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[SPL] CJ vs WeMade

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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:59:53
October 29 2009 11:18 GMT
#1
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CJ Entus vs WeMade FOX

(T)Iris < Tornado > (Z)Shine[kaL]
(T)sKyHigh < Moon Glaive > (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr < Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)RorO
(P)Movie < Fighting Spirit > (P)Pure
Closer: < Outsider SE >


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(T)Iris <Tornado> (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh <Moon Glaive> (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr <Heartbreak Ridge> (Z)RorO
(P)Movie <Fighting Spirit> (P)Pure
3-1 CJ Fighting!

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(T)Iris < Tornado > (Z)Shine[kaL]
(T)sKyHigh < Moon Glaive > (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr < Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)RorO
(P)Movie < Fighting Spirit > (P)Pure

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+ Show Spoiler +
sAviOr vs RorO on Heartbreak Ridge

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Channel MBC
UUsee Chinese Stream
Caller's English Cast

T.O.P's Stream
DoctorHelvetica's English Cast


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Poll: Who will win?
(Vote): CJ Entus
(Vote): WeMade Fox

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Poll: Who are you rooting for?
(Vote): CJ Entus
(Vote): WeMade Fox
(Vote): sAviOr

RIP Aaliyah
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 29 2009 11:31 GMT
#2
Why almost every OP apoligizes for graphics, like people expect them when they come to LR thread.Yours are nice and no need to apologize, its LR thread afterall, not some photoshop contest.
Results,stream link and recommended games are necessary, others are just for eye candy purpose.

Predicting~:
Iris>Shine
sKyHigh>Mind
Maestro<RorO
Movie>Pure
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 29 2009 12:03 GMT
#3
Iris > Shine
Skyhigh > Mind
sAviOr < RoRo
Movie < Pure
ACE:
EffOrt > RoRo

CJ 3-2 WeMade
sAviOr...
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
October 29 2009 12:13 GMT
#4
Iris>Shine
sKyHigh>Mind
Maestro<RorO
Movie<Pure
ACE EffOrt < RoRo
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 12:17:32
October 29 2009 12:16 GMT
#5
I Predict:

(T)Iris>(Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh>(T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr<(Z)RorO
(P)Movie>(P)Pure

Edit: It could also go 3-0 to CJ, i belive in (Z)sAviOr, but this result i predicted is best for me in fantasy
BW is back
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
October 29 2009 12:20 GMT
#6
Iris < Shine
sKyHigh > Mind
sAviOr < RorO
Movie > Pure
Ace : EffOrt < Mind
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maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
October 29 2009 12:30 GMT
#7
Iris > Shine
sKyHigh > Mind
sAviOr < RorO
Movie > Pure

3 - 1 CJ

I hate it when two players on your FPL team play each other...making it hard to optimize on your points
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
October 29 2009 12:36 GMT
#8
woah! sexy match, sexy banner!
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 12:40:44
October 29 2009 12:40 GMT
#9
As long as it doesn't look like this (no offense motbob, I know you worked hard on it), it's all good

3-1 CJ, Shine being the only one on WeMade who wins his match
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
October 29 2009 13:05 GMT
#10
C'mon 3-0 ceeeeeee jaaaaaay. I am apprehensive about savior zvz though...
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
October 29 2009 13:15 GMT
#11
lolololol

3-0 WeMade. Believe that, suckers.
Chains none
Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 13:29:03
October 29 2009 13:24 GMT
#12
(T)Iris < Tornado > (Z)Shine[kaL]
(T)sKyHigh < Moon Glaive > (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr < Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)RorO
(P)Movie < Fighting Spirit > (P)Pure
Closer: < Outsider SE >

Only game i have doubts about is (T)Iris/(Z)Shine.
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 18:10:18
October 29 2009 13:28 GMT
#13
(T)(T)Iris < Tornado > (Z)(Z)Shine

Normally, I'd pick Iris, but while Iris has been knocked out of both the MSL and OSL and hasn't really performed in the Proleague, Shine has advanced in both individuals and is doing fairly well in the Proleague. His momentum should carry him through Iris.

(T)(T)sKyHigh < Moon Glaive > (T)(T)Mind

Both these players have been knocked out of the MSL and OSL, but Skyhigh isn't doing well in the Proleague, while Mind has. Giving this to Mind.

(Z)(Z)sAviOr < Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)(Z)RorO

Savior's actually advanced in the MSL and isn't looking horrendous in the Proleague, while Roro has dropped his last couple Proleague games. Givin' this to The Maestro. If anything, Roro will be too nervous going against the God of all Zerg players.

(P)(P)Movie < Fighting Spirit > (P)(P)Pure

Movie's doing pretty well lately, advancing in the OSL (and I think MSL?) and not looking like a COMPLETE fool in the Proleague. Pure, while coming off a couple good wins in the Proleague (Yarnc?), hasn't advanced in the individual leagues, and just straight up isn't as good as Movie normally. Givin' this to Movie in a close one.

(Z)(Z)The Maestro < Outsider SE > (T)(T)Tornado Terran

A MAN CAN HOPE! Nada comes back in miraculous fashion and puts the beat down on the Maestro.

CJ Entus 2:3 WeMade FOX
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
October 29 2009 13:34 GMT
#14
poor CJ will be going down.
First set for the destroyer of the revolutionist, shall he be named (Z)The Police!
Second set easily goes to the (T)Mind, sKyHighs games lately are just too mindless
Third set, as much as i love the sAviOr, will go to (Z)RorO, he is a beast in ZvZ being on a 10-Game Winning streak (with only 1 loss inbetween).

I predict a very unspectacular 3:0 for the Foxys, CJ will be going down
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 29 2009 14:18 GMT
#15
Someone rename thread to ' [SPL] CJ Entus vs WeMade FOX ' please
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 29 2009 14:20 GMT
#16
On October 29 2009 21:40 Realpenguin wrote:
As long as it doesn't look like this (no offense motbob, I know you worked hard on it), it's all good

hey that is one of the sexiest LR thread in recent history
POGGERS
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
October 29 2009 14:21 GMT
#17
This is (T)Iris' and (P)Movie's chance to get some points for my fantasy team.

3-1 CJ, with (Z)sAviOr losing with his ZvZ. D:
BW4Life!
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 14:28:37
October 29 2009 14:28 GMT
#18
The graphics are fine.

What is that font in the banner btw? I used to use it to type up reports in like fourth grade. I forgot the name though
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 29 2009 14:53 GMT
#19
pfft people have no trust in (Z)sAviOr, he will 3-0 it again!!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Ro[]t
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden147 Posts
October 29 2009 14:55 GMT
#20
(T)Iris > (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh < (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr < (Z)RorO
(P)Movie > (P)Pure (allthough (P)Pure could take this)
ACE : (Z)EffOrt < (T)Mind
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 29 2009 15:22 GMT
#21
(T)Iris<(Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh >(T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr >(Z)RorO
(P)Movie <(P)Pure
(Z)sAviOr > (Z)RorO
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
tdotkrayzbetterthanu
Profile Joined October 2009
Afghanistan7 Posts
October 29 2009 15:26 GMT
#22
--- Nuked ---
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
October 29 2009 15:43 GMT
#23
On October 29 2009 23:28 SnowFantasy wrote:
The graphics are fine.

What is that font in the banner btw? I used to use it to type up reports in like fourth grade. I forgot the name though

I think it's Jokerman or something I remember using this font a lot too when i was younger lol.

