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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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nebffa
Australia776 Posts
On January 04 2010 21:48 darktreb wrote: People are getting ahead of themselves a bit here.... Flash beating Stork in one game on one of hte rare good TvP maps doesn't mean his TvP is proven again. But yeah it is still really good - just need to finish off Best and possibly Movie to make a final statement. The stats for New Tornado are 2-1 PvT, and the stats for New Tornado + Tornado are 3-3 PvT in total, so we can't really say if it's a good TvP map yet. But your point definately stands. Flash has gotten smacked around so much by the big Protosses that one or two wins vs these same players isn't enough yet. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 04 2010 21:48 darktreb wrote: People are getting ahead of themselves a bit here.... Flash beating Stork in one game on one of hte rare good TvP maps doesn't mean his TvP is proven again. But yeah it is still really good - just need to finish off Best and possibly Movie to make a final statement. I agree, one really short game isn't enough. It's still just scary though when you think about how it's clearly his weakest matchup | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On January 04 2010 21:53 Hinanawi wrote: Let's save the b-word talk for after he cinches the OSL win...it would be pretty embarassing to have him suddenly drop the finals to Shine or something. Oh god. I don't want to think about such possibility. Flash HAS TO take this OSL. | ||
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whathappened
United States213 Posts
On January 04 2010 21:56 Lebesgue wrote: I don't want to think about such possibility. Flash HAS TO take this OSL. Shine winning this OSL will be so saddening. But, I expect the semi-finals B with Movie vs Shine will be a lot more entertaining than Flash 3-0 or 3-1'ing either of them in the finals. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
On January 04 2010 21:48 ColdLava wrote: Yeah because players getting old is exactly the reason why they fail. You make it sound like being 20 years old or something is detrimental lol Gotta go to the military bro, after that your career is pretty much over. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
kwanro winning the MSL is the only thing that would be sad. no sad is not strong enough. the day kwanro wins a title i hope the earth dies | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On January 04 2010 22:08 Djin)ftw( wrote: lol if shine wants to beat flash he would need to find himself a hyperbolic time chamber. that being said, flash wont lose to cheese so easily so if he does beat flash it would probably be entertainingwhy would shine winning the OSL be saddening? if he beats flash in an awesome series whats wrong with it? give this guy some respect. kwanro winning the MSL is the only thing that would be sad. no sad is not strong enough. the day kwanro wins a title i hope the earth dies | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
On January 04 2010 21:46 GTR wrote: i really do think, if flash wins both osl and msl, i think it is safe to assign the sixth b-word to him. i mean, look at this; made the osl semi-finals in his first attempt at the offline qualifiers made the msl in his second attempt at the offline qualifiers was on the proleague entries 2 months after his debut now tell me, who has had similar success like that? no one. in my 7 or so years of watching progaming, i have never felt so invigorated and excited by flash's dominating play. the last player i felt similar to this 'feeling' was iloveoov, and that was back in 2004. Again, I think it's too early. Flash is without a doubt playing like a bonjwa. The key distinction between playing like a bonjwa and being a bonjwa is the amount of time you can keep it up. Flash's utter domination of this season is a strong argument but he needs to win a SL here and then maintain it for at least one more season. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On January 04 2010 22:11 revy wrote: Again, I think it's too early. Flash is without a doubt playing like a bonjwa. The key distinction between playing like a bonjwa and being a bonjwa is the amount of time you can keep it up. Flash's utter domination of this season is a strong argument but he needs to win a SL here and then maintain it for at least one more season. true. jd also was tearing shit up in PL and won 2 back to back titles and still wasnt considered bonjwa. | ||
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kyzers0ze
Singapore1073 Posts
On January 04 2010 22:15 Black Gun wrote: true. jd also was tearing shit up in PL and won 2 back to back titles and still wasnt considered bonjwa. JD didn't hit 240.... | ||
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kyzers0ze
Singapore1073 Posts
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
Click the spoiler to see how Flash's dominance has unfolded so far this season, though. Just unreal: + Show Spoiler + Every game played this season: ![[image loading]](http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7244/flashthisseason.png) HyuN is the only 'Loss' who hasn't had righteous vengeance passed on him yet. He'd better watch out next time he faces Flash. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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johanes
Czech Republic2229 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Flash also didnt have to play in MSL semis, OSL finals and PL finals. Jaedong just had a bad luck with scheduling. If they were at least two weeks apart, Jaedong could have won a Treble for sure. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On January 04 2010 22:00 Noxide wrote: Gotta go to the military bro, after that your career is pretty much over. By the time Flash goes to military service in Korea... Starcraft 2 SHOULD be out by then! | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On January 04 2010 21:41 Black Gun wrote: i think u dont understand how much gamesense is involved in flashs play. its always easier to copy guys like e.g. jaedong who takes solid strategies and turns them into rape by supreme mechanics than to copy a guy like flash for whom gamesense, timing and mechanics are equally vital. This. As Day[9] says, look for when and where Flash decides to use his scans during a VOD or replay. His game sense is impeccable. He always seems to know exactly where to scan, what to scan for, and he always seems to know just when and where things are going to come. That, and in many games he shows that he can just stroll "blindly" across the map. In one of his recent OSL games, he exhibited late game map control against a Hive tech Zerg and was able to move about freely despite the presence of ultraling, defiler, and mass scourge. I was absolutely going "Wow wtf" when he had his Vessels SEPARATED from the rest of his army and just kept moving them around. I don't think I know any other player that can just isolate his ENTIRE VESSEL CLOUD from the rest of his army and just move it about as he pleases, letting the Vessels die and just remaking them later. In the same game, he moved out with his MnM tank push BEFORE his vessel came out. How many Terran players would push out before the vessel came out? It takes an incredible game sense and even some mental willpower to do something like that. It's absolutely unfathomable, even the best Zerg players look like they are playing like crap against Flash. Except they're not playing like crap, Flash just knows when he can exploit his opponents and when he can move about freely. Day[9] often says that Flash's strength is making his opponents do what HE wants them to. He forces them to play his game, and that is an extremely scary talent. His game sense reminds me of Savior during Shinhan 3, it's like Savior's defense was just impenetrable until he was ready to roll his opponent into the ground. | ||
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