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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2073 Posts
January 04 2010 12:36 GMT
#1121
On January 04 2010 21:25 Jakalo wrote:
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You fool tried to play standart against me


lololololol
Oppa feeding style
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 04 2010 12:36 GMT
#1122
But the real hero of the day for KT was definitely Violet. To come back in that fashion after being contained for like 75% of the game and ling runby'd is spectacular. After losing so many probes to lings, that was incredibly well done.
God Bless
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 12:42:00
January 04 2010 12:36 GMT
#1123
I would like to point out that no other player has been at a 70% win rate after 2 years and 10 months of playing pro games, the way Flash has. Not even Nada, who when I checked, thought would be the only player to do that. That's incredible because if anyone remembers that era, Nada was dominant for a long long long time. What a fucking monster Flash is

After 2 years and 10 months these players were:

Bisu - 103-73, 58.52%

Jaedong - 161-82, 66.26%

Savior - 56-37, 60.22%, but I also calculated it until he was beat by Bisu, too, as that's when his era ended, and simply the fact that he took a while before he started really beating people: 118-59, 66.67%

Iloveoov - 159-83, 65.70%

Nada - 185-89, 67.52%

Boxer - 151-84, 64.26%

Also I would like to point out that when Boxer, Nada, Savior and Iloveoov played, pro gamers played a lot less games and it was easier for those players to prepare for each game. Flash Bisu and Jaedong have to worry more about people sniping them when they're in all these leagues and playing all these games, because the people they play, play a lot less. Also the fact that a heavy schedule really wears down on you, I think Flash's achievements so far was far more incredible than Boxer or Nada's. ESPECIALLY if Flash wins both leagues at the same time.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 04 2010 12:37 GMT
#1124
On January 04 2010 21:36 Roffles wrote:
But the real hero of the day for KT was definitely Violet. To come back in that fashion after being contained for like 75% of the game and ling runby'd is spectacular. After losing so many probes to lings, that was incredibly well done.

hero for kt is great because he played so badly
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 04 2010 12:37 GMT
#1125
I think StarCraft is pretty much figured out already. To beat Flash, play FUCKING standard and try to keep up with him. Pretty soon all Terrans will copy Flash and any matchup vs Terran is pretty much set up.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 12:39:28
January 04 2010 12:38 GMT
#1126
Jaedong is the last bonjwa
+ Show Spoiler +

lol
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
January 04 2010 12:39 GMT
#1127
On January 04 2010 21:37 Xiphos wrote:
I think StarCraft is pretty much figured out already. To beat Flash, play FUCKING standard and try to keep up with him. Pretty soon all Terrans will copy Flash and any matchup vs Terran is pretty much set up.


You don't know howwwww many people have said that over and over again. People have said that the whole last decade. Flash looks invincible right now as have other players that have simply dominated for a long time but those players will always fall.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 04 2010 12:40 GMT
#1128
er if anyone is interested

kingdom si teaching the booth girl some sick protoss micro
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 04 2010 12:40 GMT
#1129
On January 04 2010 21:39 ColdLava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 21:37 Xiphos wrote:
I think StarCraft is pretty much figured out already. To beat Flash, play FUCKING standard and try to keep up with him. Pretty soon all Terrans will copy Flash and any matchup vs Terran is pretty much set up.


You don't know howwwww many people have said that over and over again. People have said that the whole last decade. Flash looks invincible right now as have other players that have simply dominated for a long time but those players will always fall.



Really? I don't see any ways that anyone can beat Flash. Flash can just keep practicing and play like this and dominate?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 04 2010 12:41 GMT
#1130
It seems like Flash turns God Mode on when other Terrans are struggling. He looks at Terran struggling as a race and is just like FUCK THAT I'M FIXING THIS ASAP

If you made a list of the Top 15 best players right now, the race distribution would probably look something like this (in no particular order):

Protoss:

(P)Stork, (P)Bisu, (P)Movie, (P)Kal, (P)Violet, (P)Stats, (P)BeSt

Zerg:

(Z)Jaedong, (Z)Calm, (Z)ZerO, (Z)Shine, (Z)Kwanro, (Z)EffOrt

Terran:

(T)Flash, (T)Sea
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 04 2010 12:41 GMT
#1131
On January 04 2010 21:37 Xiphos wrote:
I think StarCraft is pretty much figured out already. To beat Flash, play FUCKING standard and try to keep up with him. Pretty soon all Terrans will copy Flash and any matchup vs Terran is pretty much set up.


i think u dont understand how much gamesense is involved in flashs play. its always easier to copy guys like e.g. jaedong who takes solid strategies and turns them into rape by supreme mechanics than to copy a guy like flash for whom gamesense, timing and mechanics are equally vital.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 04 2010 12:41 GMT
#1132
On January 04 2010 21:33 SilverskY wrote:
Stats is really impressing me though. Beating Jangbi in a Bo3, and his play against Stork was pretty admirable, until his reaver micro flop that is... But definitely a big up and comer with tons and tons of potential... KT has a ballin' team with great depth.


