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Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 09:10:49
August 27 2010 09:08 GMT
#41
On August 27 2010 17:58 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 17:51 blade55555 wrote:
On August 27 2010 17:43 Vivi57 wrote:
Honestly, this is entirely up to jd. If he tries to play a macro game, it will go 3-0 flash easily.

Otherwise, it's going to come down to flash's defense where he will hopefully be one level above jd in mind games and come out of the early game even in every game. Which would lead to 3-0 flash.


so good luck to jd's kwanro style aggression to try to take out our hero.


lol you underestimate Jaedong's macro so bad. And I would call flash the villain not the hero

Jaedong Fighting! Hope for some good games 3 epic games with Jaedong winning all 3 :D

JD lost to Flash in their recent macro game, and was unable to beat Light in a macro game either (both times). If JD takes this series, it will be either with lings/mutas, or by Flash fucking up a timing push and crippling into the midgame on 1-2 base to JD's 6.


I think JD COULD take a macro game against Flash. He should've won that WCG lategame given the advantage he had, but made several poor drops (on par with Leta's shitty drop), that allowed Flash to get a sizable tank force. The thing about lategame TvZ is it really is a battle of mechanics and the shear amount of things the Zerg has to do is a major obstacle to overcome. However, JD's mechanics are top notch and I would never count him out in a mechanics battle. I think if the macro game comes on Triathlon JD can win simply because of the number of bases the Zerg can secure early on. Odd-eye? He'll have to play the build he used against Midas I think and deny 6 and 1 o' clock. And PR? I lol at the thought of a Zerg beating lategame mech on that map XD

I do wonder what JD will plan to do... Commit to aggression which got him the nickname "The Tyrant" or play a macro game and try and be perfect O.o Both routes seem incredibly Flash favored im afraid >.<

edit: my odd eye thought was assuming Flash spawns bottom XD just reverse the o clocks for the other spawn XD
Jaedong and Baby
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
August 27 2010 09:17 GMT
#42
I love watching both of them play. I can't really make up my mind who to support. Epic!
Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
August 27 2010 09:19 GMT
#43
Flash has Jaedong in his pocket, you zerg lovers all know it.
FLASH IS EVOLUTION AND YOU'RE ALL IN FOR A WAKE UP CALL!!!!!! 3-0 FLASH
........
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
August 27 2010 09:20 GMT
#44
The Ultimate Weapon!

FLASH FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 27 2010 09:22 GMT
#45
To all of you talking about the difficulty of winning macro games, don't forget that 'strategic' play is a viable alternative to such games.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
August 27 2010 09:25 GMT
#46
People don't see Jaedong 3-0 Flash because he usually loose the first game...
I think Flash has an advantage because he can study the Light-Jaedong games.

BTW: People give to much importance to the WCG games. Both Jaedong and Flash didn't even prepared that well for the WCG Korea final.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
August 27 2010 09:33 GMT
#47
Flash for dual golds!!!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
August 27 2010 09:37 GMT
#48
Flash will own JD with timing push...

The timing is at 3/3 200 food mech.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 27 2010 09:38 GMT
#49
On August 27 2010 18:37 bearbuddy wrote:
Flash will own JD with timing push...

The timing is at 3/3 200 food mech.

No, JD will push when Flash hits 3/3 200 food. The manliest time for a zerg to push!
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
August 27 2010 09:41 GMT
#50
On August 27 2010 18:38 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 18:37 bearbuddy wrote:
Flash will own JD with timing push...

The timing is at 3/3 200 food mech.

No, JD will push when Flash hits 3/3 200 food. The manliest time for a zerg to push!


Right right, I forget, sorry. Flash will move to the outer layer of his half of the map.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 09:47:08
August 27 2010 09:44 GMT
#51
Holy shit I didn't even notice MSL finals are tomorrow until now -___-

Stupid SC2 tournaments clogging everything up

As to predictions, I honestly think Flash will win very easily 3-0 or 3-1. Jaedong's series against Light left me doubting on whether he could really take Flash. All of his wins were early/mid game timing rushes and every time it got to late game, he would get stomped. I don't think he's got what it takes to beat Flash. And the maps are horrible.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
August 27 2010 10:05 GMT
#52
this MSL probably won't get as much hype cause it's been the 3rd time in the row. Too be honest I rather see a different finals lol
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
August 27 2010 10:13 GMT
#53
Flash will win easily. :/
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5756 Posts
August 27 2010 10:23 GMT
#54
Is there a pregame music group?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
SkyLegenD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States304 Posts
August 27 2010 10:23 GMT
#55
Jaedong fighting-
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 27 2010 10:33 GMT
#56
nice poll.

interesting fact: just like every other jaedong - flash poll, if you count together all jaedong winning and flash winning votes, its exactly 50:50
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 27 2010 10:52 GMT
#57
On August 27 2010 19:33 Heimatloser wrote:
nice poll.

interesting fact: just like every other jaedong - flash poll, if you count together all jaedong winning and flash winning votes, its exactly 50:50

LeeSsang Rok - balancing polls since 2009.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
August 27 2010 11:30 GMT
#58
Hoping for Jaedong... Thinking Flash will win it =(
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
August 27 2010 11:46 GMT
#59
I wonder what would happen if they played on balanced maps

Three finals in a row the map pool seems impossible for zerg. Ah well, Jaedong has done it before.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
August 27 2010 11:54 GMT
#60
go jd
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