EPT[MSL] Round of 16 - Day 2 - Page 17
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Lebesgue
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:36 Snipinpanda wrote: LOL reavers running away from guardians. Slowest running away from slower. =D I don't get this game at all though. I thought Kal was really ahead after taking out 9, as he was on equal bases. Then he took another base but he stopped macroing or something? I don't even know because I don't think you get steam rolled that badly by that if you had some units. It's like all of Kal's units disappeared 0.o he had no rvrs to fight swarm he lost a lot against lurk/ling and swarm he didnt scout 3 had he killed 3, seeing that jd didnt expand to the top left he would have easily won. but yeah, kinda hard to tell why pro gamer make such mistakes. i mean i try to get rvr with my third gas -.- | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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amanet
Croatia334 Posts
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Neverhood
United States5388 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:36 Snipinpanda wrote: LOL reavers running away from guardians. Slowest running away from slower. =D I don't get this game at all though. I thought Kal was really ahead after taking out 9, as he was on equal bases. Then he took another base but he stopped macroing or something? I don't even know because I don't think you get steam rolled that badly by that if you had some units. It's like all of Kal's units disappeared 0.o I think Kal had a few too many gateways while he was still on 2 base, which made his initial army huge and why he won his first big engagement against JD but he couldn't support it because his main and natural were mined out by the time JD countered. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:40 Megalisk wrote: protip: no one cares What you actually saw was the famous JD>P imbalance. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:41 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Kal had it. But he has to play more smart. Earlier Reavers and denying 3 o' clock after killing 9 o'clock would have won him the game. Kal should have attacked the 12 o'clock expansion instead of the 9 o'clock, but I think Kal didn't know about it. JD losing the 9 o'clock meant little. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:41 amanet wrote: cant wait to see clash of JD and KAL in SC2 Won't happen... | ||
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:41 mdb wrote: Kal didnt expect the defliers, thats why he lost I think. i refuse to believe that a top five protoss progamer didn't know a zerg would make defilers with crackling/lurker/hydra combination | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:41 Neverhood wrote: I think Kal had a few too many gateways while he was still on 2 base, which made his initial army huge and why he won his first big engagement against JD but he couldn't support it because his main and natural were mined out by the time JD countered. It's obvious, but I'd like to point out that Jaedong still had mining from his main and nat and third and 3 o clock while Kal only had mining from his seven after a bit, so that does explain why Kal seemed to have a smaller than expected army. Not to mention a lot of it died to swarm +lurkerling. | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:42 wassbix wrote: Kal choked so hard D: I still can't understand how he lost his main with that army comp he had JD showed him how to finish a (expletive) game. | ||
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:42 Lebesgue wrote: What? Didn't expect defilers? So what the hell did he expect. Why no reavers? Plus why the hell he took 7 instead of 3 as it was pointed out... Kal had it big time and lost it because he couldn't keep his mind calm... Also, swarm was literally the only thing that could turn that game. Cracklings are imba good but can't fight that difference of psy. | ||
snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:41 Djin)ftw( wrote: he had no rvrs to fight swarm he lost a lot against lurk/ling and swarm he didnt scout 3 had he killed 3, seeing that jd didnt expand to the top left he would have easily won. but yeah, kinda hard to tell why pro gamer make such mistakes. i mean i try to get rvr with my third gas -.- I keep reading he should've killed 3 after 9 but JD had rebuilt his army by then, and Kal had lost most of his 2-base mass army and was mined out at his natural. He needed to expand and I don't think he could've just walked into 3, so he took lower left. By the time he rebuilt his forces, mostly goons/archons, he was facing infinite swarms. | ||
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amanet
Croatia334 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:42 wassbix wrote: Kal choked so hard D: I still can't understand how he lost his main with that army comp he had because of imbalanced dark swarm | ||
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nineninja9
United States194 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:39 OneOther wrote: it just looks like kal got so excited at the thought of finally beating JD and freaked out. lost control of what he was doing. any decent protoss would have known that expanding to 7 oclock was a horrible idea. when it's 3 bases vs 3 bases and you are controlling the center, every protoss player would have tried to expand to 3 oclock - while killing JD's expansion there in the process. why? because this allows you to maintain your army in one location and keep your center control, instead of spreading yourself out too thin. damn i was really rooting for kal. the poor guy couldn't control his boner. Kal was mined out at his main at that point and almost mined out at his natural. He went up to 7/8 gates on 2 base to break the contain, so if he didn't expand to 7 immediately it'd end up being 3 base to 1 mining anyways. I think his decision was fine, it was just his execution that was lacking. That and not building a single reaver all of midgame. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On July 24 2010 17:42 wassbix wrote: Kal choked so hard D: I still can't understand how he lost his main with that army comp he had Cause swarm+cracklings wins pvzs? if Kal had 4 reavers sitting there then he might have been able to hold off, but that's debatable. Kal had great storms this game, but they are not a repeatable answer to mass cracklings. | ||
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