• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:59
CEST 08:59
KST 15:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview25Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates7GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Cheeseadelphia 2025 - Open Bracket LAN! $25,000+ WardiTV 2025 Series
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I made an ASL quiz [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 1
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 23356 users

[MSL] Grand Final - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 185 186 187 Next
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 09:10:49
August 27 2010 09:08 GMT
#41
On August 27 2010 17:58 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 17:51 blade55555 wrote:
On August 27 2010 17:43 Vivi57 wrote:
Honestly, this is entirely up to jd. If he tries to play a macro game, it will go 3-0 flash easily.

Otherwise, it's going to come down to flash's defense where he will hopefully be one level above jd in mind games and come out of the early game even in every game. Which would lead to 3-0 flash.


so good luck to jd's kwanro style aggression to try to take out our hero.


lol you underestimate Jaedong's macro so bad. And I would call flash the villain not the hero

Jaedong Fighting! Hope for some good games 3 epic games with Jaedong winning all 3 :D

JD lost to Flash in their recent macro game, and was unable to beat Light in a macro game either (both times). If JD takes this series, it will be either with lings/mutas, or by Flash fucking up a timing push and crippling into the midgame on 1-2 base to JD's 6.


I think JD COULD take a macro game against Flash. He should've won that WCG lategame given the advantage he had, but made several poor drops (on par with Leta's shitty drop), that allowed Flash to get a sizable tank force. The thing about lategame TvZ is it really is a battle of mechanics and the shear amount of things the Zerg has to do is a major obstacle to overcome. However, JD's mechanics are top notch and I would never count him out in a mechanics battle. I think if the macro game comes on Triathlon JD can win simply because of the number of bases the Zerg can secure early on. Odd-eye? He'll have to play the build he used against Midas I think and deny 6 and 1 o' clock. And PR? I lol at the thought of a Zerg beating lategame mech on that map XD

I do wonder what JD will plan to do... Commit to aggression which got him the nickname "The Tyrant" or play a macro game and try and be perfect O.o Both routes seem incredibly Flash favored im afraid >.<

edit: my odd eye thought was assuming Flash spawns bottom XD just reverse the o clocks for the other spawn XD
Jaedong and Baby
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
August 27 2010 09:17 GMT
#42
I love watching both of them play. I can't really make up my mind who to support. Epic!
Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
August 27 2010 09:19 GMT
#43
Flash has Jaedong in his pocket, you zerg lovers all know it.
FLASH IS EVOLUTION AND YOU'RE ALL IN FOR A WAKE UP CALL!!!!!! 3-0 FLASH
........
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
August 27 2010 09:20 GMT
#44
The Ultimate Weapon!

FLASH FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 27 2010 09:22 GMT
#45
To all of you talking about the difficulty of winning macro games, don't forget that 'strategic' play is a viable alternative to such games.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
August 27 2010 09:25 GMT
#46
People don't see Jaedong 3-0 Flash because he usually loose the first game...
I think Flash has an advantage because he can study the Light-Jaedong games.

BTW: People give to much importance to the WCG games. Both Jaedong and Flash didn't even prepared that well for the WCG Korea final.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
August 27 2010 09:33 GMT
#47
Flash for dual golds!!!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
August 27 2010 09:37 GMT
#48
Flash will own JD with timing push...

The timing is at 3/3 200 food mech.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 27 2010 09:38 GMT
#49
On August 27 2010 18:37 bearbuddy wrote:
Flash will own JD with timing push...

The timing is at 3/3 200 food mech.

No, JD will push when Flash hits 3/3 200 food. The manliest time for a zerg to push!
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
August 27 2010 09:41 GMT
#50
On August 27 2010 18:38 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 18:37 bearbuddy wrote:
Flash will own JD with timing push...

The timing is at 3/3 200 food mech.

No, JD will push when Flash hits 3/3 200 food. The manliest time for a zerg to push!


Right right, I forget, sorry. Flash will move to the outer layer of his half of the map.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 09:47:08
August 27 2010 09:44 GMT
#51
Holy shit I didn't even notice MSL finals are tomorrow until now -___-

Stupid SC2 tournaments clogging everything up

As to predictions, I honestly think Flash will win very easily 3-0 or 3-1. Jaedong's series against Light left me doubting on whether he could really take Flash. All of his wins were early/mid game timing rushes and every time it got to late game, he would get stomped. I don't think he's got what it takes to beat Flash. And the maps are horrible.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
August 27 2010 10:05 GMT
#52
this MSL probably won't get as much hype cause it's been the 3rd time in the row. Too be honest I rather see a different finals lol
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
August 27 2010 10:13 GMT
#53
Flash will win easily. :/
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5444 Posts
August 27 2010 10:23 GMT
#54
Is there a pregame music group?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
SkyLegenD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States304 Posts
August 27 2010 10:23 GMT
#55
Jaedong fighting-
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 27 2010 10:33 GMT
#56
nice poll.

interesting fact: just like every other jaedong - flash poll, if you count together all jaedong winning and flash winning votes, its exactly 50:50
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 27 2010 10:52 GMT
#57
On August 27 2010 19:33 Heimatloser wrote:
nice poll.

interesting fact: just like every other jaedong - flash poll, if you count together all jaedong winning and flash winning votes, its exactly 50:50

LeeSsang Rok - balancing polls since 2009.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
August 27 2010 11:30 GMT
#58
Hoping for Jaedong... Thinking Flash will win it =(
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5588 Posts
August 27 2010 11:46 GMT
#59
I wonder what would happen if they played on balanced maps

Three finals in a row the map pool seems impossible for zerg. Ah well, Jaedong has done it before.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
August 27 2010 11:54 GMT
#60
go jd
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 185 186 187 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
00:40
DH Dallas Replay Casts
Clem vs SHIN
Reynor vs herO
ShowTime vs SHIN
Serral vs Solar
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 186
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 479
Leta 100
Mind 52
Noble 31
Hm[arnc] 11
Bale 4
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm94
League of Legends
JimRising 741
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1398
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor109
Other Games
summit1g7020
WinterStarcraft537
Mew2King195
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick735
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH282
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1274
• Stunt436
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
3h 1m
Bellum Gens Elite
3h 1m
Reynor vs ShoWTimE
Serral vs Lambo
Clem vs Zoun
SC Evo League
5h 1m
Fire Grow Cup
8h 1m
CSO Contender
10h 1m
BSL: ProLeague
11h 1m
StRyKeR vs MadiNho
Cross vs UltrA
TT1 vs JDConan
Bonyth vs Sziky
Replay Cast
17h 1m
SOOP Global
20h 1m
Creator vs Rogue
Cure vs Classic
SOOP
1d 2h
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
[ Show More ]
AllThingsProtoss
1d 4h
Fire Grow Cup
1d 8h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 11h
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL Code S
5 days
herO vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL Code S
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.