CJ 3-1 !
Making history not reliving it.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
October 29 2009 15:48 GMT
#24
(T)Iris < (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh> (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr < (Z)RorO
(P)Movie < (P)Pure

1:3 wemade
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
October 29 2009 15:58 GMT
#25
WeMade got this, 3-0.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 29 2009 16:07 GMT
#26
I have no idea how people still believe in CJ
WeMade's gotthis
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
October 29 2009 16:19 GMT
#27
On October 30 2009 01:07 never_toss wrote:
I have no idea how people still believe in CJ
WeMade's gotthis


If CJ wins, I'm going to be all over you + Show Spoiler +
with hugs and kisses.
Soli Deo gloria.
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
October 29 2009 17:31 GMT
#28
CJ 3-1
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 17:31:44
October 29 2009 17:31 GMT
#29
(T)Iris > (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh < (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr < (Z)RorO
(P)Movie > (P)Pure
(Z)EffOrt > (T)Mind

PLEASE! DO IT FOR THE FANTASY TEAM! D:
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 17:36:53
October 29 2009 17:36 GMT
#30
God I really hope (Z)Shine gets absolutely mauled.

I'll take this:
(T)Iris > (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh > (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr > (Z)RorO

But it would be wonderful if (P)Movie proxy gated Shine or something in an ACE match.
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 29 2009 17:51 GMT
#31
On October 30 2009 02:36 tree.hugger wrote:
God I really hope (Z)Shine gets absolutely mauled.

I'll take this:
(T)Iris > (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh > (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr > (Z)RorO

But it would be wonderful if (P)Movie proxy gated Shine or something in an ACE match.


Psh lies. Movie will choke. It's his nature to be pathetically inconsistent.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 29 2009 17:53 GMT
#32
I can see Wemade putting up a fight but CJ should have this one nonetheless.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 29 2009 18:12 GMT
#33
On October 30 2009 02:53 Titusmaster6 wrote:
I can see Wemade putting up a fight but CJ should have this one nonetheless.


Shouldn't it be the other way around? Last I checked, WeMade was in 2nd and CJ in 7th..... Seems like WeMade has the upper hand.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 29 2009 18:15 GMT
#34
I saw nada in the op, but he's not playing

I can really see this one going either way though
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MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
October 29 2009 19:48 GMT
#35
Iris to win against Shine. Iris has something to prove and Shine is a great opponent to show that he still got it. Skyhigh is playing terrible, while Mind is doing pretty good, so I guess Mind will win this one, unless Skyhigh pulls a Sea and only wins in proleaguematches. Savior will win against Roro. Roro is still what he was last year, a reasonable zerg, but only that. Savior is playing better than usual and has actually made it to the MSL (albeit in a poule without zergs). I don't think Savior's versus zerg is so bad that he'll lose to a demoralised Roro. Finally, I feel that Movie is the better protoss in the last match. While Pure is riding the WeMade train of confidence and lucky strikes, he's not as good as Movie, who is getting better with every game he plays.

CJ 3-1 with Skyhigh dropping a game.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 29 2009 20:04 GMT
#36
Nada vs Savior ace plz.
Remember Violet.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 29 2009 20:14 GMT
#37
I have no reason to believe that Iris will beat Shine.

Skyhigh v Mind will be an awesome game to watch.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 20:30:13
October 29 2009 20:27 GMT
#38
No need to apologize for the graphics pal, the op looks slick.

Go Movie!
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 29 2009 20:43 GMT
#39
CJ 3-0 imo

and everyone is right, your OP looks great
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
October 29 2009 21:09 GMT
#40
go CJ! pretty even match.
Xellos <3
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 29 2009 21:49 GMT
#41
On October 30 2009 00:48 CTStalker wrote:
(T)Iris < (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh> (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr < (Z)RorO
(P)Movie < (P)Pure

1:3 wemade

i like this. i like this very much
cw)minsean(ru
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
October 29 2009 22:14 GMT
#42
I'm surprised so many people are predicting Mind > Skyhigh. Skyhigh is probably the second best TvTer (after Flash, of course).

I'm guessing:

(T)(T)Iris < Tornado > (Z)(Z)Shine[kaL]
(T)(T)sKyHigh < Moon Glaive > (T)(T)Mind
(Z)(Z)sAviOr < Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)(Z)RorO
(P)(P)Movie < Fighting Spirit > (P)(P)Pure
Closer: (Z)EffOrt< Outsider SE > Whoever
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 29 2009 22:15 GMT
#43
rawrrrrr CJ wins
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 00:16 GMT
#44
3:45 hours.

I'm excited!
RIP Aaliyah
Origami
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States266 Posts
October 31 2009 00:33 GMT
#45
Is Effort even going to be there tonight? I thought he's off doing IEF stuff.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 00:36 GMT
#46
On October 31 2009 09:33 Origami wrote:
Is Effort even going to be there tonight? I thought he's off doing IEF stuff.


Yeah. If it goes to ace it'll probably be skYhigh or Movie.
RIP Aaliyah
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 00:47:37
October 31 2009 00:41 GMT
#47
(T)Iris (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr (Z)RorO
(P)Movie (P)Pure

IriS < Shine

Shine has been playing pretty good lately, but iris has no expiration date. Tornado should make for at least an interesting game. It will depend if Shine can hold his mutas harrass long enough until his guardians morph.

sKyHigh > Mind

Two strong TvTers. sKyHigh showed really strong TvT in the last 10 games or so.

SaviOr < RorO

Whyyyyyy why does he have to play ZvZ every single time. I was losing hope, but just as I do, I watch the MSL qualies and I feel my little nerd heart beat again.

Movie > Pure

PvP is Movie's weaker mu, but he has been playing better and better lately. His shuttle control is getting really good as well.

Ace -> sKyHigh/Movie > anybody.
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RaiSad
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States325 Posts
October 31 2009 00:52 GMT
#48
I love second poll! GO sAviOr!
LorD_PaLmersToN
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada375 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 01:08:26
October 31 2009 00:58 GMT
#49
oh man, it wont happen but (Z)sAviOr vs (T)NaDa ace match would be super kick ass.(Given it would be better if they were as good as they used to be, but it would still be Nice to see)


+ Show Spoiler +
P.S go watch the (Z)sAviOr vs (T)UpMaGiC game the other day if you have not all ready!

yeh..
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 31 2009 01:00 GMT
#50
Shine
Skyhigh
Roro
Movie
Effort/skyhigh
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 01:00:28
October 31 2009 01:00 GMT
#51
Iris < Shine
sKyHigh < Mind
sAviOr < RorO

WeMade FOX 3:0 CJ Entus

You read it here first !
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SplashbackFerret
Profile Joined October 2009
New Zealand846 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 01:17:31
October 31 2009 01:15 GMT
#52
(T)Iris < Tornado > (Z)Shine[kaL]
(T)Iris hasn't been performing well lately.

(T)sKyHigh < Moon Glaive > (T)Mind
Only (T)Flash is better than (T)sKyHigh in TvT (imo)

(Z)sAviOr < Heartbreak Ridge > (Z)RorO
(Z)RorO was the worst anti-team choice ever.

(P)Movie < Fighting Spirit > (P)Pure
It's a toss-up (get it?)

Closer: The head coaches will fistfight on stage.
Splashy the Splashback Awareness Ferret
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 01:16 GMT
#53
On October 31 2009 09:58 LorD_PaLmersToN wrote:
oh man, it wont happen but (Z)sAviOr vs (T)NaDa ace match would be super kick ass.(Given it would be better if they were as good as they used to be, but it would still be Nice to see)


+ Show Spoiler +
P.S go watch the (Z)sAviOr vs (T)UpMaGiC game the other day if you have not all ready!



