a matchup with more than 50 games played where there is a winning percentage that can match JD's ZvZ
I know you're talking about their total record/win percentage, but I couldn't resist:
On February 09 2011 22:56 shucklesors wrote: don't worry JD fans, as far as i know or remember, there isn't a matchup with more than 50 games played where there is a winning percentage that can match JD's ZvZ
I know you're talking about their total record/win percentage, but I couldn't resist:
On February 09 2011 22:56 shucklesors wrote: don't worry JD fans, as far as i know or remember, there isn't a matchup with more than 50 games played where there is a winning percentage that can match JD's ZvZ
I know you're talking about their total record/win percentage, but I couldn't resist:
On February 09 2011 22:56 shucklesors wrote: don't worry JD fans, as far as i know or remember, there isn't a matchup with more than 50 games played where there is a winning percentage that can match JD's ZvZ
I know you're talking about their total record/win percentage, but I couldn't resist:
Defending Champion gets kicked out in Ro32 in two mirror matches
3 Time Champion gets kicked out in Ro16 in a mirror match; where his best MU is statistically most likely to occur; his opponent falls 0-3 the next round in the very matchup that the champion was good at
No Terrans in Ro8, and no Protoss by Semifinals
2 Time Champion gets a close shave in Ro8 and gets booted out in Semifinals
Defending Champion gets kicked out in Ro32 in two mirror matches
3 Time Champion gets kicked out in Ro16 in a mirror match; where his best MU is statistically most likely to occur; his opponent falls 0-3 the next round
No Terrans in Ro8, and no Protoss by Semifinals
2 Time Champion gets a close shave in Ro8 and gets booted out in Semifinals
2 First-Time finalists
Possibly the shortest MSL Finals
This season has been one of the most screwed up seasons ever, individual league wise. I'm not sure what to believe anymore in pro BW.
To be honest, great seems a lot more relaxed and confident. Hydra will be a favorite in the finals and he will feel the pressure to win. But that won't happen. Great will just play his game and abuse Hydra's disadvantages and his own strong sides (ling micro, mind games, possibility to go Hive and all other stuff).
Defending Champion gets kicked out in Ro32 in two mirror matches
3 Time Champion gets kicked out in Ro16 in a mirror match; where his best MU is statistically most likely to occur; his opponent falls 0-3 the next round
No Terrans in Ro8, and no Protoss by Semifinals
2 Time Champion gets a close shave in Ro8 and gets booted out in Semifinals
2 First-Time finalists
Possibly the shortest MSL Finals
This season has been one of the most screwed up seasons ever, individual league wise. I'm not sure what to believe anymore in pro BW.
Truly we can never tell until we are at the end of the road. I was rooting for Stork and Jaedong since Ro8 and.... what the heck happend? Hehe! At first I thought this was going to be the worst MSL yet but looking at the players who made it first time I should give a credit to them. Good job. This time, I want Hydra to win. You should win or else I'll "BEAT" you up. Haha!
I've dropped off of watching BW, and coming back to check on the finals I was surprised as hell to see who it was, and that hydra had beaten jaedong. It's also a refreshing sight to see zergs dominating after following SC2 for the last little while.
so, will there be more seasons of starleagues? qualifiers for OSL haven't started yet. usually, a week or 2 after the finals, qualifiers starts immediately. i wanna see more of the rising stars play.
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