EPT[MSL] Round of 16 - Day 2 - Page 20
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LetMeShine
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prosatan
Romania9425 Posts
hydra bust  no late game, maybe? | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:47 LetMeShine wrote: Seriously, ZvP is completely methodical, more so than any other matchup. You can actually draw a pretty simply flowchart because if you don't screw up hard like Effort likes to do, you have no real chance of losing. Defilers basically make it easy to kill a protoss army. Plague makes zealots twice as easy to kill and Dark Swarm makes archons do less damage as well as make dragoons completely useless. There is not reason not to get defilers because they're the unit that kills the whole protoss army. Personally I think Kal didn't expect Jaedong to macro this well. Damn, why don't those korean pros just ask you for that flowchart. They must be really dumb. In other news, reavers, (storm) and feedback help tons against defilers. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:44 snowdrift86 wrote: I keep reading he should've killed 3 after 9 but JD had rebuilt his army by then, and Kal had lost most of his 2-base mass army and was mined out at his natural. He needed to expand and I don't think he could've just walked into 3, so he took lower left. By the time he rebuilt his forces, mostly goons/archons, he was facing infinite swarms. hm not really as far as i remember when they showed jds view he had like 6 lurk 1 group of hyds and a few zerglings in front of his bridge and absolutely nothing at 3 kal could just move up, kill the (i guess it was still morphing) hatch and then expand there while trying to hold his nat/third while getting 3 up | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:53 LetMeShine wrote: Oh wow hydralisk den before lair I WONDER WHAT THIS MEANS 4hatch 3base ALLIN CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
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Lebesgue
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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prosatan
Romania9425 Posts
stats has time to build cannons | ||
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LetMeShine
979 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:53 Monsen wrote: Damn, why don't those korean pros just ask you for that flowchart. They must be really dumb. In other news, reavers, (storm) and feedback help tons against defilers. They already know it, that's why protoss players generally keep on losing to zerg in the exact identical ways. Plus you must be joking. Templar units, if you didn't know, don't have unlimited energy and are actually very gas expensive units. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:54 Avidkeystamper wrote: This is some sort of suboptimal 4 hatch hydra build? Calm seriously didn't want to just expand to 7 first? -___- haha this is a slightly changed version of hero's zvp. get early hydras with range, make protoss get a ton of cannons, and then go to midgame with mass economy from 4 hatcheries | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Gateway down too. 5 cannons at nat, templar archives finished. | ||
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:54 Avidkeystamper wrote: This is some sort of suboptimal 4 hatch hydra build? Calm seriously didn't want to just expand to 7 first? -___- 4 Hatch Hydra is a build Calm/Hero have been experimenting with, and honestly, I think it yields better results than 3 Hatch Hydra because if the first Hydra bust doesn't work you have a lot more room to recovery. You can settle with just making the Protoss make cannons, and then just massing Drones. | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
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Lebesgue
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nepeta
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On July 24 2010 17:53 Monsen wrote: Damn, why don't those korean pros just ask you for that flowchart. They must be really dumb. In other news, reavers, (storm) and feedback help tons against defilers. I wouldn't want to feedback JDefilers when they're under swarm, mixed with lings and lurkers, and running for your hill :p Dark archons are nice, but require some space to use them (i.e. a ball). Also, if this game had an OSL style resource overlay, I don't think Kal had that many gas to spend. | ||
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LetMeShine
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