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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
November 04 2010 11:07 GMT
#621
Bisu was trying to overwhelm Kal with a bigger army because Kal was so set on getting a third expansion, but Kal was ahead in the later battles because of better army composition (reavers + HTs) and Bisu couldn't beat Kal with his reavers + low-tech army.

Solid play by Kal and a great PvP series overall.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 11:08:11
November 04 2010 11:07 GMT
#622
That was Bisu's first loss this season?
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
November 04 2010 11:08 GMT
#623
Excuse me but what do the results of this wildcard tourney affect? Will we see players who lost today in future matches?
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
November 04 2010 11:08 GMT
#624
Bisu pleased his fans once again. Cause now we can see even more bisu games this season. :D
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
November 04 2010 11:09 GMT
#625
Is it Bo3 or Bo1 now?? i am confused
Bisu... ;-(
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 04 2010 11:09 GMT
#626
On November 04 2010 20:04 GeLaar wrote:
I don't understand why he insisted on playing without Templars. He also didn't harass at all.


Kal had the superior starting position by far.

After losing so many probes to Kal's brute force drops he decided to cut probes completely and all-in with pure gateway units. Almost worked...

Not so big a deal as far as Bisu is concerned though.
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Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
November 04 2010 11:09 GMT
#627
On November 04 2010 20:09 SkytoM wrote:
Is it Bo3 or Bo1 now?? i am confused

It was Bo3 and Kal won 2:1
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 11:10:45
November 04 2010 11:09 GMT
#628
On November 04 2010 20:07 Hyde wrote:
That was Bisu's first loss this season?


Losses, yep. Still a pretty good night for him with the PvZ ELO result.

Edit: Other than IEF ofc.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 04 2010 11:09 GMT
#629
On November 04 2010 20:08 Taosu wrote:
Excuse me but what do the results of this wildcard tourney affect? Will we see players who lost today in future matches?

yes we will
basically Kal, who won today's tournament, gets to skip a round in the coming MSL/survivor
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Archer_
Profile Joined December 2009
United States14 Posts
November 04 2010 11:09 GMT
#630
The Wildcard tourney is just to fill the spot that Effort left. One of the players will become a seed. Everyone is still in the tourney though.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 04 2010 11:11 GMT
#631
On November 04 2010 20:09 SkytoM wrote:
Is it Bo3 or Bo1 now?? i am confused

The initial games were Bo1. The finals were Bo3.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 04 2010 11:11 GMT
#632
On November 04 2010 20:07 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Grats to Kal.

He was the aggressor in that final set and Bisu was just playing too reactionary. I agree that he blundered by not playing with HTs - those storms in the last three battles really made the difference.


Bisu had no other choice but to be passive - map positions allowed Kal to drop and harass Bisu's main, while KTY hasnt got such an option because if he was to harass Kal in some way he had to go all the way around the map - stuff like that happened a lot on maps like Tau Cross in the past or Medusa lately. Thats why I would assume both players choose their scouting paths in the beginning, on 3 players maps is almost always like A>B>C>A positional wise for PvP
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purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
November 04 2010 11:19 GMT
#633
Kal played well and deserved that. Bisu seemed sloppy.

To bad because I think Bisu could do much more with that seed then Kal will. On the other hand Bisu is more likelly to pull off from a unseeded position then Kal is so maybe this is a good thing for the protoss :-)

On a side note. Lol at being warned for typing GG in this topic when the game was not over. There are so many things people are typing that can indicate that the game is over when its not, just like GG.

So if GG gives warn tl.net have alot of warning to do.

Its not like I sad, Bisu GGs. I just stated that this game is over for Bisu since Kal is so ahead.

But well well.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 04 2010 11:20 GMT
#634
On November 04 2010 20:11 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 20:07 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Grats to Kal.

He was the aggressor in that final set and Bisu was just playing too reactionary. I agree that he blundered by not playing with HTs - those storms in the last three battles really made the difference.


Bisu had no other choice but to be passive - map positions allowed Kal to drop and harass Bisu's main, while KTY hasnt got such an option because if he was to harass Kal in some way he had to go all the way around the map - stuff like that happened a lot on maps like Tau Cross in the past or Medusa lately. Thats why I would assume both players choose their scouting paths in the beginning, on 3 players maps is almost always like A>B>C>A positional wise for PvP

yep, yep - you would expect the map makers to learn...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
November 04 2010 11:21 GMT
#635
On November 04 2010 20:11 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 20:07 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Grats to Kal.

He was the aggressor in that final set and Bisu was just playing too reactionary. I agree that he blundered by not playing with HTs - those storms in the last three battles really made the difference.


Bisu had no other choice but to be passive - map positions allowed Kal to drop and harass Bisu's main, while KTY hasnt got such an option because if he was to harass Kal in some way he had to go all the way around the map - stuff like that happened a lot on maps like Tau Cross in the past or Medusa lately. Thats why I would assume both players choose their scouting paths in the beginning, on 3 players maps is almost always like A>B>C>A positional wise for PvP


Hmmm...interesting point disciple. Cheers for the explanation.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 04 2010 11:24 GMT
#636
On November 04 2010 20:20 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 20:11 disciple wrote:
On November 04 2010 20:07 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Grats to Kal.

He was the aggressor in that final set and Bisu was just playing too reactionary. I agree that he blundered by not playing with HTs - those storms in the last three battles really made the difference.


Bisu had no other choice but to be passive - map positions allowed Kal to drop and harass Bisu's main, while KTY hasnt got such an option because if he was to harass Kal in some way he had to go all the way around the map - stuff like that happened a lot on maps like Tau Cross in the past or Medusa lately. Thats why I would assume both players choose their scouting paths in the beginning, on 3 players maps is almost always like A>B>C>A positional wise for PvP

yep, yep - you would expect the map makers to learn...


3players maps are the best concept imo. just look at the stats on Tau Cross - the only real problem is the PvP
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
November 04 2010 11:39 GMT
#637
On November 04 2010 20:24 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 20:20 Zona wrote:
On November 04 2010 20:11 disciple wrote:
On November 04 2010 20:07 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Grats to Kal.

He was the aggressor in that final set and Bisu was just playing too reactionary. I agree that he blundered by not playing with HTs - those storms in the last three battles really made the difference.


Bisu had no other choice but to be passive - map positions allowed Kal to drop and harass Bisu's main, while KTY hasnt got such an option because if he was to harass Kal in some way he had to go all the way around the map - stuff like that happened a lot on maps like Tau Cross in the past or Medusa lately. Thats why I would assume both players choose their scouting paths in the beginning, on 3 players maps is almost always like A>B>C>A positional wise for PvP

yep, yep - you would expect the map makers to learn...


3players maps are the best concept imo. just look at the stats on Tau Cross - the only real problem is the PvP


Or they could just put all the main mineral lines sticking to the map border like on Longinus. Leaving a huge space in a base and not in the others doesn't make sense. I can't blame Kal for abusing it, but that's definitely what threw Bisu off this game.
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KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
November 04 2010 13:42 GMT
#638
No Kal just was the better player in the bo3, no offense to Bisu but Kal deserved despite the map advantage that he had.
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 04 2010 14:09 GMT
#639
Wow what a great series! Kal is amazing!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
November 04 2010 14:12 GMT
#640
Kal is so consistent
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