They are better than they ever were. sAviOr is twice as good as he was in 2006, it's just other players are soooooo much better that it makes them look awful by comparison.
RIP Aaliyah
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
October 31 2009 02:07 GMT
#54
On October 29 2009 22:34 Heimatloser wrote:

Second set easily goes to the (T)Mind, sKyHighs games lately are just too mindless


I... see what you did there...
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 31 2009 02:12 GMT
#55
Predicting:

(T)Iris < (Z)Shine
(T)sKyHigh > (T)Mind
(Z)sAviOr > (Z)RorO
(P)Movie > (P)Pure

He will destroy everyone in 2009 (two months of DESTRUCTION left!!!)
[TLMS] REBOOT
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
October 31 2009 02:19 GMT
#56
Oh man, I wish I wasn't doing something this afternoon, this match looks epic!
u gotta sk8
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 02:23 GMT
#57
On October 31 2009 10:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 09:58 LorD_PaLmersToN wrote:
oh man, it wont happen but (Z)sAviOr vs (T)NaDa ace match would be super kick ass.(Given it would be better if they were as good as they used to be, but it would still be Nice to see)


+ Show Spoiler +
P.S go watch the (Z)sAviOr vs (T)UpMaGiC game the other day if you have not all ready!



They are better than they ever were. sAviOr is twice as good as he was in 2006, it's just other players are soooooo much better that it makes them look awful by comparison.


I'd like to quote this because he is 100% right.
sAviOr...
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
October 31 2009 02:31 GMT
#58
If iris loses again, i'll lmao and go on saying how much iris sucks and how he completely betrayed my trust and net me no points in fpl.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
October 31 2009 02:46 GMT
#59
On October 31 2009 11:23 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 10:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2009 09:58 LorD_PaLmersToN wrote:
oh man, it wont happen but (Z)sAviOr vs (T)NaDa ace match would be super kick ass.(Given it would be better if they were as good as they used to be, but it would still be Nice to see)


+ Show Spoiler +
P.S go watch the (Z)sAviOr vs (T)UpMaGiC game the other day if you have not all ready!



They are better than they ever were. sAviOr is twice as good as he was in 2006, it's just other players are soooooo much better that it makes them look awful by comparison.


I'd like to quote this because he is 100% right.


Which one?

Cause it's not really all that simple. Savior's ZvZ is better now even though he's terrible relative to the much stronger competition but that's where it ends. I'd say Savior's ZvT in Shinhan 3 was far better than any other Zerg ever vs bio openings but that will provoke massive resistance and the proof would need to be in the form of 2 long articles so let's just say for now that he's garbage now compared to what he used to be. Savior's ZvP in 2007 is also kind of tricky to say one way or another given the strategy advancement but regardless Savior was 100x better before getting 0-3ed by Bisu in series play in ZvT/ZvP than now.

Watch Savior/Nada Heritage (especially that Python game oh jeez) then compare that to Shinhan 3 finals. They're so much worse now in every aspect except muta micro/muta defense you'd never realize they were the same players. It's really sad to see but keeping one's top form is extraordinarily hard, so not all too surprising

p.s cam why no mafia?
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
October 31 2009 02:50 GMT
#60
can't underestimate shine and roro, eventhough i'd like to
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 31 2009 02:53 GMT
#61
3-1
saviors probably gonna drop his but he could always step up his ZvZ nvr know
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 31 2009 02:57 GMT
#62
Savior! I believe!
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OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
October 31 2009 03:04 GMT
#63
GO shine[kal]!
or actually, iris is on my FPL team too so... GO EITHER TEAM!
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 03:11:20
October 31 2009 03:09 GMT
#64
On October 31 2009 11:46 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 11:23 Camlito wrote:
On October 31 2009 10:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2009 09:58 LorD_PaLmersToN wrote:
oh man, it wont happen but (Z)sAviOr vs (T)NaDa ace match would be super kick ass.(Given it would be better if they were as good as they used to be, but it would still be Nice to see)


+ Show Spoiler +
P.S go watch the (Z)sAviOr vs (T)UpMaGiC game the other day if you have not all ready!



They are better than they ever were. sAviOr is twice as good as he was in 2006, it's just other players are soooooo much better that it makes them look awful by comparison.


I'd like to quote this because he is 100% right.


Which one?

Cause it's not really all that simple. Savior's ZvZ is better now even though he's terrible relative to the much stronger competition but that's where it ends. I'd say Savior's ZvT in Shinhan 3 was far better than any other Zerg ever vs bio openings but that will provoke massive resistance and the proof would need to be in the form of 2 long articles so let's just say for now that he's garbage now compared to what he used to be. Savior's ZvP in 2007 is also kind of tricky to say one way or another given the strategy advancement but regardless Savior was 100x better before getting 0-3ed by Bisu in series play in ZvT/ZvP than now.

Watch Savior/Nada Heritage (especially that Python game oh jeez) then compare that to Shinhan 3 finals. They're so much worse now in every aspect except muta micro/muta defense you'd never realize they were the same players. It's really sad to see but keeping one's top form is extraordinarily hard, so not all too surprising

p.s cam why no mafia?


I've had 2 long posts typed out, but i can't think my point through right now, i'll PM you it when i can think clearly.

I'll just say that ZvT is so much different, as Zergs have to go against Mech, Psuedo Mech, Fake Mech, 2 port wraith, all of these and more, along with more Economical Bio (14 cc/1 rax cc, never really 2 rax cc except on byzantium) and sAviOr does his usual greedy style to try and get even or ahead of the terran, but can't pull it off as his unit manouvreing and his general timing is off as terrans don't just do the same thing every game anymore, and are as smart or smarter in the matchup than savior.

Looking at MJYs' losses so far this season:

Vs Kal: Great game from both (Infernal said savior played really fucking good to me). Savior simply forgot to put ovies in 2 key spots, and lost because of that delay.

Vs Hyvaa: Hyvaa went speed + lair overgas, over 2 hatch overgas, and stopped saviors lings from doing anything, therefore forcing savior to not be ahead on the ground, or the air, only in larva and worker count, and hyvaa had alot of workers himself. Hyvaa then abused modern muta micro and sAviOr looked like crap and ended up making himself look worse (2 evos?)

Vs Flash: Flash 14 cc'ed and delayed savior a minute. What zerg would win vs that?


Yet, whenever he loses a game, half the people shout "Retire" or "savior is so bad", instead of analyzing the game like they should. That's why i respect you pointing out that savior and nada seem WORSE at ZvT/TvZ than then, and give a clear reason why. However they are not worse, they just don't adapt as good as they used to or are unique enough to stand out in the sea of quality terrans and zergs nowadays.

Also, i don't have time for mafia really, and with the all-star games, everyone pretty much analyzes everything to death, and i'm more of a clue-getter than analyzer of character.
sAviOr...
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2009 03:53 GMT
#65
Please stop being useless Iris...
Spanxxx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States408 Posts
October 31 2009 04:04 GMT
#66
anyone streaming or am i watching the oz/ace match tonight?
If people arent trying to pull you down, you arent climbing high enough.
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
October 31 2009 04:07 GMT
#67
On October 31 2009 13:04 Spanxxx wrote:
anyone streaming or am i watching the oz/ace match tonight?

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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:07 GMT
#68
go iris!
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Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
October 31 2009 04:09 GMT
#69
On October 31 2009 13:07 KP_CollectoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 13:04 Spanxxx wrote:
anyone streaming or am i watching the oz/ace match tonight?


;)))))))))
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 04:09 GMT
#70
http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/mbclive-uusee.html works like always, uusee required
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KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
October 31 2009 04:10 GMT
#71
someone lr plz then
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 31 2009 04:10 GMT
#72
http://www.livestream.com/Challera
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:13 GMT
#73
On October 31 2009 13:10 Caller wrote:
http://www.livestream.com/Challera


thx!
BW is back
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 31 2009 04:13 GMT
#74
On October 31 2009 13:09 Crazazyasian1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 13:07 KP_CollectoR wrote:
On October 31 2009 13:04 Spanxxx wrote:
anyone streaming or am i watching the oz/ace match tonight?



stop asking for streams
POGGERS
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
October 31 2009 04:14 GMT
#75
anyone got a working stream?
fuck lag
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 31 2009 04:15 GMT
#76
On October 31 2009 13:14 ZidaneTribal wrote:
anyone got a working stream?