There was an interview with H.O.T.- forever where he says that Stats will be probably their new big P. So apparently they believe he has lots of potential.
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
January 04 2010 12:45 GMT
#1133
On January 04 2010 21:40 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 21:39 ColdLava wrote:
On January 04 2010 21:37 Xiphos wrote:
I think StarCraft is pretty much figured out already. To beat Flash, play FUCKING standard and try to keep up with him. Pretty soon all Terrans will copy Flash and any matchup vs Terran is pretty much set up.


You don't know howwwww many people have said that over and over again. People have said that the whole last decade. Flash looks invincible right now as have other players that have simply dominated for a long time but those players will always fall.



Really? I don't see any ways that anyone can beat Flash. Flash can just keep practicing and play like this and dominate?


People said that about Iloveoov until he faced July, or Reach.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 12:48:33
January 04 2010 12:46 GMT
#1134
i really do think, if flash wins both osl and msl, i think it is safe to assign the sixth b-word to him.

i mean, look at this;

made the osl semi-finals in his first attempt at the offline qualifiers
made the msl in his second attempt at the offline qualifiers
was on the proleague entries 2 months after his debut

now tell me, who has had similar success like that? no one.

in my 7 or so years of watching progaming, i have never felt so invigorated and excited by flash's dominating play. the last player i felt similar to this 'feeling' was iloveoov, and that was back in 2004.
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 04 2010 12:46 GMT
#1135
On January 04 2010 21:41 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 21:33 SilverskY wrote:
Stats is really impressing me though. Beating Jangbi in a Bo3, and his play against Stork was pretty admirable, until his reaver micro flop that is... But definitely a big up and comer with tons and tons of potential... KT has a ballin' team with great depth.


There was an interview with H.O.T.- forever where he says that Stats will be probably their new big P. So apparently they believe he has lots of potential.


Flash also said in the MSL group selection that Stats shouldn't be worried about what group he ended up in, as he could beat anyone if he got over his nerves.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
January 04 2010 12:46 GMT
#1136
On January 04 2010 21:39 ColdLava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 21:37 Xiphos wrote:
I think StarCraft is pretty much figured out already. To beat Flash, play FUCKING standard and try to keep up with him. Pretty soon all Terrans will copy Flash and any matchup vs Terran is pretty much set up.


You don't know howwwww many people have said that over and over again. People have said that the whole last decade. Flash looks invincible right now as have other players that have simply dominated for a long time but those players will always fall.


Yes, they do. When they get old.
Flash is just 17. He might just as well dominate for a while until his era passes.
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
January 04 2010 12:48 GMT
#1137
On January 04 2010 21:46 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 21:39 ColdLava wrote:
On January 04 2010 21:37 Xiphos wrote:
I think StarCraft is pretty much figured out already. To beat Flash, play FUCKING standard and try to keep up with him. Pretty soon all Terrans will copy Flash and any matchup vs Terran is pretty much set up.


You don't know howwwww many people have said that over and over again. People have said that the whole last decade. Flash looks invincible right now as have other players that have simply dominated for a long time but those players will always fall.


Yes, they do. When they get old.
Flash is just 17. He might just as well dominate for a while until his era passes.


Yeah because players getting old is exactly the reason why they fail. You make it sound like being 20 years old or something is detrimental lol
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 04 2010 12:48 GMT
#1138
On January 04 2010 21:37 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 21:36 Roffles wrote:
But the real hero of the day for KT was definitely Violet. To come back in that fashion after being contained for like 75% of the game and ling runby'd is spectacular. After losing so many probes to lings, that was incredibly well done.

hero for kt is great because he played so badly

Or you can say that, cause Great played like complete shit. Don't know what he was doing the entire game.
God Bless
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
January 04 2010 12:48 GMT
#1139
On January 04 2010 21:46 GTR wrote:
i really do think, if flash wins both osl and msl, i think it is safe to assign the sixth b-word to him.

i mean, look at this;

made the osl semi-finalsin his first attempt at the offline qualifiers
made the msl in his second attempt at the offline qualifiers
was on the proleague entries 2 months after his debut

now tell me, who has had similar success like that? no one.

in my 7 or so years of watching progaming, i have never felt so invigorated by flash's dominating play. the last player i felt similar to this 'feeling' was iloveoov.


I completely agree ^_^
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
January 04 2010 12:48 GMT
#1140
People are getting ahead of themselves a bit here....

Flash beating Stork in one game on one of hte rare good TvP maps doesn't mean his TvP is proven again.

But yeah it is still really good - just need to finish off Best and possibly Movie to make a final statement.
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