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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-11 05:56:08
November 11 2009 04:34 GMT
#161
sorry to bump the thread yet again with no real information, but Im sure people are more irritated by the general slowness of this tournament, please if anyone has any info on who smbk is or how i can get in contact with him post here or, even better, pm me.

People who played him for the tournament, the name he was on under iccup, anything! Any help appreciated.

edit; Found him, wooo.
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 11 2009 05:13 GMT
#162
Koven/Peavey do you ever plan on getting your match done? I think Koven is inactive or something... he hasn't even said anything in 3 weeks (unless he and matt organized something in the last few days)
sAviOr...
Hacksaw11
Profile Joined July 2008
Australia359 Posts
November 11 2009 06:28 GMT
#163
i hate nr20 players, scar is one of them LoLZ

whinging bitches, should just man it up and learn how to deal with randoms, just scout and adapt?

random have weakness too, all you can think is cheese cheese, go fuckin eat a chesse then ffs!!

i hadnt played since 2004 and scara is taking starcraft very seriously. i bet you pick paladins lol

- -
Predator_au
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia93 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-11 06:33:36
November 11 2009 06:31 GMT
#164
Only Del has access to update binary, but if you cannot contact ur opponent by now with REALISTIC attempts then i am happy to issue walk overs if you post here.

Please post who you are waiting for and we can then see if a walk over is due.
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-11 07:00:23
November 11 2009 06:42 GMT
#165
On November 11 2009 15:28 Stuyvesant wrote:
i hate nr20 players, scar is one of them LoLZ

whinging bitches, should just man it up and learn how to deal with randoms, just scout and adapt?

random have weakness too, all you can think is cheese cheese, go fuckin eat a chesse then ffs!!

i hadnt played since 2004 and scara is taking starcraft very seriously. i bet you pick paladins lol


Dude has this eaten you up, are you having trouble sleeping? you seam to care ALOT about this rofl :D
Thanks for the wins bro, your a nice guy

On November 10 2009 19:59 SoMuchBetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 19:12 RowdierBob wrote:
You'd think everyone has become so regimented by build orders they don't know how to actually play BW anymore but rather only execute build orders they've seen pros do.

its sad but i think this may be true. "back in my day" you'd be laughed out of a tournament if you complained about someone playing random.

I guess this isnt back in your day then

Edit, if the player was to announce his race at the start of the game i would have no problem with playing a random player, just don’t want to have to deal with early game poop
The reason people play sc is for fun right? how is it fun if you die or put at a disadvantage within the first 5 minuets due to the opponent playing random?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Hacksaw11
Profile Joined July 2008
Australia359 Posts
November 11 2009 07:09 GMT
#166
.. cos all your posts are all nr20 posts.. and it annoys me
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Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
November 11 2009 07:20 GMT
#167
Hisense_teevee could you announce the times you are free to play/when you plan to be online so I can message ThugztA for your bo1 game.

Sotanath could you announce the times you are free to play/when you plan to be online so the winner of ThugztA/Hisense_teevee can play you, and the winner of that to play myself.

Thanks.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
November 11 2009 07:38 GMT
#168
On November 11 2009 16:09 Stuyvesant wrote:
.. cos all your posts are all nr20 posts.. and it annoys me

So you have no argument? kkkk
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Lurgee
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia252 Posts
November 11 2009 08:19 GMT
#169
Guys can we please ban protoss from the tournament? I feel that they have an unfair advantage over other players, as you never know what is coming when you play one. It could be DT drop, it could be proxy gates, or it could be 14 nexus! It's just so unfair to play vs protoss, imo protoss players should "man up" and pick a fair race.

Unofficial poll as to whether or not protoss should be allowed:
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Poll: Allow picking protoss?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
DancerS_au
Profile Joined August 2004
Australia40 Posts
November 11 2009 08:26 GMT
#170
Just to let people (other admins) know i have my match scheduled with ttSeason (just[rm] iCCup ID) for tomorrow. We have already played 1 game out of the best of 3 yesterday. If X-Torpid reads this be on iCCup tomorrow night and you will be able to play the winner.
Lurgee
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia252 Posts
November 11 2009 08:27 GMT
#171
Tomorrow :S. I've got an exam the next day, but mbe friday? My iccup ID is hwru /f a me ;D.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-11 08:31:40
November 11 2009 08:29 GMT
#172
Guys, can we please ban Lurgee aka X-ToRpiD from the tournament. If you lose a game against him, he will not let you hear the end of it, and the psychological damage would not be worth the fun of playing in this tournament.

He also plays like a south american. We don't want that in australia.

UNOFFICIAL POLL (OR IS IT?)

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Poll: Ban X-ToRpiD from the tournament?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Yes
sAviOr...
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
November 11 2009 08:31 GMT
#173
On November 11 2009 17:26 DancerS_au wrote:
Just to let people (other admins) know i have my match scheduled with ttSeason (just[rm] iCCup ID) for tomorrow. We have already played 1 game out of the best of 3 yesterday. If X-Torpid reads this be on iCCup tomorrow night and you will be able to play the winner.


I'll be there to play the loser
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Wretchedness
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia12 Posts
November 11 2009 11:12 GMT
#174
Yo proxi.nape send me a PM or something for when you wanna play. I should be available any night for a game. Im currently moving house and on 3G prepaid so be prepared for a bit of lag.