Read the page you're posting on. It's full though. So start spam clicking to get in.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
October 31 2009 04:15 GMT
#77
http://c.zeroboy.net/orange_tv

dont know if it will buffer :s
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
October 31 2009 04:15 GMT
#78
if ogn accounts works for most, why dont you dont stream mbc so we get both streams running.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:18:27
October 31 2009 04:18 GMT
#79
I predict CJ Entus will win 3-0.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:18 GMT
#80
ninja expo for shine
BW is back
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 31 2009 04:19 GMT
#81
On October 31 2009 13:15 below66 wrote:
if ogn accounts works for most, why dont you dont stream mbc so we get both streams running.

Wanna stream yourself? There's a reason why OGN streams are easier to get up and running than MBC.
God Bless
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
October 31 2009 04:20 GMT
#82
On October 31 2009 13:15 below66 wrote:
if ogn accounts works for most, why dont you dont stream mbc so we get both streams running.

think it's easy guy?
Spanxxx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States408 Posts
October 31 2009 04:20 GMT
#83
On October 31 2009 13:10 Caller wrote:
http://www.livestream.com/Challera


ty <3
If people arent trying to pull you down, you arent climbing high enough.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:21 GMT
#84
slow drop by shine =(
BW is back
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:22:12
October 31 2009 04:21 GMT
#85
Iris looks like he's in deep trouble.

Also, fuck foo fighters. Seriously, could these ads be any more intrusive?
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 04:21 GMT
#86
Nice tank snipe by Shine
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:23:43
October 31 2009 04:23 GMT
#87
here comes another drop

edit: false alarm
BW is back
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 04:24 GMT
#88
ROFLMAO 12 KILL MUTALISK
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
October 31 2009 04:24 GMT
#89
oh
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2009 04:24 GMT
#90
So many lurkers...
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
October 31 2009 04:26 GMT
#91
I question Shine's judgment there.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2009 04:26 GMT
#92
Wow, Iris did better than I expected in that battle.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:26 GMT
#93
they traded armies, bad thing for iris now
BW is back
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 04:26 GMT
#94
WOW FAIL BY SHINE. LOST SOOOOOO MANY LURKERS
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
October 31 2009 04:26 GMT
#95
holy shit
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
October 31 2009 04:27 GMT
#96
I think the obs missed the bottom half of Iris's army. I initially thought he was going to get raped.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:27 GMT
#97
iris is mined out
BW is back
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2009 04:28 GMT
#98
Iris needs to hurt Shine's economy soon or he'll be overrun.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
October 31 2009 04:28 GMT
#99
but iris is mined out and there's no place to expand, shine took his nearby expansion lol
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 04:28 GMT
#100
wait, how did Iris mine out his nat before his main? and if Iris doesnt expand really soon hes going to starve
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:31:39
October 31 2009 04:28 GMT
#101
God, (T)Iris is so bad these days.

Every time (Z)Shine wins, a little bit of my soul breaks off and sinks into the Atlantic.
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:29 GMT
#102
On October 31 2009 13:28 Chen wrote:
wait, how did Iris mine out his nat before his main? and if Iris doesnt expand really soon hes going to starve


he spent a lot of time not mining his main when shine slow dropped him
BW is back
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 31 2009 04:30 GMT
#103
any one know how to block the foo fighter adds?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
October 31 2009 04:32 GMT
#104
Iris not macroing well at all.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:32 GMT
#105
terrible play by iris, i wonder whats happening
BW is back
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 31 2009 04:34 GMT
#106
iris ggs
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:38:02
October 31 2009 04:37 GMT
#107
Why didn't Iris drop 3rd earlier?Dont tell me that he didnt know about it after drop -_-
I guess he didnt need constant vessels, 1 dropship wouldnt hurt,since he was wasting irraditate on OLs and hydras lol

gg, really nice strat with the proxy 3rd and slow lurk drop from it
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gunsharp
Profile Joined November 2007
260 Posts
October 31 2009 04:39 GMT
#108
If Skyhigh loses, my all CJ team is royally screwed.
DefectiveGnome
Profile Joined November 2008
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:42:55
October 31 2009 04:42 GMT
#109
Nevermind
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:42 GMT
#110
if skyhigh loses, all my hope is lost
BW is back
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 04:43 GMT
#111
Neither player played well, disappointing game.
RIP Aaliyah
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 04:43 GMT
#112
iris is so worth his 1 point fml
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:47:21
October 31 2009 04:44 GMT
#113
On October 31 2009 13:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Neither player played well, disappointing game.


I know positively that (Z)Shine[KaL] is a garbage player, but I can't prove it... He's been winning games recently, and it's so annoying.

On October 31 2009 13:43 hyst.eric.al wrote:
iris is so worth his 1 point fml


He's given, what, two points so far? So yeah, he's doubled his cost!

...

...

(-_-)
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:46:38
October 31 2009 04:45 GMT
#114
[image loading]

:-(
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2009 04:47 GMT
#115
On October 31 2009 13:43 hyst.eric.al wrote:
iris is so worth his 1 point fml

I so wish that I went with Ruby instead of Iris. t_t
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 31 2009 04:47 GMT
#116
Shine has won every Bo3 in the fall OSL and MSL and prelims :D
I think that counts for something.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 31 2009 04:47 GMT
#117
On October 31 2009 13:44 tree.hugger wrote:
I know positively that (Z)Shine[KaL] is a garbage player, but I can't prove it... He's been winning games recently, and it's so annoying.

I know exactly what you mean.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 04:48 GMT
#118
Mind outmicroing Skyhigh so much its almost not funny.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 31 2009 04:48 GMT
#119
Iris is just so streaky. I'm thinking he'll be on fire in one of the later rounds... but which one? I'll probably continue trying him out if 1pointers feel necessary on my team, just in case.
Oh, my eSports
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:48 GMT
#120
On October 31 2009 13:47 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 13:43 hyst.eric.al wrote:
iris is so worth his 1 point fml

I so wish that I went with Ruby instead of Iris. t_t


i had ruby on my team, but switched in the end for iris

ow, the regret...
BW is back
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
October 31 2009 04:49 GMT
#121
Shine has been beating everyone lately and theres no real explanation for it
the last wcs commissioner
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 31 2009 04:50 GMT
#122
On October 31 2009 13:49 tedster wrote:
Shine has been beating everyone lately and theres no real explanation for it


You could throw a few other zerg names in that sentence in place of Shine, too.
Oh, my eSports
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:50:40
October 31 2009 04:50 GMT
#123
On October 31 2009 13:48 Chen wrote:
Mind outmicroing Skyhigh so much its almost not funny.


Except, (T)sKyHigh will take it, because he prevented greater damage from happening. Not an issue.

The fact that sKyHigh had to lift his expo is an issue.
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JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
October 31 2009 04:51 GMT
#124
On October 31 2009 13:30 StorrZerg wrote:
any one know how to block the foo fighter adds?


If you are using firefox do the following:
Download the Adblock and the Adblock Plus add on the official homepage.
After you install it go on your settings/adblock plus
and add http://cdn.livestream.com/events to the list. This will block all those ads on livestream, including the annoying foo fighters one.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 04:52 GMT
#125
Jesus christ, dont tell me its going to be 3-0
unless you believe in savior's zvz
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 04:53 GMT
#126
Come on SkyHigh !
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2009 04:53 GMT
#127
I just realized that Eff0rt is probably at the IEF and won't be playing if it gets to ace...
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 04:53 GMT
#128
Skyhigh gettting his ass handed to him. Loses all his tanks and his feeble counter is getting raped.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 31 2009 04:54 GMT
#129
(T)Mind force out of (T)sKyHigh's nat, but he's still within siege range of the cc.

sKyHigh has a one goliath drop as his answer. This is looking terrible.
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:54 GMT
#130
skyhigh loses the cc, the situation is looking really bad now
BW is back
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 04:56:15
October 31 2009 04:55 GMT
#131
OOHHHHHHH! AMAZING MINE PICKUP BY (T)sKyHigh!

