EPT[MSL] Round of 16 - Day 2 - Page 18
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
storm/reaver > swarm Do you play starcraft? | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
I'm n.diejOkes, I write things and post them. Also I just critiqued the best zerg on earth | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:45 Fenrax wrote: I really dont get how so many of you can complain about this game. This was very very very high level ZvP. Kal fought his way out of a contain very good, seemed to take the advantage but then JD just won the game with an insane, epic Lurker Defiler Ling Push. It was just awesome. Well sometimes I have the urge to complain like when Kal blows a lead against Flash just so to knock the other good players down a little bit when they're playing too good. But ofc, I'm not denying Kal didn't screw up this time. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
STX players are going to get destroyed today | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:44 snowdrift86 wrote: I keep reading he should've killed 3 after 9 but JD had reinforced by then, he had lost most of his army and was mined out at his natural. By the time he rebuilt, mostly goons/archons, he was facing infinite swarms. no, not at all dude. kal could have rolled the 3 oclock base easily and get up his own expansion pretty safely. his army at that point was so much bigger than jd's. and this is how a pvz usually progresses - your natural mines out but it doesn't matter if you have your third. with an army lead that kal had, he could have killed and taken 3 olock easily. kal couldn't have asked for a better situation | ||
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Lebesgue
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prosatan
Romania8047 Posts
remember that kas survived for so long because of the imbalanced storms  and i am a protoss player ^^ | ||
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amanet
Croatia334 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:44 moopie wrote: Cause swarm+cracklings wins pvzs? if Kal had 4 reavers sitting there then he might have been able to hold off, but that's debatable. Kal had great storms this game, but they are not a repeatable answer to mass cracklings. so this is exactly what i traying to say .. zerg in sc1 is too cheap and have to powerfull spells | ||
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LetMeShine
979 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:43 OneOther wrote: i refuse to believe that a top five protoss progamer didn't know a zerg wouldn't make defilers with crackling/lurker/hydra combination Seriously, ZvP is completely methodical, more so than any other matchup. You can actually draw a pretty simply flowchart because if you don't screw up hard like Effort likes to do, you have no real chance of losing. Defilers basically make it easy to kill a protoss army. Plague makes zealots twice as easy to kill and Dark Swarm makes archons do less damage as well as make dragoons completely useless. There is not reason not to get defilers because they're the unit that kills the whole protoss army. Personally I think Kal didn't expect Jaedong to macro this well. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Snipinpanda
United States1227 Posts
lol everything in BW is imba. As OneOther said, Kal should've definitely expected defilers/dark swarm. I don't think JD was in a position to make ultras, so the other obvious late game choice is defilers He didn't have enough templar for storm? Or maybe he should've made zealots? I don't know PvZ well at all though, being a T player. Maybe someone else has to say about his lategame comp? | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:46 Salteador Neo wrote: I really hope Clam doesn't go for an hydra bust, i wanna see some late game Stats PvZ Calm's strategy has been nothing but hydra bust lately, which is why he's been losing. I expect him to be more diverse in his strategy against stats. | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
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Rio
Vietnam598 Posts
Those Lings and Hydras JD spend are cheaper than Those deadly goon Kal spend Epic game JD :D | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:47 FireGuyX wrote: Calm's strategy has been nothing but hydra bust lately, which is why he's been losing. I expect him to be more diverse in his strategy against stats. Well he can also go for 2 hatch muta all-in like against Pure ><' | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
 Calm @ 5 Stats @ 11 | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:47 LetMeShine wrote: Seriously, ZvP is completely methodical, more so than any other matchup. You can actually draw a pretty simply flowchart because if you don't screw up hard like Effort likes to do, you have no real chance of losing. Defilers basically make it easy to kill a protoss army. Plague makes zealots twice as easy to kill and Dark Swarm makes archons do less damage as well as make dragoons completely useless. There is not reason not to get defilers because they're the unit that kills the whole protoss army. Personally I think Kal didn't expect Jaedong to macro this well. I think he just simply got too excited. After so many times he got so close to beating Jaedong that he couldn't control his nerves. And Jaedong took adventage of that Anyway, go Stats! | ||
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prototype.
Canada4202 Posts
Calm @ 5Stats @ 11 | ||
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