By the way im Touchmyzerg on the brackets
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
November 11 2009 11:29 GMT
#175
On November 11 2009 16:20 Z.Kw wrote:
Hisense_teevee could you announce the times you are free to play/when you plan to be online so I can message ThugztA for your bo1 game.

Sotanath could you announce the times you are free to play/when you plan to be online so the winner of ThugztA/Hisense_teevee can play you, and the winner of that to play myself.

Thanks.


aka Sotanath, i'll keep checking this thread to see when those two are playing and be online then or will post soonest possible time following.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
November 11 2009 11:33 GMT
#176
On November 11 2009 16:20 Z.Kw wrote:
Hisense_teevee could you announce the times you are free to play/when you plan to be online so I can message ThugztA for your bo1 game.

Sotanath could you announce the times you are free to play/when you plan to be online so the winner of ThugztA/Hisense_teevee can play you, and the winner of that to play myself.

Thanks.



I can play anytime at night during weekdays mon - thur
bisu fanboy
Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
November 11 2009 12:17 GMT
#177
Thanks for replying so quickly I'll get thugzta online tomorrow all day so just message X-Aki on iccup when you're on.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
November 12 2009 01:29 GMT
#178

First of all sorry guys about the tourney slowing down but it is supposed to be pretty laid back because it is during exam and school times and people will be delayed in trying to get their games done. Be patient and just try to get your games done ASAP when it is convenient for you and your opponent. I will still be away for another week or so without internet but when I am back PureKnight, myself and the others will get this competition well underway!

Regarding replays - some I have already uploaded on binarybeast so you can access them there.

On November 10 2009 19:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Are people forgetting random players lose any early game advantage they may have by having to be competent in all 9 MUs?!

I mean seriously, scout early, play safe and learn more than just one build..

You'd think everyone has become so regimented by build orders they don't know how to actually play BW anymore but rather only execute build orders they've seen pros do.

Massive =/


Sure but that is how the game is played now, people who aren't following these build orders because they have dedicated time and practice to learning and perfecting them will then lose to someone who does pull them off because they lack creativity.

The point is that before the match the random guy knows what his opponent is using so there is no counter-argument of 'the R has to practice all the MUs', he knows his opponent and just has to be confident with all 3 races - he can use it to get an early or late game advantage no doubt and is akin to an unbalanced map in favour of whatever race he has in my eyes. You claim that the non-random player will be using pre-designed pro build orders and so is inflexible but like I said the random player can also be doing something similar and by forcing the non-random to deviate from the build he uses simply by the merit of choosing random he gains in my eyes an advantage. In an idealised example, the R guy learns 3 pro BOs to counter whichever race he gets, the opponent has to use one safe BO, so the R can tailor the build however he wants (based on a normal pro one or not) to be in the lead. Sure the other guy can scout early but that doesn't really even the playing field as I see it.

Also regarding people just memorising builds, sure it would be great if it was still back in the days of boxer and we could be creative and use some fancy micro and win with a generic opening but it's like with any sport once it goes pro - your backyard footy rules aren't going to cut it in a professional era where people can copy pros. and practice for that. If we wanted a tourney for cute moves and tricky cheese we'd use weird maps and make everyone use random.

Not sure if I'm clear here I am in a bit of a rush, but I don't see why you MUST use random - isn't it just as easy to roll a dice or flip a coin to pick a race before the game? I guess I would allow you to just rock up and choose a race before the day if it seems fair to everyone. That way you are keeping your random race, your opponent isn't forced into using a safe BO they just have to practice against all 3 races as does the "R" user (practice using all 3 vs 1 race) and it seems pretty fair to me. Both of you make sacrifices and end up on even terms as far as I can tell. Note that this isn't allowed for everyone, because then it defeats the purpose as people can't practice - just for people who identified themselves as 'random' users. Thoughts?

PureKnight I might tell you my mobile number if you get free texts or something you can update me or we can talk about stuff :3 Cheers.

Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
potchip
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia260 Posts
November 12 2009 02:02 GMT
#179
First of all, thanks for organising this del. It takes effort and time to sustain an event and I think more appreciation is required from the participants.

On the topic of radomness, I will only comment that this is indeed the age of BOs, and IMO not necessarily a good thing for SC.

Evidence? Every day, you see a [H] post on strats forume where someone comes in, posts a replay and asks in the effect of 'what is wrong with my BO how can I adjust to my opponent's BO'. Yes BO is perhaps the easiest thing to change and learn, but BO is just a word and it also depends on all the little tiny bits for it to click. And you'd typically get the same response in the strategy forums: lol work on your macro. IMHO this is totally the wrong approach and let me pull stats out of my arse by claiming, 90% of the time people at a low level lose not because of BOs. And 50% of people using BOs don't have necessarily the ability to execute it as a progamer and expolit the weakness of a countered BO.

This is also evident in your argument in the post above. Basically everything in 4th paragraph is a theory based on the following assumptions:
1. BO loss cannot be overcome
2. Random user knows as much about the MU of single race users in each of their respective matchups (shouldn't them be rewarded for that knowledge then?)
3. People copying pro BOs are as good as the pros themselves (LOL)

I do not believe any of the above is true or proven to be true.

I also acknowledge some matchups vs R can be difficult, eg P vs RZ. But as a T/R I'd just like to say SUCK IT UP PROTOSS USERS
SilentNoodle
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia290 Posts
November 12 2009 02:05 GMT
#180
what if the player goes random and just tells you what race they got o_o
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