(Even if it is in what looks to be a losing effort)

EDIT; Yeah, gg.
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saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
October 31 2009 04:55 GMT
#132
And Mind rapes skyhigh!
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 04:55 GMT
#133
Pop goes the CC. they need savior to win a ZvZ now to even have a shot.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
October 31 2009 04:55 GMT
#134
GG from skyhigh
It's all up to Savior now
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 04:55 GMT
#135
skyhigh gg's, CJ is doing pretty bad lately
=(
BW is back
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 31 2009 04:56 GMT
#136
On October 31 2009 13:55 Chen wrote:
Pop goes the CC. they need savior to win a ZvZ now to even have a shot.

bye bye CJ T_T
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 31 2009 04:56 GMT
#137
Trading away Kwanro was apparently a bad idea.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 31 2009 04:56 GMT
#138
lol why they sent savior instead of effort, not even god knows
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 04:56 GMT
#139
sKyHigh
sAviOr...
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 31 2009 04:56 GMT
#140
On October 31 2009 13:56 .risingdragoon wrote:
lol why they sent savior instead of effort, not even god knows

Effort has IEF tonight.
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
October 31 2009 04:57 GMT
#141
On October 31 2009 13:56 .risingdragoon wrote:
lol why they sent savior instead of effort, not even god knows


Well for today they can't really sned Effort because he's at the IEF right now.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 04:57 GMT
#142
On October 31 2009 13:56 .risingdragoon wrote:
lol why they sent savior instead of effort, not even god knows


IEF? Read the thread?
sAviOr...
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 31 2009 04:57 GMT
#143
And some people has claimed that this guy has as good TvT as Flash?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
October 31 2009 04:57 GMT
#144
aaaaaahg, wtf CJ? I have both Iris and Movie on my fantasy PL.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 04:57 GMT
#145
On October 31 2009 13:56 .risingdragoon wrote:
lol why they sent savior instead of effort, not even god knows

god doesnt, but i do
efort's at ief
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 04:58 GMT
#146
On October 31 2009 13:57 Holgerius wrote:
And some people has claimed that this guy has as good TvT as Flash?


1 Loss doesn't change that. he's still 2nd/3rd best TvT (not as good as flash in my opinion though, at all.)

Don't need to try and be smug about it.
sAviOr...
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
October 31 2009 04:58 GMT
#147
On (Z)October 31 2009 13:56 Nevuk wrote:
Trading away (Z)Kwanro was apparently a bad idea.


Does trading (Z)Kwanro away cause (T)Iris and (T)sKyHigh to fail in proleague?
I don't think its a problem with trading (Z)Kwanro away, the problem for CJ is the (T)sKyHigh isn't doing as well as he did (T)Last season.
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
October 31 2009 04:58 GMT
#148
FUCK MY LIQUID BET, should have bet my own team rofl...
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:01:23
October 31 2009 04:58 GMT
#149
yea, cus they sent him there

they could've maybe not send him, then maybe they'd stand a chance

3-0 incoming
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 31 2009 04:58 GMT
#150
(Z)sAviOr > (Z)RorO
(P)Movie > (P)Pure
(Z)sAviOr/(T)sKyHigh/(P)Movie > WhoEver

Otherwise I'm seriously screwed in fantasy PL and liquibet... =/
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
gunsharp
Profile Joined November 2007
260 Posts
October 31 2009 04:58 GMT
#151
WTF I traded Hyuk for you Skyhigh! I suck at Fantasy.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:03:01
October 31 2009 05:00 GMT
#152
On October 31 2009 13:57 Holgerius wrote:
And some people has claimed that this guy has as good TvT as Flash?


Ridiculous! Especially with (T)Flash's lifetime TvT record of 118-0, it's ridiculous to say that (T)sKyHigh has good TvT. I mean, he LOST!

...
.
(Z)sAviOr time. Watch (Z)EffOrt run, breathless into the studio if it gets to ACE... with all of the IEF tourney behind him.

ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 31 2009 05:00 GMT
#153
So the only terran being able to defend a 2fac push is Flash.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 31 2009 05:01 GMT
#154
Btw. is there any other stream than orange.tv?
It's laggy as hell today.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
October 31 2009 05:03 GMT
#155
On October 31 2009 13:56 .risingdragoon wrote:
lol why they sent savior instead of effort, not even god knows


Apparently there're a lot of gods..

No worries Savior shall turn this around!
Xellos <3
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:04:15
October 31 2009 05:03 GMT
#156
On October 31 2009 14:01 Mooncat wrote:
Btw. is there any other stream than orange.tv?
It's laggy as hell today.

It's the best there is for MBC. It's really hard to get a stream for MBC.
There's the chinese buy stream, but it needs UUSEE and it also lags sometimes. It's also 2 minutes behind.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 05:04 GMT
#157
On October 31 2009 14:01 Mooncat wrote:
Btw. is there any other stream than orange.tv?
It's laggy as hell today.


Yeah, mine, callers, etc. Check the op please. There are several streams.
RIP Aaliyah
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 31 2009 05:04 GMT
#158
On October 31 2009 14:03 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:01 Mooncat wrote:
Btw. is there any other stream than orange.tv?
It's laggy as hell today.

It's the best there is for MBC. It's really hard to get a stream for MBC.
There's the chinese buy stream, but it needs UUSEE and it also lags sometimes. It's also 2 minutes behind.


But it's still laggy, even though he has switched to OGN for now...
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 05:07 GMT
#159
roro is a mediocre ZvZ, but he won his last 6 zvz's...

ow well, i hope savior wins
BW is back
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 31 2009 05:07 GMT
#160
On October 31 2009 14:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:01 Mooncat wrote:
Btw. is there any other stream than orange.tv?
It's laggy as hell today.


Yeah, mine, callers, etc. Check the op please. There are several streams.


Ah, thx. Missed them beneath the spoiler tag :>
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
October 31 2009 05:07 GMT
#161
On October 31 2009 14:03 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:01 Mooncat wrote:
Btw. is there any other stream than orange.tv?
It's laggy as hell today.

It's the best there is for MBC. It's really hard to get a stream for MBC.
There's the chinese buy stream, but it needs UUSEE and it also lags sometimes. It's also 2 minutes behind.



I've actually found myself preferring the Chinese stream for MBC. The video quality isn't bad, it never lags for me, and I don't mind being two minutes behind, as long as I don't spoil myself looking at the thread. While listening to the Koreans talk about the game is soothing, in the end, I don't understand a word of it, so I just mute the Chinese guy, and have the Terran Theme on repeat.

I greatly appreciate people streaming, but unfortunately the last few times I've tried to watch a stream, it was tremendously laggy.
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 05:07 GMT
#162
My stream isn't lagging. It's in english, but it works. So tune into that if you need to.
RIP Aaliyah
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 05:07 GMT
#163
savior better win
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 05:07 GMT
#164
On October 31 2009 14:03 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:01 Mooncat wrote:
Btw. is there any other stream than orange.tv?
It's laggy as hell today.

It's the best there is for MBC. It's really hard to get a stream for MBC.
There's the chinese buy stream, but it needs UUSEE and it also lags sometimes. It's also 2 minutes behind.

uusee never lags, chinese guy is annoying tho
but who the hell needs sound
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 31 2009 05:09 GMT
#165
OK, that's it. I am getting rid of Iris.

SAVIOR FIGHTING, THIS IS 2009!
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:10:32
October 31 2009 05:09 GMT
#166
Roro overgas vs sAviOr 12 hatch?

Please don't turn this into another spore and eventually lose game, MJY.

Edit: 12 pool expo from Roro i think, BO Advantage sAvior, don't fuck it up.
sAviOr...
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 05:10 GMT
#167
savior i promise that if you win this i wont laugh at your zvz for a while
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
October 31 2009 05:11 GMT
#168
DoctorHelvetica thanks for the stream & live reporting bro.
Xellos <3
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 05:11 GMT
#169
On October 31 2009 14:10 Itachii wrote:
savior i promise that if you win this i wont laugh at your zvz for a while


"for a while" haha.
sAviOr...
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 05:12 GMT
#170
"Ah Sensuu" stated the commentator.
sAviOr...
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
October 31 2009 05:12 GMT
#171
Which one is Savior?
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:15:43
October 31 2009 05:13 GMT
#172
(Z)sAviOr wins the zergling battle!!!! Screwing with (Z)RorO's econ...

sAviOr at a severe muta disadvantage though.

EDIT: Lol, not anymore.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
October 31 2009 05:13 GMT
#173
YES YES YES YES
Moderator<:3-/-<
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 05:13 GMT
#174
OMFG CAN SAVIOR WIN A ZVZ, NO WAY, LINGS KILL SUNKS AND ARE CAUSING HAVOC IN MAIN
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 05:13 GMT
#175
MA JAE YOOOON!

Runs in and owns sunks + lings, cleaning up alot of drones.

He has his spire up, if i see through lag.
sAviOr...
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 05:13 GMT
#176
MJY!!!!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2009 05:14 GMT
#177
Please win Savior. Roro is on my antiteam. t_t
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 31 2009 05:14 GMT
#178
Between this and the ace game, this is the craziest day of proleague ever.
Remember Violet.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:15:07
October 31 2009 05:14 GMT
#179
Smart choice for Evo considering advantage

edit: GG Ma Jae Yoon cleans up Roros last attack with mutas.

WeMade 2-1 CJ
sAviOr...
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 05:14 GMT
#180
HOLY SHITTT!!!!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 31 2009 05:14 GMT
#181
2009. Ez.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:15:14
October 31 2009 05:14 GMT
#182
SAVIOR WONNN
RORO GEEEGEEE'S

CJ EPIC COMEBACK STARTS NOW!
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 05:14 GMT
#183
SAVIOR WINS A ZVZ WTF?!?!?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#184
FUCK YEAH SAVIORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
POGGERS
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#185
Holy fuck, Savior is actually looking pretty good lately.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#186
so glad i traded him off antiteam this week!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#187
SAVIOR!!!!!
Brood War loyalist
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#188
YESSSS!!! Savior wins!!!
this is my quote.
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#189
savior keeps it alive!
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#190
savior \o/
BW is back
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#191
roro was destroyed in 2009
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 05:15 GMT
#192
uusee is behind, iam watching this rampage for 2nd time now ^_^
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 05:16 GMT
#193
looks like he stole jaedong's zvz.

heir of heir apparent is apparent.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
October 31 2009 05:16 GMT
#194
WeMade team trying to comfort Roro, but he was DESTROYED by savior in 2009
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
October 31 2009 05:16 GMT
#195
SAVIOR!!!!
Xellos <3
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 31 2009 05:16 GMT
#196
Savior knows how to save his team!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
October 31 2009 05:16 GMT
#197
Time for (P)Movie in his worst matchup to save the day for CJ!
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 31 2009 05:16 GMT
#198
DOMINANCE!
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
October 31 2009 05:16 GMT
#199
You know, if savior gets over how good he used to be and finds the motivation to practice and as a result starts owning again, that'd be pretty cool.

Yeah.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 05:17 GMT
#200
yes, we can aways count on you savior!
BW is back
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:18:51
October 31 2009 05:17 GMT
#201
Damn that sKyHigh loss is hurting. (P)Movie's PvP isn't as decent as (P)Pure's. Another uphill battle in this next game.

I've had this strange tendency to get the first post on a new page recently.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 31 2009 05:17 GMT
#202
On October 31 2009 14:16 integral wrote:
You know, if savior gets over how good he used to be and finds the motivation to practice and as a result starts owning again, that'd be pretty cool.

Yeah.


yeah he clearly has the skill, sense and talent to
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
October 31 2009 05:18 GMT
#203
WAHHHHHHHH FEI CHANG PIAO LIANG!!! Movie do this yoooo.
KT_Violet
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 05:18 GMT
#204
On October 31 2009 13:58 .risingdragoon wrote:
yea, cus they sent him there

they could've maybe not send him, then maybe they'd stand a chance

3-0 incoming


hello
sAviOr...
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
October 31 2009 05:18 GMT
#205
so many predictions were wrong! AHAHAHHAHAHA
<3 sAviOr!!!!!
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 05:18 GMT
#206
On October 31 2009 14:17 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:16 integral wrote:
You know, if savior gets over how good he used to be and finds the motivation to practice and as a result starts owning again, that'd be pretty cool.

Yeah.


yeah he clearly has the skill, sense and talent to

its motherfucking savior, what are you guys talking about
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
October 31 2009 05:18 GMT
#207
oh yeah, pure's gonna lose so that we can see nada vs savior in ace
Oppa feeding style
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
October 31 2009 05:18 GMT
#208
On October 31 2009 14:16 r33k wrote:
Time for (P)Movie in his worst matchup to save the day for CJ!



Keep in mind he has a 3 game winstreak against Toss.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
gunsharp
Profile Joined November 2007
260 Posts
October 31 2009 05:19 GMT
#209
savior schooled him hard
gunsharp
Profile Joined November 2007
260 Posts
October 31 2009 05:19 GMT
#210
On October 31 2009 14:18 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:16 r33k wrote:
Time for (P)Movie in his worst matchup to save the day for CJ!



Keep in mind he has a 3 game winstreak against Toss.


Pure is pretty terrible at pvp also. Should be a game of who plays less bad.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
October 31 2009 05:20 GMT
#211
\o/ SaviOr!
Moderator<:3-/-<
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
October 31 2009 05:20 GMT
#212
Well that was unexpected yet refreshing. Savior with good zvz decision making? Wayyy out of place
Liquipedia
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
October 31 2009 05:21 GMT
#213
sAviOr with great zergling timing, just ruined his economy. Right ON the muta timing. Dirty Dirty stuff.

After all money was spent, on moprhing eggs, the lings come and own you. Thats evil.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
October 31 2009 05:21 GMT
#214
Movie for ace pls.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
October 31 2009 05:21 GMT
#215
Come on Movie, take it to ACE.
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 05:22 GMT
#216
On October 31 2009 14:20 Ver wrote:
Well that was unexpected yet refreshing. Savior with good zvz decision making? Wayyy out of place


Saviors only proleague wins so far are ZvZ...

o_O? Maybe he can atleast become respectable at it again.
sAviOr...
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
October 31 2009 05:22 GMT
#217
It's still 2009 for a while longer, commence the destruction of everyone!
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
October 31 2009 05:25 GMT
#218
Savior !! I still beleive in you.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 31 2009 05:25 GMT
#219
rematch of estars heritage finals for ace please
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
October 31 2009 05:26 GMT
#220
LET'S DO THIS MOVIE!
Xellos <3
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 05:26 GMT
#221
cmon movie, show us how bad ass you are
BW is back
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 05:27 GMT
#222
pure scouting in the wrong direction = MOVIE VICTORY!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 31 2009 05:27 GMT
#223
i like how we get a PvP on a protoss graveyard (if this is the map i think it is)
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 05:27 GMT
#224
movie you one sexy mofo, focus and take this to ace for the sake of me being in the top 1000 of FPL
man ill never again rely on 1 team in it
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2009 05:28 GMT
#225
On October 31 2009 14:27 jalstar wrote:
i like how we get a PvP on a protoss graveyard (if this is the map i think it is)

This map is actually decent for 'toss.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:29:30
October 31 2009 05:29 GMT
#226
On October 31 2009 14:28 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:27 jalstar wrote:
i like how we get a PvP on a protoss graveyard (if this is the map i think it is)

This map is actually decent for 'toss.


i was thinking of tornado, my bad
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 05:33 GMT
#227
i hate pvp, such a lame matchup...
BW is back
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:34:11
October 31 2009 05:33 GMT
#228
(P)Movie loses his reaver, barely misses sniping (P)Pure's reaver. Looking bad for Movie.

Pure will settle for a contain...
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 05:34 GMT
#229
Wow Movie fails so hard -.-his push down the ramp fails pretty badly.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:36:42
October 31 2009 05:35 GMT
#230
(P)Movie loses his second reaver pushing out. Goddammit.

(P)Pure has been up a base for a while now.

Movie finally escapes with the help of his third reaver. Pure had only one reaver at the scene, and two slowly crawling along at his base.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 05:36 GMT
#231
WOW, WAY TO DROP YOUR REAVER INTO GOONS WITH NO COVER. 2 base vs 1, Movie is dead.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:37:38
October 31 2009 05:37 GMT
#232
(P)Movie's army is rolled in the field, (P)Pure moving in this time.

GG.

Damn.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
WhiteNights
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States252 Posts
October 31 2009 05:37 GMT
#233
feeds all the probes
May your sky be always clear, may your smile be always bright, and may you be forever blessed for that moment of happiness which you gave to another lonely and grateful heart!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 31 2009 05:37 GMT
#234
CJ is worse than KT, poor Savior.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 05:37 GMT
#235
movie nervus or what?unable to micro shuttle upramp vs few goons and focus fire in 5v5 or something
what the hell
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 31 2009 05:37 GMT
#236
sAviOr: "Fucking skilless newbies"
POGGERS
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:40:27
October 31 2009 05:38 GMT
#237
OUCH EFFORT WHY DO U GOTTA GO AT A TIME LIKE THIS
Xellos <3
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:39:35
October 31 2009 05:38 GMT
#238
Savior the only one that took a game off of WeMade, what's the world coming to?

On October 31 2009 14:37 konadora wrote:
sAviOr: "Fucking skilless newbies"


So he's been practicing with IdrA, eh ?
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 05:38 GMT
#239
omfg if only grandpa toss was around
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 31 2009 05:38 GMT
#240
Well, that's that. Movie failed to deliver once again.

Seriously though, I always thought of him as one of the most promising new toss on the scene.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
October 31 2009 05:38 GMT
#241
Hmm.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 31 2009 05:39 GMT
#242
i missed the first 3 matches... HOLY FUCK SAVIOR WON A ZvZ
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 31 2009 05:39 GMT
#243
On October 31 2009 14:38 iloveHieu wrote:
OUCH EFFORT WHY DO GOTTA GO AT A TIME LIKE THIS


Savior was a good substitute for Effort, the others ruined it.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 31 2009 05:39 GMT
#244
Savior for CJ second ace player, guys.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
October 31 2009 05:40 GMT
#245
ㅠ_ㅠ CJ you make me so sad lately ...

Movie once again shows his PvP is really lacking.
Moderator
L_P_Monix
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia157 Posts
October 31 2009 05:40 GMT
#246
happy that savior won. what is up with skyhigh!? kids been losing EVERYTHING lately
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 31 2009 05:40 GMT
#247
[image loading]


cya in round 2, no more CJ -_-
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 31 2009 05:40 GMT
#248
It's weird to see the only win for CJ coming from Savior.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 31 2009 05:40 GMT
#249
CJ, movie, skyhigh and iris in my fantasy team...

well, i have to think about next season. I'm sad CJ is failing so hard
BW is back
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 31 2009 05:40 GMT
#250
On October 31 2009 14:40 Itachii wrote:
[image loading]


cya in round 2, no more CJ -_-


until Winner's League.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
October 31 2009 05:40 GMT
#251
Fuck -_- that was not piao liang.
KT_Violet
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:41:48
October 31 2009 05:40 GMT
#252
On October 31 2009 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
Well, that's that. Movie failed to deliver once again.

Seriously though, I always thought of him as one of the most promising new toss on the scene.



He is, it's just that his PvP isn't as good as Jangbi's, Bisu, Stork, or Best. PvP is a work in progess for Movie.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 31 2009 05:42 GMT
#253
On October 31 2009 14:40 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
Well, that's that. Movie failed to deliver once again.

Seriously though, I always thought of him as one of the most promising new toss on the scene.



He is, it's just that his PvP isn't as good as Jangbi's, Bisu, Stork, or Best. PvP is a work in progess for Movie.


And Pure.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 31 2009 05:42 GMT
#254
On October 31 2009 14:40 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
Well, that's that. Movie failed to deliver once again.

Seriously though, I always thought of him as one of the most promising new toss on the scene.



He is, it's just that his PvP isn't as good as Jangbi's, Bisu, Stork, or Best.

Or guemchi or violet or pure or backho or horang2.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 31 2009 05:42 GMT
#255
You forgot to add pure to that list lol
gunsharp
Profile Joined November 2007
260 Posts
October 31 2009 05:43 GMT
#256
On October 31 2009 14:40 Itachii wrote:
[image loading]


cya in round 2, no more CJ -_-


I feel ya. I own Movie, Skyhigh, and Iris and got 0 points from them today. On the bright side, CJ didn't get 0-3 so I'm not losing points...
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
October 31 2009 05:45 GMT
#257
Savior is clearly the best on CJ.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 05:45 GMT
#258
On October 31 2009 14:42 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:40 FireGuyX wrote:
On October 31 2009 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
Well, that's that. Movie failed to deliver once again.

Seriously though, I always thought of him as one of the most promising new toss on the scene.



He is, it's just that his PvP isn't as good as Jangbi's, Bisu, Stork, or Best.

Or guemchi or violet or pure or backho or horang2.

you dare include backho in that list? you have obviously not seen his game vs Reach. to say he has even decent PvP after that.....
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 05:45 GMT
#259
: ((((((
RIP Aaliyah
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 05:48:17
October 31 2009 05:48 GMT
#260
On October 31 2009 14:45 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:42 Nevuk wrote:
On October 31 2009 14:40 FireGuyX wrote:
On October 31 2009 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
Well, that's that. Movie failed to deliver once again.

Seriously though, I always thought of him as one of the most promising new toss on the scene.



He is, it's just that his PvP isn't as good as Jangbi's, Bisu, Stork, or Best.

Or guemchi or violet or pure or backho or horang2.

you dare include backho in that list? you have obviously not seen his game vs Reach. to say he has even decent PvP after that.....

Reach has better PvP than movie. And reach played really really really well that game.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
October 31 2009 05:55 GMT
#261
wat.

how did savior win the only game..

not that i mind.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 31 2009 06:04 GMT
#262
dammit CJ lost!
Savior won!
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 31 2009 06:04 GMT
#263
Wtf. Of all people to win, Savior wins a zvz?!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 31 2009 06:05 GMT
#264
wow, WeMade continues to impress
✌
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 31 2009 06:05 GMT
#265
wemade's stomping ass this season

who expected that
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
October 31 2009 06:55 GMT
#266
Odd to see SkyHigh vs Mind as a "recommended game." It was as much Skyhigh playing like garbage as it was Mind playing intelligently.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 06:59 GMT
#267
On October 31 2009 15:55 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Odd to see SkyHigh vs Mind as a "recommended game." It was as much Skyhigh playing like garbage as it was Mind playing intelligently.


The games weren't that great, sAviOr's game is really the only one worth watching I guess.
RIP Aaliyah
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 07:04 GMT
#268
savior winning should ZvZ should be a reason to recommend it
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
gnr9292
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
90 Posts
October 31 2009 07:18 GMT
#269
why couldn't they choose effort as an entry nooooooooooooooo~
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 31 2009 07:25 GMT
#270
On October 31 2009 15:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:55 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Odd to see SkyHigh vs Mind as a "recommended game." It was as much Skyhigh playing like garbage as it was Mind playing intelligently.


The games weren't that great, sAviOr's game is really the only one worth watching I guess.

Did you change your team logo to CJ? I thought you were a KHAN dude ...

Looking forward to Savior's game VOD ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
October 31 2009 11:38 GMT
#271
This season´s overhyped CJ = huge FAIL.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
October 31 2009 12:08 GMT
#272
sAviOr won from playing really really well, not luck as most people would think from a ZvZ. He brought many lings while mutas were morphing, raping drones. It was as seemless a ZvZ as you're going to see.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
October 31 2009 12:14 GMT
#273
haha what, 1-3 with Savior of all people winning the only game, guess hes really doing loads better this season ;p
Movie ;<
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 12:15 GMT
#274
On October 31 2009 21:08 cUrsOr wrote:
sAviOr won from playing really really well, not luck as most people would think from a ZvZ. He brought many lings while mutas were morphing, raping drones. It was as seemless a ZvZ as you're going to see.


Yeh, he found 2 sets of hidden lings that were backstabbing, made lings/drones at the right times, timed the attack perfectly on natural and micro'd well, defended mutas perfectly with only mutas, and had a spore coming.

Other zvz's he wins he looks like crap, but the 2 he has won this season were both with great timing and aggression, instead of building up a muta clump and waiting for 20 minutes.
sAviOr...
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
October 31 2009 12:39 GMT
#275
On October 31 2009 14:38 hyst.eric.al wrote:
omfg if only grandpa toss was around


I'm afraid that's the real problem CJ is having. Skyhigh and Iris are important, and trading away Kwanro really puts the pressure on Savior to perform, and Movie is a really talented rookie, but it is experience and strategy they are lacking the most. Now I'm not sure if Much would've won this game against Pure, given that he's been in a slump as heavy as Killer's upcoming depression. But he would add some experience to the team, and he would take some pressure away from Movie (he's CJ ace for protoss already! Without anyone remotely close to backing him up...).

Besides that, Much has a talent that nearly the complete CJ team at the moment is lacking, and that is strategic play. Effort, Skyhigh, Movie, they are really great at harass and macro, but not so special with strategies. Much is one of the most unpredictable and effective strategic players out there, and with that he is pretty much (heh) all what CJ is missing right now.

On the other hand, Airforce Ace is on the way to the proleague finals with two CJ guys on the wings (if only Oversky was still around ).
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
lavion
Profile Joined September 2009
Singapore286 Posts
October 31 2009 12:59 GMT
#276
List of People destroyed by (Z)sAviOr in 2009

1. Kespa Ref
2. (P)GuemChi
3. (T)UpMaGiC
4. (Z)RorO

Flash for bonjwa
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 31 2009 13:42 GMT
#277
On October 31 2009 21:59 lavion wrote:
List of People destroyed by (Z)sAviOr in 2009

1. Kespa Ref
2. (P)GuemChi
3. (T)UpMaGiC
4. (Z)RorO



Look at whom Savior destroyed in February. There are some big names like Leta (back when he was super strong) and Bisu (MSL+Gom winner).
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
October 31 2009 13:46 GMT
#278
Fuck my life ... I get EVERY FPL point loss possible ... AND all my Liquibets are the EXACT opposite of the results today WTF!
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
October 31 2009 16:34 GMT
#279
only savior wins, but savior won!
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 16:40:10
October 31 2009 16:37 GMT
#280
Hahaha, my LB is on a losing streak due to all the recent upsets. I have dropped more than 300 places in less than a week. But Savior won! I am happy.

DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2009 18:11 GMT
#281
On October 31 2009 16:25 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:55 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Odd to see SkyHigh vs Mind as a "recommended game." It was as much Skyhigh playing like garbage as it was Mind playing intelligently.


The games weren't that great, sAviOr's game is really the only one worth watching I guess.

Did you change your team logo to CJ? I thought you were a KHAN dude ...

Looking forward to Savior's game VOD ...


I like both teams equally.
RIP Aaliyah
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 31 2009 18:14 GMT
#282
well gj savior at least.

Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 31 2009 18:18 GMT
#283
Oh man, this sucks! I want CJ to win it so Savior can celebrate with them!
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Pepsicolaone
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States967 Posts
October 31 2009 19:17 GMT
#284
oh well... but at least savior won
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equal.
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
October 31 2009 19:28 GMT
#285
Savior wins when everyone else loses. It's just like before!
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 21:15:02
October 31 2009 21:14 GMT
#286
The results make me happy. I traded CJ for WeMade 2 weeks ago in FPL.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 01 2009 16:43 GMT
#287
Sweet, sweet victory...
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 15:45:17
November 02 2009 15:44 GMT
#288
On November 02 2009 01:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Sweet, sweet victory...

Indeed

Was hoping for 3-0, slightly disappointing from (Z)RorO but whatever, he'll take (Z)Jaedong down again tonight ^^. Still don't understand why people are hating on (Z)Shine[kaL] all the time lol, the guy's been pretty sick for a while now.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 18:21:36
November 02 2009 18:20 GMT
#289
lol so weird

Even tough im a big CJ fan i'm so happy Savior won that I hardly mind the overall loss.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 02 2009 19:55 GMT
#290
On November 03 2009 03:20 Substandard wrote:
lol so weird

Even tough im a big CJ fan i'm so happy Savior won that I hardly mind the overall loss.


I feel the same lol.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
November 02 2009 20:22 GMT
#291
hahaha what is this opposite day

savior wins ZvZ skyhigh loses tvt??

HMM

still Gj wemade and savior
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 02 2009 20:44 GMT
#292
On November 03 2009 00:44 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 01:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Sweet, sweet victory...

Indeed

Was hoping for 3-0, slightly disappointing from (Z)RorO but whatever, he'll take (Z)Jaedong down again tonight ^^. Still don't understand why people are hating on (Z)Shine[kaL] all the time lol, the guy's been pretty sick for a while now.


He really didn't play well against Iris.
RIP Aaliyah
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
November 02 2009 21:07 GMT
#293
On November 03 2009 05:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 00:44 jello_biafra wrote:
On November 02 2009 01:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Sweet, sweet victory...

Indeed

Was hoping for 3-0, slightly disappointing from (Z)RorO but whatever, he'll take (Z)Jaedong down again tonight ^^. Still don't understand why people are hating on (Z)Shine[kaL] all the time lol, the guy's been pretty sick for a while now.


He really didn't play well against Iris.

Ok admittedly he didn't but he's taken down a lot of good players and I suspect he let his play get sloppy because he assumed he'd won for sure with his drop shenanigans.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 03 2009 07:07 GMT
#294
On November 03 2009 03:20 Substandard wrote:
lol so weird

Even tough im a big CJ fan i'm so happy Savior won that I hardly mind the overall loss.


i'm the opposite, cj first, savior second

so weird that cj is making savior a zvz specialist though, maybe it's unintentional
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
November 03 2009 07:14 GMT
#295
I'm with Jello... anything that builds up sAviOrs confidince is okay with me. I'd love to see him loving to play again, not getting that vibe quite yet.

Anyone interested in this match should scope the featured http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104201
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Aurioch
Profile Joined January 2009
United States414 Posts
November 03 2009 08:50 GMT
#296
Iris perhaps the biggest disappointment of the season thus far
My life for aiur
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 03 2009 21:04 GMT
#297
woah jesus. Skyhigh losing ANOTHER TvT
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